Global Warming hits the Eastcoast !

[Don Klipstein]

<snip>

"It's" in the case above is a contraction of "it has".

When I saw Keith's response, I had my hopes up that he was
misinterpreting that. But it was the second usage, in "Never gives up
it's dead" where I messed up and should have typed "its".

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])

 

[Tom Quackenbush]

Tom Quackenbush wrote:

When I saw Keith's response, I had my hopes up that he was
misinterpreting that. But it was the second usage, in "Never gives up
it's dead" where I messed up and should have typed "its".

Oops.

<Emily Litella>

Oh, that's very different.... Never mind.

<\Emily Litella>

R,
Tom Q.

 

[Ken Smith]

[first verse]
"The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead

^ big

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

The SUN is getting warmer. We feel that. Mt. St. Helens dumps 100's of tons
of S02 into the air each year - far exceeding cars and power plants of the region.

The little one in the Philippines cooled the earth by 1 degree by dumping more
crap into the air than all trucks, cars, motorcycles and ... of all time. Far worse
than many thought at the time - but remember it was a colder year and the stars were
colored.....

The oilfields that burned in IRAQ and the triangle area of Kuwait put black soot
around the world.

The UK was a very dusty place to live in for many years. Now cleaner, how about more.

I had a very interesting experience the last time I emigrated from
Minnesota to California - when I was coming down from the high desert, I
crested the rise, and all I saw was blue sky! I was flabbergasted! Just
about 15 or 20 years ago, the whole sky over the LA basin was brown.

People bitch about harsh smog regs, but somebody's doing something right!

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

The world we have known is history. A mere 1 degree Fahrenheit global
average warming is already raising sea levels, strengthening
hurricanes, disrupting ecosystems, threatening parks and protected
areas, causing droughts and heat waves, melting the Arctic and glaciers
everywhere and killing tens of thousands of people a year.

Yet there are several more degrees coming in our grandchildren's
lifetimes.

OK, the sky is falling and we're all going to die.

So, now what? Put everybody in shackles? Ban human activity of any kind?

The problem with the fanatics is that all of their "solutions" involve:
A: The assumption that they're not weinerheads
B: The use of coercion to advance their agenda.

**** that. The only thing that makes life worth living is Freedom. I think
that pretty much no matter what people do, Mother Earth will survive.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich Grise, PLainclothes Hippie]

Sno-o-o-o-o-ort !-)

...Jim Thompson

Well, ladies and germs, it's the end of civilization as we know it - I've
actually laughed at the same John Larkin joke as Jim Thompson snorted at.
;-P

Cheers!
Rich
--
Elect Me President in 2008! I will:
A. Fire the IRS, and abolish the income tax
B. Legalize drugs
C. Stand down all military actions by the US that don't involve actual
military aggression against US territory
D. Declare World Peace I.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

I had a very interesting experience the last time I emigrated from
Minnesota to California - when I was coming down from the high desert, I
crested the rise, and all I saw was blue sky! I was flabbergasted! Just
about 15 or 20 years ago, the whole sky over the LA basin was brown.

People bitch about harsh smog regs, but somebody's doing something right!

Cheers!
Rich

The air in major (and not so major) Chinese cities is barely
breathable these days.

Clean up the CA automotive emissions and export half of the industry
and things are bound to start looking up, environmentally speaking.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Rich Grise, PLainclothes Hippie]

We are on an run away train into uncharted waters.

--

Sliding down the razor blade of life!

--
Elect Me President in 2008! I will:
A. Fire the IRS, and abolish the income tax
B. Legalize drugs
C. Stand down all military actions by the US that don't involve actual
military aggression against US territory
D. Declare World Peace I.

 

[Jim Thompson]

The air in major (and not so major) Chinese cities is barely
breathable these days.

Clean up the CA automotive emissions and export half of the industry
and things are bound to start looking up, environmentally speaking.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I presume you meant by CA = Canada ??

Because CA = California has the most stringent smog laws in the world.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Rich Grise]

I presume you meant by CA = Canada ??

Because CA = California has the most stringent smog laws in the world.

...Jim Thompson

And, possibly interestingly, they don't seem to have a terribly adverse
effect on car sales.

And it _is_ nice to see blue sky when you go outside.

Then again, it's the rainy season in So.Cal, so the air gets pretty much
washed about this time of year.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

My point is that they *have* tightened auto emission standards in
Californie, so things are now noticably better than when I lived
there, air-wise. Do any other jurisdictions have the vapor suckers on
gas pumps?

And, possibly interestingly, they don't seem to have a terribly adverse
effect on car sales.

Like there's an alternative, eh?

And it _is_ nice to see blue sky when you go outside.

Then again, it's the rainy season in So.Cal, so the air gets pretty much
washed about this time of year.

Cheers!
Rich

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Jim Thompson]

My point is that they *have* tightened auto emission standards in
Californie, so things are now noticably better than when I lived
there, air-wise. Do any other jurisdictions have the vapor suckers on
gas pumps?

Some AZ stations do, though it's not mandatory yet.

Like there's an alternative, eh?

Sales are so high in CA that they only sell at list... sometimes
above.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

We MAY get rain tonight... first time in almost 5 months... so I can
celebrate my un-birthday on the patio at midnight ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Don Klipstein]

Do any other jurisdictions have the vapor suckers on gas pumps?

I know the greater Philadelphia metro area, at least on the Pennsylvania
side of the Delaware River, has them. I don't know whether or not this is
statewide. I have heard of antipollution laws covering only parts of
Pennsylvania before.

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])

 

[Keith Williams]

Which was caused by the internal combustion engine..the Little Ice
Age or the subsequent Medieval Warm?

Of course not. It was cause by.....wait for it......... George
Bush! ...but you knew that.

 

[Keith Williams]

My point is that they *have* tightened auto emission standards in
Californie, so things are now noticably better than when I lived
there, air-wise. Do any other jurisdictions have the vapor suckers on
gas pumps?

NY has had them quite a while. VT has had them for perhaps five
years and the sky is still gray all winter.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

NY has had them quite a while. VT has had them for perhaps five
years and the sky is still gray all winter.

In LA it was literally brown.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

[Jim Thompson]

In LA it was literally brown.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I don't think "gray all winter" has anything to do with smog ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Todd Rich]

It happens. I go through that a lot myself. Sorry about the misspelling.

It is almost 2 weeks now. Should I even bother keeping up with this
thread? Real life doesn't seem to stop you from keeping up with other
threads. 97 in the last 12 days.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F61C419BC

(snip rest)

 

[Dave Hinz]

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:06:44 -0500, the renowned Keith Williams

In LA it was literally brown.

Yes, and you could taste the pollution in the air, while in an airplane,
as you approached LAX. That was, let's see...1982. Brown, absolutely.

 

[Richard Henry]

In LA it was literally brown.

And I could taste it - or maybe it was the chlorine from all the swimming
pools.

I was in Southern California almost 2 years before I drove into San Fernando
Valley from Oxnard one day and realized that there were snow-capped
mountains just outside the city.