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[Frank Olson]

Was it the "Good moral character" thing that you based your opinion
on? ;-))

Not so much that (although I'm not ruling it out entirely). He's had no
recent experience "in the trade" and the further he gets from 1999 (and
the last time he might have been able to prove he actually *worked* in
it) means his eligibility becomes more questionable. The real truth is
that until he actually "goes through the steps" (starts the process to
become certified), it all remains in the realm of "speculation" (both on
his side and ours), doesn't it?

 

[Norm Mugford]

489.511(4)(a) "Good moral character" means a personal history of honesty,
fairness, and respect for the rights of others and for laws of this
state and nation.

Sorry Mr. BAss! One Google search and it's all over!
"Honesty, fairness and respect for the rights of others".

Are you honest?..............the BBB doesn't think so.
Are you fair?...............I don't think so, Mr. BAss.
Do you respect the rights of others.......................
I'll let the history of ASA speak for itself...............

489.511(4)(b) The board may determine that an individual applying for
certification is ineligible to take the examination for failure to
satisfy the requirement of good moral character only if:

1. There is a substantial connection between the lack of good moral
character of the individual and the professional responsibilities of a
certified contractor; and

2. The finding by the board of lack of good moral character is
supported by clear and convincing evidence.

Opps!....What's that about a poor business history with the BBB......
How many complaints are you up to now, Mr. BAss?

It's clear and convincing to me Mr. BAss.......

Norm Mugford

 

[Robert L Bass]

489.511(4)(a) "Good moral character" means a personal history of honesty,

fairness, and respect for the rights of others and for laws of this
state and nation.

I guess that leaves you out.

Sorry Mr. BAss! One Google search and it's all over!
"Honesty, fairness and respect for the rights of others".

Are you honest?..............the BBB doesn't think so.

Phoney complaints filed by your pals are of no consequence.

Are you fair?...............I don't think so, Mr. BAss.

No one cares what you think.

Do you respect the rights of others.......................
I'll let the history of ASA speak for itself...............

Your own posts in this newsgroup would make for a very interesting discussion before the rest of the board (you'd have to sit that
one out). Can you imagine you trying to uese quotes of me arguing with these morons as "evidence"? Next I display a printout of
every one of the personal attacks you've levied against me in the newsgroup. Then I display a printout of these same jerks (your
pals) gloating and "praying" for my death when they learned I have cancer.

Good moral character? You are sadly lacking there, pal.

It's clear and convincing to me Mr. BAss.......

Ah, but due to your provable, lengthy history of personal attacks against me, you'd have to recuse yourself or face charges
yourself.

Norm Mugford

When I showed the state investigator the things which you wrote about me in a public forum, he was aghast. Any normal person would
be. The problem is you get enough encouragement from a few lowlifes here that you have misled yourself into believeing you can say
anything you like in public about another tradesman, despite your position on the ECLB. You are wrong, sir.

Count yourself fortunate that I'm not litigatious and that I have no interest in obtaining a license. If I did, I'd bring up every
one of your childish, public indiscretions before the rest of the board, not to mention the AG.

 

[Frank Olson]

I keep hearing this from your pals at CHA, you have yet to acknowledge
the FACT that non-customers can not file complaints.

Actually. You're wrong there, Graham. There are certain circumstances
in which a "non-customer" *can* file a complaint against a company (be
it "member" or "non-member").

The BBB will not post phony complaints,

No. They won't. They, in fact, don't post the actual complaints at all.
They're divided into several distinct categories (all of which are
listed on Bass' BBB record). More-over, they will only provide the
details of the complaints to the authorized representatives of the
company being complained against. This includes the individual's name,
address, and purchase details. Most people who actually take the time
to file a complaint with the BBB have fairly detailed records that
include contact dates, the names of the individual(s) they talked to and
the nature of their response.

they investigate each one

Yes, they do.

 

[Frank Olson]

If that's true than I mis-read the rules. I looked into them when
some folks directly or indirectly accused me (and you were in the
group too) or falsely filing complaints against Robert Bass. I have
NEVER filed a BBB complaint in my life, much less about RLB whom I
have never dealt with in business.

You don't have to buy something from a company to complain about it's
service. That being said, the BBB *will* investigate every complaint,
and forward the details of said complaint to the company under
investigation. They are given every opportunity to respond *before* the
file is closed with a "no response" or a "failed to respond" comment.
They do, after all, have to ensure the process remains as transparent as
possible to both parties in the complaint.

You are absolutely right. I did not mean to imply the complaints
themselves are available for review.






Yes. I was merely trying to make sure that Mr. Bass was not accusing
me of doing harm to his business by making false complaints.

He has stated on numerous occasions that we have filed false complaints.
Fortunately his lies are not supported by the BBB complaint process.

The whole implication that I did such a thing is offensive, and
bordering on libelous.

Bass has actually "crossed the border" on several occasions.
Considering his own well documented history on Usenet, I wouldn't give
anything he says much credence.

And that's good.

Yes, it is.

 

[Bob Worthy]

I was thinking along those lines and also of a question that appears on the
license application itself. "Have you ever practiced electrical or alarm
contracting, in the state of Florida, or any other jurisdiction, illegally?"
(without a license). Didn't he practice up north without a license for some
time? He wouldn't lie about this, he would have to answer "yes".

 

[Don]

The problem is you get enough encouragement from a few lowlifes here that
you have misled yourself into believeing you can say

anything you like in public about another tradesman,

who is the other tradesman you are refering to?