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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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" Petrol giant Shell has suspended chip-and-pin payments in 600 UK petrol
stations after more than £1m was siphoned out of customers' accounts
"..............

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4980190.stm

Never could work out how they thought it would be secure.

Graham
 
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Ian Stirling

Jan 1, 1970
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Pooh Bear said:
" Petrol giant Shell has suspended chip-and-pin payments in 600 UK petrol
stations after more than ?1m was siphoned out of customers' accounts
"..............

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4980190.stm

Never could work out how they thought it would be secure.

_properly_ implemented, it could be secure.
As could much.
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Ian said:
_properly_ implemented, it could be secure.
As could much.

The words piss-up and brewery come to mind.....

Graham
 
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Nial Stewart

Jan 1, 1970
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Pooh Bear said:
" Petrol giant Shell has suspended chip-and-pin payments in 600 UK petrol
stations after more than £1m was siphoned out of customers' accounts
"..............
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4980190.stm
Never could work out how they thought it would be secure.


Fills you full of confidence in ID cards doesn't it :-(



Nial.
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Poopie Pommy SHITHEAD Narcissist Bear"

" Petrol giant Shell has suspended chip-and-pin payments in 600 UK petrol
stations .....


** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????


Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????








.......... Phil
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
"Poopie Pommy SHITHEAD Narcissist Bear"


** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????

Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????

......... Phil

" Fears are growing that chip-and-pin credit card technology, which is designed
to cut plastic theft, is not as safe as we have been led to believe by card
companies.

The oil company Shell has suspended use of the technology in 600 of its petrol
stations after more than £1m was stolen from customers’ accounts by bogus
engineers who fitted chip-and-pin keypads with memory chips that logged
customers’ cards numbers and pin codes.

Eight people have been arrested in connection with the fraud, which is being
investigated by the Metropolitan Police cheque and plastic crime unit, and those
affected should be reimbursed by their banks.

However, the success of the fraud has raised fears that increasingly
sophisticated scams will be used to target consumers using the new cards.

The Association of Payment Clearing Services (Apacs) is playing down the gravity
of the incident, although it admits that the technology has failed in this
instance....................... "

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9558-2170865,00.html

Graham
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Poopie Pommy SHITHEAD Narcissist **** Bear"

" Petrol giant Shell has suspended chip-and-pin payments in 600 UK petrol
stations .....


** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????

** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????


Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????








.......... Phil
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
"Poopie Pommy SHITHEAD Narcissist **** Bear"


** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????

** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????

Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????

Have you become so retarded that you can't see this is a technology issue
related to the use of electronics ?

Graham
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Poopie Pommy SHITHEAD Narcissist **** Bear"
" Petrol giant Shell has suspended chip-and-pin payments in 600 UK petrol
stations .....

** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????

Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????

Have you become so retarded that you can't see this is a technology issue
related to the use of electronics ?


** So is the FUCKING H-BOMB !!!!

YOU ADHD FUCKED BRAIN DEAD ASS !!!!



The matter is simply another everyday business / legal issue QUITE unrelated
to the discipline of electronics design.



For the information of all:

Poopie Bear = one Graham Stevenson.

A fat, stupid, middle aged, unemployed, ex factory hack wanna-be control
freak.

IOW:

A waste of space, usenet TROLL.





........ Phil
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
The matter is simply another everyday business / legal issue QUITE unrelated
to the discipline of electronics design.

You didn't read anything on the links then Mr Toaster Repair Man ? Not about the
'skimming chips' for example ?

Graham
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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For the information of all:


Poopie Bear = one Graham Stevenson.

A fat, stupid, middle aged, unemployed, ex factory hack wanna-be & control
freak.


IOW:

Another waste of space, PITA usenet TROLL.





........ Phil
 
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Pooh Bear

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil said:
For the information of all:

Phil Allison is a piece of crap !

Does anyone actually pay any attention to his ridiculous tirades ?

Graham
 
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Sandbox Moderator

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil Allison is a piece of crap !

Does anyone actually pay any attention to his ridiculous tirades ?

Graham

Only the trollfeeders.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????


Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????

I'd suspect it's actually WHAT.

But I could be wrong.

John

Oh, I see you're still having trouble with that ? key sticking.
Drooling on keyboards can do that.
 
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Jim Backus

Jan 1, 1970
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_properly_ implemented, it could be secure.
As could much.

I thought the problem was the 'engineers' chipping the readers and
stealing the information. Chip and Pin could be super secure, but
somewhere the data is non-secure, such as when the user enters their
pin number. The thieve's motto may be "If you can't break into the
safe quickly, steal the safe and work on it at your leisure".

With chip and pin showing a vulnerability within a year of widespread
use, who thinks the UK's ID scheme will be secure?
 
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Electric dabbler

Jan 1, 1970
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Phil Allison said:
"Poopie Pommy SHITHEAD Narcissist **** Bear"




** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????

** Huh ???????????????????????????????????????????


Is this a BLATANT fucking TROLL or WHAT ??????
Sorry mate you are one FUCKING MORON - why flame this guy just ignore it if
it bothers you.
or is it that it did not happen in the big old US of A it didn't happen -
just grow up!

Philip
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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Electric said:
Sorry mate you are one FUCKING MORON - why flame this guy just ignore it if
it bothers you.
or is it that it did not happen in the big old US of A it didn't happen -
just grow up!

Philip


He's in Oz, not the US, thank you!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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Electric dabbler

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael A. Terrell said:
He's in Oz, not the US, thank you!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Oops just alienated the wrong continent.!
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Oops just alienated the wrong continent.!

Is Oz actually a continent, or is it incontinent?

But more important - I'm surprised nobody has asked - is what the hell
does chip-and-pin mean?

John
 
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