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Which phase is my electrik socket on?

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Cameo

Jan 1, 1970
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Before buying a set of HomePlug powerline ethernet adapters, I'd like to
know if the 120 V sockets I plan to use are on the same phase or not. Is
there any easy (and inexpensive) way to figure that out? Those adapters
don't really work across different phases. I live in the US.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Before buying a set of HomePlug powerline ethernet adapters, I'd like to
know if the 120 V sockets I plan to use are on the same phase or not. Is
there any easy (and inexpensive) way to figure that out? Those adapters
don't really work across different phases. I live in the US.

Find which circuits they're on. If they are on the same side of the
breaker box and there is an odd number of breakers between them (not
the numbers, but the spaces) they will likely be on the same leg. If
they're on the opposite side, count evens. This isn't 100% assured,
but it should work. A peek inside will tell you for sure.
 
J

James Sweet

Jan 1, 1970
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Cameo said:
Before buying a set of HomePlug powerline ethernet adapters, I'd like to
know if the 120 V sockets I plan to use are on the same phase or not. Is
there any easy (and inexpensive) way to figure that out? Those adapters
don't really work across different phases. I live in the US.


Find out what breaker the receptacles are on and then look at where
those are plugged in. They're interleaved with every other breaker down
the row being on the same bus. If they're on opposite sides you can
usually swap two side by side breakers to get the one you're interested
in on the side you want it.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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The X-10 folks sell a bridge you can put across the phases that will
pass the high frequency PLC signals across to the other phase. It is
basically just a capacitor but it is in a U/L listed package.


Easiest solution, but get an electrician to put it in. You only need
one to cross-communicate the entire buss.
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
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Cameo said:
Before buying a set of HomePlug powerline ethernet adapters, I'd like to
know if the 120 V sockets I plan to use are on the same phase or not. Is
there any easy (and inexpensive) way to figure that out? Those adapters
don't really work across different phases. I live in the US.

pull a fuse or switch a breaker and test each outlet, you will then know
which ones are on the same circuit.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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pull a fuse or switch a breaker and test each outlet, you will then know
which ones are on the same circuit.

That doesn't tell you which side of the center tap they're on. The
two "hots" are interleaved down each side of the panel, so an odd
number between will be on the same "side" of the transformer.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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That doesn't tell you which side of the center tap they're on. The
two "hots" are interleaved down each side of the panel, so an odd
number between will be on the same "side" of the transformer.


With the crossover cap, one does not even need to make a determination.
A much faster solution.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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With the crossover cap, one does not even need to make a determination.
A much faster solution.

That doesn't answer the question asked, AlwaysWrong. Doesn't always
work, either.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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That doesn't answer the question asked, AlwaysWrong. Doesn't always
work, either.


Always works if the network devices comply with the spec. Yes, there is
one.

You are always an idiot.
 
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Rich.

Jan 1, 1970
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James Sweet said:
the row being on the same bus. If they're on opposite sides you can
usually swap two side by side breakers to get the one you're interested in
on the side you want it.

Not if the breakers go to a 3-wire. The black and red of a 3-wire have to
remain on opposite phases or you risk burning up the neutral and starting an
electrical fire.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Not if the breakers go to a 3-wire. The black and red of a 3-wire have to
remain on opposite phases or you risk burning up the neutral and starting an
electrical fire.


I thought that you UK guys all had a single phase 240 volt feed.
You guys use a center tapped transformer as well?
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Always works if the network devices comply with the spec. Yes, there is
one.

AlwaysWrong is as always, wrong.
You are always an idiot.

You are a liar as well as being always wrong, AlwaysWrong. Christian,
my ass.
 
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Cameo

Jan 1, 1970
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F Murtz said:
pull a fuse or switch a breaker and test each outlet, you will then
know which ones are on the same circuit.

I already know they are NOT on the same fused circuit. I just don't know
if they are still on the same phase or not.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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You are a liar as well as being always wrong, AlwaysWrong. Christian,
my ass.


Sorry, but it is not Christian to "Christian your ass". Besides, I do
not possess the inhuman desires that a sub-human twit like you, K-Tard
the Retard does.
 
C

Cameo

Jan 1, 1970
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Archimedes' Lever said:
Always works if the network devices comply with the spec. Yes, there
is
one.

You are always an idiot.

Oh come on guys, I didn't post my question to start a name calling
thread. Can't we just get along?
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry, but it is not Christian to "Christian your ass".

You are an ass, and *claim* to be a Christian ('tis very funny). Ok
if you prefer - Christian, your ass.
Besides, I do not possess the inhuman desires that a sub-human twit like you, K-Tard
the Retard does.

Of course you do, since you're not human, DimBulb. Once again,
AlwaysWrong proves he's always wrong.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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I already know they are NOT on the same fused circuit. I just don't know
if they are still on the same phase or not.


One test would be to simply hook 'em up and see if they "talk" to each
other. Doesn't get much more simple than that.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh come on guys, I didn't post my question to start a name calling
thread. Can't we just get along?


That is the K-Tard's standard Modus Operandi. He issues attacks on me
at every turn. All you need to do is watch,. He'll be back with more, I
assure you. He is too goddamned immature to restrain himself. That is
also why his palms are so hairy. and his prick is loaded up with Herpes
sores.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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That is the K-Tard's standard Modus Operandi. He issues attacks on me
at every turn.

Oh, you poor baby, DimBulb.
All you need to do is watch,.

Now DimBulb will be happy. His mommy's hamper is his real joy,
though.
He'll be back with more, I
assure you. He is too goddamned immature to restrain himself. That is
also why his palms are so hairy. and his prick is loaded up with Herpes
sores.

AlwaysWrong is of course, wrong. He's just always, wrong.
 
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