Vinyl Window / Slider Contact Placement

[Joe Nortman]

If anyone in this group can help me I would apprecaite it. I have vinyl
windows and a vinyl slider in my home. I am about to put up the window and
door contacts for a security system but need some advice.

Now, on vinyl windows I am assuming that I can't screw in the contacts.
They would ruin the windows and I would be out of luck. However, is it
acceptable to use some sort of 3M double contact tape to affix say the
transmiter to the window frame (Which is also vinyl) and then use the same
tape to affix the magnet to the actual window that is sliding back and
forth?

I have seen the type of wireless contacts that you can drill into a frame
and then the magnet piece is drilled into the door. I will use this type on
my front door which is wood but am I mising something here on vinyl windows?
Thanks for any input.

Joe

 

[Robo]

If anyone in this group can help me I would apprecaite it. I have vinyl
windows and a vinyl slider in my home. I am about to put up the window
and door contacts for a security system but need some advice.

Now, on vinyl windows I am assuming that I can't screw in the contacts.
They would ruin the windows and I would be out of luck. However, is it
acceptable to use some sort of 3M double contact tape to affix say the
transmiter to the window frame (Which is also vinyl) and then use the same
tape to affix the magnet to the actual window that is sliding back and
forth?

I have seen the type of wireless contacts that you can drill into a frame
and then the magnet piece is drilled into the door. I will use this type
on my front door which is wood but am I mising something here on vinyl
windows? Thanks for any input.

Joe

I'd use screws for the xmitter.
for the mag thats the idea. then a little gleu to hold the mag.
or use external contacts and you remote the xmitter a small distance if
easier.

 

[Joe Nortman]

Heh, thanks. I appreciate it.

Joe

I'd use screws for the xmitter.
for the mag thats the idea. then a little gleu to hold the mag.
or use external contacts and you remote the xmitter a small distance if
easier.

 

[Robo]

I clean the spot w alcohol wipe then stick mag to clean dry spot. A bead of
bathroom silicone sealer comes in colors or clear to hold it if the double
stick gives out in 6 months.

 

[Crash Gordon]

The recessed xmitters have less range.
The 3M tape that comes with the contacts works great if you clean the
surface with alcohol first. I have some that haven't moved a speck in 20
years...and still nearly impossible to remove. If you don't clean first,
they may fall off next week though - especially on vinyl.


| Heh, thanks. I appreciate it.
|
| Joe
|
| | >
| > | >> If anyone in this group can help me I would apprecaite it. I have
vinyl
| >> windows and a vinyl slider in my home. I am about to put up the window
| >> and door contacts for a security system but need some advice.
| >>
| >> Now, on vinyl windows I am assuming that I can't screw in the contacts.
| >> They would ruin the windows and I would be out of luck. However, is it
| >> acceptable to use some sort of 3M double contact tape to affix say the
| >> transmiter to the window frame (Which is also vinyl) and then use the
| >> same tape to affix the magnet to the actual window that is sliding back
| >> and forth?
| >>
| >> I have seen the type of wireless contacts that you can drill into a
frame
| >> and then the magnet piece is drilled into the door. I will use this
type
| >> on my front door which is wood but am I mising something here on vinyl
| >> windows? Thanks for any input.
| >>
| >> Joe
| >
| > I'd use screws for the xmitter.
| > for the mag thats the idea. then a little gleu to hold the mag.
| > or use external contacts and you remote the xmitter a small distance if
| > easier.
| >
|
|

 

[Joe Nortman]

Thanks guys. One more question if any of you have an idea. I have a garage
that I would like to setup with a wired smoke detector/heat detector. The
issue I think is that my garage can get really hot in the summer. Sometimes
it's a hundred degrees out here and the garage can get blistering. What
would be some of your suggestions for types of wired smoke/heat
detectors...or maybe something else I haven't thougt of? I have a DSC 832
system.

 

[Bob Worthy]

I wouldn't recommend smokes in a garage. Dust, dirt, greasey residue,
spiders, ants etc. Use a 195* heat detector(s). Will work just fine.

 

[Crash Gordon]

Yep!



|I wouldn't recommend smokes in a garage. Dust, dirt, greasey residue,
| spiders, ants etc. Use a 195* heat detector(s). Will work just fine.
|
| | > Thanks guys. One more question if any of you have an idea. I have a
| garage
| > that I would like to setup with a wired smoke detector/heat detector.
The
| > issue I think is that my garage can get really hot in the summer.
| Sometimes
| > it's a hundred degrees out here and the garage can get blistering. What
| > would be some of your suggestions for types of wired smoke/heat
| > detectors...or maybe something else I haven't thougt of? I have a DSC
832
| > system.
| >
| > | > > The recessed xmitters have less range.
| > > The 3M tape that comes with the contacts works great if you clean the
| > > surface with alcohol first. I have some that haven't moved a speck in
20
| > > years...and still nearly impossible to remove. If you don't clean
first,
| > > they may fall off next week though - especially on vinyl.
| > >
| > >
| > > | > > | Heh, thanks. I appreciate it.
| > > |
| > > | Joe
| > > |
| > > | | > > | >
| > > | > | > > | >> If anyone in this group can help me I would apprecaite it. I
have
| > > vinyl
| > > | >> windows and a vinyl slider in my home. I am about to put up the
| > > window
| > > | >> and door contacts for a security system but need some advice.
| > > | >>
| > > | >> Now, on vinyl windows I am assuming that I can't screw in the
| > > contacts.
| > > | >> They would ruin the windows and I would be out of luck. However,
| is
| > > it
| > > | >> acceptable to use some sort of 3M double contact tape to affix
say
| > > the
| > > | >> transmiter to the window frame (Which is also vinyl) and then use
| the
| > > | >> same tape to affix the magnet to the actual window that is
sliding
| > > back
| > > | >> and forth?
| > > | >>
| > > | >> I have seen the type of wireless contacts that you can drill into
a
| > > frame
| > > | >> and then the magnet piece is drilled into the door. I will use
| this
| > > type
| > > | >> on my front door which is wood but am I mising something here on
| > > vinyl
| > > | >> windows? Thanks for any input.
| > > | >>
| > > | >> Joe
| > > | >
| > > | > I'd use screws for the xmitter.
| > > | > for the mag thats the idea. then a little gleu to hold the mag.
| > > | > or use external contacts and you remote the xmitter a small
distance
| > > if
| > > | > easier.
| > > | >
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Robo]

I wouldn't recommend smokes in a garage. Dust, dirt, greasey residue,
spiders, ants etc. Use a 195* heat detector(s). Will work just fine.

Exactomundo. Rate of rise detector would trip faster than a fixed temp heat
detector. ROR determine a fire by how fast the temp rises in a certain
length of time. Use combo detector with rate of rise and fixed temp for the
best of both worlds.

 

[Bob La Londe]

If anyone in this group can help me I would apprecaite it. I have vinyl
windows and a vinyl slider in my home. I am about to put up the window
and door contacts for a security system but need some advice.

Now, on vinyl windows I am assuming that I can't screw in the contacts.
They would ruin the windows and I would be out of luck. However, is it
acceptable to use some sort of 3M double contact tape to affix say the
transmiter to the window frame (Which is also vinyl) and then use the same
tape to affix the magnet to the actual window that is sliding back and
forth?

I have seen the type of wireless contacts that you can drill into a frame
and then the magnet piece is drilled into the door. I will use this type
on my front door which is wood but am I mising something here on vinyl
windows? Thanks for any input.

Joe

Depending on construction I usually use a mini flange contact like the GRI
50F12 in conjunction with a transmitter. I drill a small hole in the
drywall next to the window at the top, then another small hole through the
top of the window frame right next to the hole in the drywall. I'll fish
the wire leads on the contact through the holes, and mount the transmistter
over the hole in the drywall. Then its a simple matter of marking the frame
and window to align the magnet on the top of the window. Makes for a very
neat looking installation, and by putting my holes at the top there is no
chance of water damage to the wall from rain water filling the window track.
Doesn't always work though if the customer has blinds installed against the
window inside the opening. On the other hand if blinds are mounted out from
the window then they don't even see the transmitter when the blinds are
open.