usenet

[F Murtz]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about, I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie
service each time long wait.
even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

 

[Art Vanderlay]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about, I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie
service each time long wait.
even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

just go to eternal.september.org and open a free account. They offer a
usenet server service that updates quickly and works with no hassles.
I have been using them for some time now since my isp stopped doing
usenet (nobody there knew what it was either!).

regards, Art

 

[Con]

Pigpong usenet seems to be hit and miss. When I remember to check for new
messages here, some times the server does not respond, other times it does.
Tried whining to pigpong and they don't seem to know anything about
newsgroups. Probably need some old farts like me working for them to know
what it is rather than those young social media types.
Con

 

[F Murtz]

just go to eternal.september.org and open a free account. They offer a
usenet server service that updates quickly and works with no hassles.
I have been using them for some time now since my isp stopped doing
usenet (nobody there knew what it was either!).

regards, Art

I am using eternal-september but I want access to bigpongs server (it
allows binaries)

 

[jonz]

just go to eternal.september.org and open a free account. They offer a
usenet server service that updates quickly and works with no hassles.
I have been using them for some time now since my isp stopped doing
usenet (nobody there knew what it was either!).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Have been using E/S for a couple of years. Apart from the occasional
server overload (Apparent) is good value

 

[Feral]

just go to eternal.september.org and open a free account. They offer a
usenet server service that updates quickly and works with no hassles.
I have been using them for some time now since my isp stopped doing
usenet (nobody there knew what it was either!).

regards, Art

I had trouble with "eternal-september" about a week ago, so I shifted to
their "Reader80.eternal-september" - port 80. Working well and didn't
need to re-register.

--
Take Care. ~~
Feral Al ( @..@)
(\-- Ü--/)
((.>__oo__<.))
^^^ % ^^^

 

[Jacko]

Working fine here in Maryborough Qld.
Jacko


"F Murtz" wrote in message
Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about, I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie
service each time long wait.
even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

 

[D Walford]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about, I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie
service each time long wait.
even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

Seems that very few people know what usenet is including ISP's that have
a news server, I've had the same problem getting help when there has
been an outage.
For various reason we use 2 ISP's, Internode and TPG and they both have
access to newservers that allow binaries.


Daryl

 

[jonz]

I had trouble with "eternal-september" about a week ago, so I shifted to
their "Reader80.eternal-september" - port 80. Working well and didn't
need to re-register.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Thnx for the heads up ;-)

 

[John McKenzie]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.

Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?

It's been on the blink for bloody years and years. It was one of the
reasons (and believe me I had a few reasons I had to go with them at
all, since I lived 'off the grid' (socially, not geographically) and
didn't even have a bank account for close to a decade, and they were one
of the few that would go with billing and paying by the month)

It wouldn't work for cable customers at all but would for adsl and every
time I rang them about it they would say either 'it's working' (despite
big threads on whirlpool that it wasn't) or worse still they'd say 'this
is the tech advice line, this is only for where you ring up if you can't
configure your modem or something' or other nonsense - in other words
there isn't actually any real process (or wasn't back then not too many
years ago) to report problems that are clearly at THEIR end (like the
fact that any time a shaped account was slowed, it'd regularly
experience server time outs and not let you download your emails if
there was more than about 5-6 (and I was getting about 50-100 per day)
as it'd take too long and get a time out. Why the **** they slowed the
email side of things I'll never know, since it's direct to bigpond, no
need for bandwith outside of there. Occasionally you'd get honest people
on the tech line and they'd say 'look we are aware of the issue, we keep
telling them, but they mumble mumble mumble (reading between the lines
they were saying 'we are reporting it but nobody gives a **** and has no
plans or capability to fix it).

A good friend of mine is upper management at telstra and he has told me
that when Sol came in, he was tasked with getting everyone onto the new
billing scheme. Much of the stuff he did completely fucked everything
else about the service, but he and his crew just kept using the wanker
analogy 'look if you have a race car, even if it crosses the finish line
first, upside down, on its roof and on fire, you have done the job'. I
just wish someone had told them 'yes and then you move on and we have to
rebuild a race car, a driver has either died or will spend the next
decade getting skin grafts and in enormous pain, and the team will go
bankrupt, but 'hey' we won the race right?

And that's about the size of it. He genuinely expects it could take till
post 2020 before it is fully sorted, so much harm and butchery was done.

I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about, I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie
service each time long wait.
even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

I'm not going to say it is perfect, but a mate and myself (at separate
locations) both went to TPG adsl. I even went to the trouble of now
having both a bank account AND a credit card (the one thing previously
preventing me from switching). There's been the odd day or two here and
there that the service (including usenet) has been up and down, but
particularly rarely, and I'm BLOODY happy with the price/value for
money.

Most of the stuff I do on the net is text/information related (yes I'm
the 0.001% of internet users who didn't get online primarily for porn!)
though I do download/live stream some motorsport stuff (all legally of
course) and I'm happy with it all. I don't know how well tpg does usenet
in general, but the groups I read/post to (not many I'll admit) are aus.
based mostly, and I don't seem to be missing anything.







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[Clocky]

Seems that very few people know what usenet is including ISP's that have a
news server, I've had the same problem getting help when there has been an
outage.
For various reason we use 2 ISP's, Internode and TPG and they both have
access to newservers that allow binaries.

Internode usenet support is likely to be dropped soon now that iiNet has
their finger in Internode's pie.

Mind you, as soon as they do I'll drop them because I can get better value
elsewhere.

 

[F Murtz]

It's been on the blink for bloody years and years. It was one of the
reasons (and believe me I had a few reasons I had to go with them at
all, since I lived 'off the grid' (socially, not geographically) and
didn't even have a bank account for close to a decade, and they were one
of the few that would go with billing and paying by the month)

It wouldn't work for cable customers at all but would for adsl and every
time I rang them about it they would say either 'it's working' (despite
big threads on whirlpool that it wasn't) or worse still they'd say 'this
is the tech advice line, this is only for where you ring up if you can't
configure your modem or something' or other nonsense - in other words
there isn't actually any real process (or wasn't back then not too many
years ago) to report problems that are clearly at THEIR end (like the
fact that any time a shaped account was slowed, it'd regularly
experience server time outs and not let you download your emails if
there was more than about 5-6 (and I was getting about 50-100 per day)
as it'd take too long and get a time out. Why the **** they slowed the
email side of things I'll never know, since it's direct to bigpond, no
need for bandwith outside of there. Occasionally you'd get honest people
on the tech line and they'd say 'look we are aware of the issue, we keep
telling them, but they mumble mumble mumble (reading between the lines
they were saying 'we are reporting it but nobody gives a **** and has no
plans or capability to fix it).

A good friend of mine is upper management at telstra and he has told me
that when Sol came in, he was tasked with getting everyone onto the new
billing scheme. Much of the stuff he did completely fucked everything
else about the service, but he and his crew just kept using the wanker
analogy 'look if you have a race car, even if it crosses the finish line
first, upside down, on its roof and on fire, you have done the job'. I
just wish someone had told them 'yes and then you move on and we have to
rebuild a race car, a driver has either died or will spend the next
decade getting skin grafts and in enormous pain, and the team will go
bankrupt, but 'hey' we won the race right?

And that's about the size of it. He genuinely expects it could take till
post 2020 before it is fully sorted, so much harm and butchery was done.



I'm not going to say it is perfect, but a mate and myself (at separate
locations) both went to TPG adsl. I even went to the trouble of now
having both a bank account AND a credit card (the one thing previously
preventing me from switching). There's been the odd day or two here and
there that the service (including usenet) has been up and down, but
particularly rarely, and I'm BLOODY happy with the price/value for
money.

Most of the stuff I do on the net is text/information related (yes I'm
the 0.001% of internet users who didn't get online primarily for porn!)
though I do download/live stream some motorsport stuff (all legally of
course) and I'm happy with it all. I don't know how well tpg does usenet
in general, but the groups I read/post to (not many I'll admit) are aus.
based mostly, and I don't seem to be missing anything.

I am forced to have a bundled bigpong account because of where I live.
Alternatives are more expensive or do not work.
If I am paying for a service which includes usenet I should get it.
I was just trying to find out if it still exists and working for ammo
when told otherwise by the useless bigpong employees

 

[Noddy]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about, I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie
service each time long wait.

I'm not the least bit surprised. You'd struggle to find anyone at
Telstra who knows what "the internet" is.

even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

news.bigpond.com still works, but it's *very* unreliable.

 

[D Walford]

Internode usenet support is likely to be dropped soon now that iiNet has
their finger in Internode's pie.

Mind you, as soon as they do I'll drop them because I can get better value
elsewhere.

Internode isn't as good since it was merged with iiNet which is why we
now also use TPG, Internode doesn't have any unlimited plans but TPG
does so its set up so that if my son wants to download big files like
movies it uses TPG but for basic browsing it uses Internode.
We would drop Internode but TPG isn't without problems, speed can drop
off very noticeably at peak times although that seems to be getting better.
I have had issues with Internode usenet lately so when it plays up I
just switch to TPG's newserver, I'm using it now.


Daryl

 

[D Walford]

I am forced to have a bundled bigpong account because of where I live.
Alternatives are more expensive or do not work.
If I am paying for a service which includes usenet I should get it.
I was just trying to find out if it still exists and working for ammo
when told otherwise by the useless bigpong employees

I'm lucky in that I have a son who works in IT so he sorts out any
internet issues I have, he understands usenet and occasionally posts
here so if I have a problem he sorts it out including dealing with
ISP's, they seem to respond better when talking to someone who knows how
their systems work.


Daryl

 

[F Murtz]

Well it still works, but I use E-S.
settings:
server: news.bigpond.com
your email addy
your account pwd

I tried seting it up with both IE and seamonkey

When I try to connect to server with either seamonkey or IE it pretends
to start downloading groups and just stops.
In the case of IE at least it says,The tcp/ip connection was
unexpectedly terminated by the server.

 

[Why are people so cruel]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong to
talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking about,
I kept getting transferred about to no where,even once to movie service
each time long wait.
even tried ombudsman, only got two complaint nos.from him.
Maybe they just switched it off like some providers.

Every time I cant get access to news-server.bigpond I just deduct $20 from
my bill and send them a complaint email which gives you a logged receipt.
I spent at least an hour on the phone educating some plonker about Usenet,
she tried to access it using IE and could not understand why it was not
working. Finally she gave up and just passed me over to accounts who
tried to con me into halving my claim for credit - bit difficult for them as
they had about a dozen emails from me over a period of three months.
"No service - no pay" seems to get a bit more focus. Worst part of dealing
with Bigpond/Telstra is the time it takes on the phone, you never seem to
be able to get an answer in 5 minutes.

 

[bugalugs]

I had trouble with "eternal-september" about a week ago, so I shifted to
their "Reader80.eternal-september" - port 80. Working well and didn't
need to re-register.

Pinched from another group:

The eternal-september server is located in Germany, and this happened
overnight there. Judging from the usage stats, it looks like it started
about 7 PM local time and was fixed about 4:45 AM the next day. In New
Zealand time, that was 7 AM to 4:45 PM.

On this occasion (as described in eternal-september.support) it was an
accidental side effect of some maintenance on another part of the
system, which resulted in one method of connecting to the server not
working. It appears that the problem was not noticed before the site
administrator went home for the night, and he fixed it the next morning.

To be precise: the software responsible for accepting NTTP connections
on port 119 was rejecting every attempt to connect. It was fixed by
restarting that software. Other connection methods were not affected, so
it only affected some users. It appears that NNTP via port 119 was the
most popular method, as the number of connections was signficantly lower
than normal.

 

[Jeßus]

Have included aus cars as some seem to know about telstra.


Anyone using bigpond usenet and is it still working?
I have just spent the last few hours trying to find someone in bigpong
to talk to about the usenet service and no one knows what I am talking
about,

Heh, so nothing has changed since I was on BPC I see

 

[Jeßus]

just go to eternal.september.org and open a free account. They offer a
usenet server service that updates quickly and works with no hassles.
I have been using them for some time now since my isp stopped doing
usenet (nobody there knew what it was either!).

regards, Art

Thats not what he was asking about, was it?