Re: Liability & responsibility of electrician?

[jk]

There was a transition period
allowed to give plenty of time for the switch over, mean while, they
simply did things like 480 volts in a 240 volt receptacle..

A particular inspectior in a particular jurisdiction might have
allowed this, but it would not be to code, and ther eIS NO GRANDFATHER
CLAUSE any where in the NEC.



jk

 

[jk]

Wasn't really talking TO you sock puppy, but

You are that immature little retarded bastard.

Once again your favorite self reference. You DO like to talk about
yourself.

jk

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

You do Asinine at master level and Jerk at world class level.

Gunner

I'll bet that you think you are a legend, and that your words are
historic.

You do stupid at every day dumb American level. That exceeds both
'master' and 'world class' 'level'.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

It clearly was not.

What part of 'the very mention of OSHA made the geography US only' do
you not understand, dumbfuck?

It doesn't matter one bit where ANY other poster may be from, idiot.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Many on here are NOT from the US, (although most
use the language fore fluently than you can)

"fore fluently"?

Bwuahahahahahahaha!

Again, idiot, it does not matter what the reach of the forum is. The
mere mention of OSHA ties the discussion to the US and only the US.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Cite???

There are rules for everything, right down to trash cans and keyboards
and wrist rests, idiot. So even office personnel are under its wing. No
'work place' escapes.

You are pathetic.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

they
would no carny some of the induced currents too.

'would no carny'?

WTF is that dumb shit, you illiterate puke?

 

[Doug Miller]

There are rules for everything, right down to trash cans and keyboards
and wrist rests, idiot. So even office personnel are under its wing. No
'work place' escapes.

Wrong yet again.

This is the definition of "employer" in the Occupational Safety and Health Act
of 1970, Section 3, cited at http://www.legalarchiver.org/osh.htm

(5) The term "employer" means a person engaged in a business affecting
commerce who has employees, but does not include the United States (not
including the United States Postal Service) or any State or political
subdivision of a State.

It's obvious on its face that this excludes *all* government workplaces except
the USPS. With a bit of reflection, it's also obvious that this definition
excludes *all* sole proprietorships (because they don't have employees). It
also doesn't cover any business not "affecting commerce".

 

[Richard Cranium]

Why don't you two guys get a room?

Harold

Can they use yours? You probably don't need it.

 

[Richard Cranium]

'would no carny'?

WTF is that dumb shit, you illiterate puke?

It's sad when you have to stoop to pointing out typos - as if you
don't make them yourself. You're a pathetic porker Archie; an obese
blob.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Do if for da chillins.

Learn that dumb shit up in LA, did ya, boy?

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Nope. Im just a simple fella,

We already knew that you were simple. The remark I made was about your
perceptions of yourself.

strong in my beliefs,

If you even have the mental capacity to know what a belief is.

pretty smart,

You have yet to exhibit any such level here.

and
have fought for Freedom for many years.

Though it is irrelative, it is hard to believe, wire boy.

And I enjoy slapping the snot
out of pissy little Libtards such as yourself.

Though I am not "a liberal" of any kind, let me know any time you want
to come down and try doing your snot slapping thing.

I dont do it for a
living...just a hobby.

Perhaps someone should let the authorities know about your illicit
behavior. Is that what you think you "fought" for?

Its easy to do and offers some entertainment.

Sounds like a gang boy retard mentality to me.

Like chatting with the condemned.

"like" chatting with the condemned? Not quite the same, you pissy
little retard?

I do more challenging things most of
the time,

Like trying to find your penis with the magnifier eyewear and tweezers?

but hey..a few minutes here, a few minutes there..and pretty
soon my spleen is as empty as your head.

I can empty your spleen for you in a sheer millisecond, if you wish.

 

[TheKraken]

I think my boyfriend will be helpful here.

Helpful in getting you sent to a prison cell.

He has some people working
on identifying the guy you're currently engaged with based on a few
other nyms he uses (there are so many). He has a couple of leads at
local (San Diego) contractors doing work for a part of his unit. It
seems that some of the guys there know of a potty-mouthed tech who's
bragged of his Internet skills and how he beats down everyone who he
decides is an "idiot".

Nice try, but since I have never had any such conversation with any
such "contractors", so you and your friends are already barking up the
wrong tree going in.

Sure sounds like the pig you're dealing with.

Amd I am a pig because I pointed out that defiling the corpse of an
enemy soldier is an act which endangers your own fellow soldiers?

That's pretty sad, little girl. Maybe you need some more years of
growing up to do.

We're trying to decide what do when we have his real ID. Meet him for
a cup of coffee? Post the info so others can also meet him for
coffee? We'll see.

This absolutely qualifies under the federal guidelines, as a threat.

Sorry, honey, but you just committed a federal felony... again.

Performing the search is also a felony act for each "search" you
commission someone to perform. Both you, your boyfriend, and the person
or persons you commission to perform the illegal search function are
guilty of the crime. One count for each and every act.

 

[jk]

Well, no, but any attempt at forcing compliance with a code that didn't exist
at the time the installation was made falls under the Constitutional
prohibitions against ex post facto legislation...

Arguable, but it is the usual interpretation, but.... as soon as there
are ANY changes in the facility wiring, they technically could require
the entire facility be brought up to the most recent code.

That is not the general interpretation, but it has been done.
Generally the inspectors/jurisdiction only require that the
new/modified work be compliant.
This can get a little dicey in hospitals and other health care
facilities, with the(relatively)new "fully selective coordination "
requirement, which can require changes back to the service entrance
and E gen.

jk

 

[jk]

Fire codes do this all the time, particularly in commercial and rental
units. Smoke and CO detectors being prime examples.

So do other codes, such as those used to force people to no longer
park their RVs in a driveway, and so on. Any ordinance that requires
abatement action probably also does this.
jk

 

[jk]

The total retard that thinks he ranks high in society. You barely rate
retard, retard. Your sig proves that.

Ahh your favorite word again, try looking up another type of "nym"
(Synonym). Or is that too much like your 9th grade summer school
homework.

You are vulgar, trite, small minded, dim witted, under educated,
lacking in the basic usenet social skills, and probably most social
skill in general.

I've yet to see YOU post ANY useful content on ANY thing you have
commented on.

The closest your sputum comes to well written, is that it should be at
the bottom of a well used for a cess pit. Your single claim to fame
seems to be in your ancestors, a dubious and unsupported one.



jk

 

[jk]

The word is Psuedonym, you retarded twit.

Proving you have little or no reading comprehension. Read it again
you scurvy boned lackwit.

By refusing to set your PC clock
correctly, you epitomize one that would and well should have it coming.

But you seem to be the only one who really cares. So get over it.

A few of your claimed attributes are projections by you from looking in
the mirror, however.

WHy thank you. I realize you didn't intend it, and lack the logic to
comprehend it, but thanks.

I have yet to see any document where you were commissioned to make any
such assessment.

No one needs such a "Commission", such as I don't expect you have
one from "PC clockwatcher Anon." and yet here you are, guarding the
internet against the evils of clocks YOU deem incorrectly set.

Of course you have yet to explain your fetish. Your clock fetish that
is, you have illuminated some of your others.

You are unqualified,
unsolicited, unprofessional, and too deeply entrenched into the muck that
is your flawed personality to ever make any such assessment on anyone.

Wow.... A WHOLE sentence without using your favorite insult, or
vulgarity.

As if a dope like you could declare anything as being dubious

I see you do not claim it isn't dubious. We all know why.
jk

 

[jk]

You're correct, there isn't, that has long been past.
when the change was done, there was a time period allotted to us, to
update the electrical to match the change.
Not all of it has been done in many of the old mills/factories.

Assuming those were included in your scope of work for the
'allotted time", then your company is in willful violation.

The issue is that, a lot of portable equipment is used from one
process to another, locations change and so on. One has the correct
plug, where the other does not. So, most of the time, the shortest way
is taken during portable equipment relocation.

Dream site for an OSHA inspector, assuming you are in an area subject
to OSHA. I presume you are, since you have referenced the NEC as I
recall.

When you have plant managers constantly at you, you tend to find the
fastest way to make them happy. Of course, when something goes wrong,
the big guy simply goes down the food chain. Facts of life.

Sounds to me like you admit that you are doing work that you KNOW to
be both unsafe and in violation of the COde.


jk

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

"down" in L.A. doncha mean?

No, retard. LA is UP from here.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

It would appear that you are suddenly understanding that your behavior
may have caused the attention of people who have little patience for
such behavior and are in the mode to remove that behavior.

Mode? Grow up, Gunner.

Its interesting how you suddenly go all fluttery and "legalistic"
(though incorrectly)

A retarded twit like you wouldn't know.

when serious people suddenly decide to take an
interest in you.

Serious criminals.

Heads up fuctard....

That would be fucktard, you pussy, and an ellipsis is three periods, not
four.

an "Interest" is now in effect

No. Yet another retard is mentally masturbating, again.

and you will be
harvesting what you sowed.

Sounds like you also have no clue what an oath is, much less the nature
of its contents.

I hope your shinnanigans

You should really learn to spell, if you want any credibility here,
little boy.

up to this part
were worth the ultimate price you pay for the harvest.

Yet you have no clue about what defines criminality.

It certainly has nothing to do with anything I ever said.

You and your ilk, on the other hand, cannot make the same claim.

Diego...thats not too far south from LA..and I have clients down there.

Good for you, pussy boy. Bring it on, jackass.

Guys..email me with his addy etc when its discovered, no need to put it
here in public.

More pussy boy behavior.

Ill pass it around to some of the others and we shall
see what we shall see. Shrug

emails leave an even easier to track bit trail. Go ahead and continue
in your criminal endeavors.

Diego is a military town,

Figure that one out all by yourself, pussy boy?

just filled to the brim with retired spooks,

Most of them know their oath. You will likely not find any help among
real men.

spec ops people etc etc. San Marcos etc etc are hotbeds of such people.
Some of them even owe me favors.

Well call 'em in, felony boy.