John said:No, you've used that one already. A word-for-today can only be used
once.
John
Windmills do work, lots of work, and they're just powered by air.
When you hook it up to your compressor load, it
It would take only a tiny amount of power to pump a few cubic inches
of air a day. At thousands of strokes per day, its displacement would
be tiny... think about a piston the size of a pencil lead.
Nobody would buy either one. But that doesn't make the ideas much less
interesting. You can never develop new stuff if you whack-a-mole every
idea as soon as it pops up.
John
[snip]Nobody would buy either one. But that doesn't make the ideas much less
interesting. You can never develop new stuff if you whack-a-mole every
idea as soon as it pops up.
John
From what you've posted,that guy patented your concept 10 years ago,and
AFAIK,no one has seen any prototype proving it would work.
Do they also have a guy who comes out and asks, "fill 'er up?"
Where do I find this time warp? ;-)
Jim said:But THEY are designed to face into the airflow.
Just like your ram air generator.
Not be sideways to the airflow like a wheel spinner.
(which does not depend on airflow to spin it)
Perhaps you have seen the TV show "TMZ" or the web site TMZ.COM?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:42:52 -0700, ChairmanOfTheBored
Don't weasel. It's undignified.
But THEY are designed to face into the airflow.
Just like your ram air generator.
Not be sideways to the airflow like a wheel spinner.
(which does not depend on airflow to spin it)
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:00:59 -0700, John Larkin
Macon?? That's almost as good as having "...bored..." do it ;-)
No, MissingProng can't do math at all. He's entirely number-phobic.
You're an idiot. I can do the math without even making a single actual
calculation.
That's very Zen: doing the math without doing the math.
It is 100% obvious that it is a futile endeavor, and then
there are several other factors that make it a prohibitive venture.
The term for today is:
UNSPRUNG WEIGHT
You know... that thing that one does NOT want to add to their
suspension assembly, particularly at the wheel... ;-]
Gosh, why do people have wheel covers?
John
Generally found on NON-performance autos.
(ones people don't care about handling or unsprung weight)
Also,often found on the side of the road after passing a pothole. ;-)
In Orlando,there are few service stations that have repair bays/mechanics.
google the MF-1040,I bought it at PepBoys.
It runs on 12 volts DC from your cig lighter outlet.
As I said,it's not one of those cheapo auto compressors.
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:56:18 -0700, ChairmanOfTheBored
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:00:59 -0700, John Larkin
Macon?? That's almost as good as having "...bored..." do it ;-)
No, MissingProng can't do math at all. He's entirely
number-phobic.
You're an idiot. I can do the math without even making a single
actual
calculation.
That's very Zen: doing the math without doing the math.
It is 100% obvious that it is a futile endeavor, and then
there are several other factors that make it a prohibitive venture.
The term for today is:
UNSPRUNG WEIGHT
You know... that thing that one does NOT want to add to their
suspension assembly, particularly at the wheel... ;-]
Gosh, why do people have wheel covers?
John
Generally found on NON-performance autos.
Is wheel bling found on performance autos?
How many care? ISTM that properly inflated tires is more important
for "performance" than bling.
The civilized areas of the country aren't as Mickey-Mouse as Orlando.
$21 puts it in the cheapo class.
I have no use for one. My house is
plumbed for air.
[email protected] says... [snip]In Orlando,there are few service stations that have repair
bays/mechanics.
The civilized areas of the country aren't as Mickey-Mouse as Orlando.
Ah,the standard liberal comeback;"civilized".How elitist.
(so much for their vaunted "diversity";if you're not like us,you're
"uncivilized".)
[snip]Did you hear about the Democrats calling for(and getting) immunizations
before attending a NASCAR race? I guess that sort is too icky for the
Democrats to be near without having their shots.
John said:On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:32:10 -0700, Jim Thompson
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:23:39 -0700, John Larkin
[snip]
No,he's right;those wheel spinners use low friction bearings,and any
crud will stop them.
So, you won't do the math either.
John
Math without practical experience is useless.
Practical experience without math is amateur guesswork.
John
John, I think you've got yourself out on a limb, on the wrong side of
the saw ;-)
I think it's you who has to put some numbers to it.
...Jim Thompson
I already did. And Guy confirmed it.
John
Macon?? That's almost as good as having "...bored..." do it ;-)
No, MissingProng can't do math at all. He's entirely number-phobic.
I think you need a pendulum of _substantial weight_ so that it
_doesn't rotate, but acts as a "pinning" point for the piston(s).
That could work, too. But we'd need a small amount of energy per day.
I'm guessing 1 kilojoule would be plenty - and easy to get - based on
the performance of a little cigaret-lighter-plugin compressor I have.
The bling-spinner idea was cute, and would be a nice sales gimmick.
What
weight does it take for a 1/2" piston working against 30PSI, and what
are the respective arm lengths?
Why 1/2"? The amount of air we'd need is tiny.
I'm not going to design it, much less build one to prove something to
rude strangers, but the numbers seem well in the ballpark of
feasibility. That's the first step in engineering, a quick numerical
estimate to see if an idea has a chance of working. This one does.
John
[snip]
Nobody would buy either one. But that doesn't make the ideas much less
interesting. You can never develop new stuff if you whack-a-mole every
idea as soon as it pops up.
JohnFrom what you've posted,that guy patented your concept 10 years ago,and
AFAIK,no one has seen any prototype proving it would work.
Which doesn't say much for the present competence of the USPTO.
"Reduction to practice" is supposed to be one of the criteria for
award.
Low tire pressure alarms will become standard and manditory in a year or
two.
They already are stock on high end vehicles.
They are ridiculously more cost effective than zillions of pumps that
does nothing for virtually all of their lifetimes.
Perhaps you have seen the TV show "TMZ" or the web site TMZ.COM?
The show is on every night at 11:30 PM for those of us lving in
Southern California and interested in that sort of thing.
From TMZ.com:
What does TMZ stand for?
'TMZ' stands for "Thirty Mile Zone," a term which originated
in the 1960's. Due to the growth of 'on location' shoots,
studios established a "thirty mile zone" to monitor the
regulations of shooting throughout Hollywood. The zone was
originally centered in Los Angeles around the old offices
of The Association of Motion Pictures and Television Producers
at Beverly and La Cienega Boulevards in California. It was
often said that "Everything entertainment happens in the
'Thirty Mile Zone.'" So essentially, the "Thirty Mile Zone"
represents the epicenter of Hollywood! Interesting, huh?!
He's just trying to 'Torque' you off.
Car tires usually run about 32 psi.
And we design electronics, and you don't.
You can't, not because
you're too dumb, but because you refuse to do simple math,
and because
you refuse to consider new ideas.
And you won't fix either problem
because you're too damned stubborn.
Pbbbbbttttt!
