Herd instincts?

[JosephKK]

The Great Attractor
[email protected] posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

If you had actually made your position clear, you might deserve a
response, dipshit.

Keep pushing, your head has not completely disappeared up your asshole
yet.

 

[JosephKK]

Don Bowey [email protected] posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

Probably tue.

Nonsense. The window of opportunity is always open.

False, and false.


False. All the rest is fluff used to construct the *business* of
religion for profit.

Say Don, you sound a bit like a humanist here. Is that somewhere
close?

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Get a clue, boys. It is true of all men. You know... that "created
equal" thing.

Eh, no, what I said was true was my comment about True Socialism -- not the
fact that people lie.

 

[John Fields]

Does this mean pre-emptive talking or pre-emptive shooting ??

Another dead solder for Bush.

 

[John Fields]

No one is arguing that Jim doesn't have a good grip of electronics -
which is where he's doing his presentations.

He's a less reliable source on the wider world.

---
Oh, and you're ever so much more reliable?

Hogwash.

We all see what is and color it in the way that pleases us most, and
your way, no matter how loudly you bleat, is certainly no better
than anyone else's.

 

[John Fields]

I suit my style to the company I keep - I wouldn't want to show you up
by being excessively polite, but I think that even you would admit
that my posts aren't primarily about invective.

---
Not until someone disagrees with you, and then you become offensive
with veiled derision.
---

You know very well that I do look for work - as I see it the problem
is that there isn't a lot of it around for me to find.

---
As I see it, you merely give lip service to "looking for work" and
only do it because that's what's required to stay on the dole.

I'd even be willing to bet that you've botched interviews on purpose
so that you don't have to go back to work.

After all, why should you? As you've admitted, with what you and
your wife both bring in you're comfortable, so there's no real
incentive for you to get back in the race.
---

You will - of
course - have your own opinion about the state of the Dutch job market
for elderly electronic engineers, but I'm not going to add a new page
to my website detailing one hundred and one things a nitwit can do
with a 555.

---
As if you could...
---

Oh. Really?

---
In reality, yes.
---

Pull the other leg. I've met enough guys who can talk up a storm but
can't make anything that works to give the lie to that particular
delusion.

---
Then, probably because of being out of touch with reality, they
didn't create the illusion properly.

But, I think you're trying to change the subject since that's not
what we were talking about, which was that if someone in touch with
reality wants to successfully warp someone else's perception of
reality then he must, at least, be capable of manipulating reality.
That, of course, implies a knowledge of reality adequate to allow
its perception to be warped.
---

Judge and jury, in this particular case. Executioner? Being ignorant
is a capital crime, but the universe passes sentence - it's called
evolution in action.

---
Got any kids?
---

And it doesn't take a superman to know more than
you or Jim.

---
How would you, of all people, know?
---

It's not my problem, it's your problem. And what makes it pretty much
insoluble is that you are complacent about it.

---
Ah, I see...

If only I'd accept your view of reality and "mend my ways" in order
to trudge down "Sloman's way" in lock-step with you that'd solve all
the problems you perceive I have?

Sounds to me like it's _you_ who's got the problem, buddy-boy!

 

[[email protected]]

---
Oh, and you're ever so much more reliable?

Hogwash.

We all see what is and color it in the way that pleases us most, and
your way, no matter how loudly you bleat, is certainly no better
than anyone else's.

You and Jim are remarkably confident on this point. Unfortunately,
this confidence is represents complacent ignorance. You don't see much
of what is - in large part because you get your news from news
networks who see themselves as part of the entertainment industry, and
don't waste good entertainment time telling you much about the world
outside the Unites States, and don't risk aggravating their audience
by telling them that their preconceptions aren't entirely correct.

Your approach has a lot in common with Dubbya's approach to global
warming. He has access to the best scientific advice available, and
choses not only to ignore it, but also goes out of his way to make
sure that that advice isn't published by any civil servant he can
control.

You may think that this approach is no worse than anybody else's, but
unfortunately, you happen to be wrong.

Ignorance is a capital offense, and the universe eventually carries
out the sentence.

 

[[email protected]]

Eh, no, what I said was true was my comment about True Socialism -- not the
fact that people lie.

Your comment was a put-down of socialism, because the wrong people
claim to support it.

Grass roots revolutionaries like to claim to be socialist in the same
way that Dubbya likes to claim to be in favour of democracy, because
it sounds good. If grass roots revolutionaries get power, they set up
oligarchies (as in Communist Russia) so that they can hang onto power
and the economic advantages that come with it.

When push comes to shove, Dubbya prefers military dictatorships to
democracy - as with Musharraf in Pakistan - because he will do what
Dubbya wants, against the will of the Pakistani people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf

To give Dubbya his due, he is following his predecessors in this, whp
supported Pinochet in Chile, Saddam in Irak and Franco in Spain,
amongst many others.

 

[JosephKK]

Herbert John "Jackie" Gleason [email protected] posted
to sci.electronics.design:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."


[snip]



You might be getting cause and effect mixed up with the
liberal/progressive tendencies. Perhaps it is the property of
having a broad education that makes one seem like a 'liberal'.

Naaaah! It's part of the mental defectiveness that thinks a label
(PhD) infuses intelligence.

Whereas Jim represents the kind of mental deficiency that fails to
see that it is kind of difficult to do the work required to get a
Ph.D. without having a fair measure of intelligence to start with -
IQ tests on people who have managed to get a Ph.D. suggest that they
are pretty much all drawn from that tail of the population with IQ's
of 115 or higher. Of course, once you've got over that threshold,
your IQ-score doesn't correlate to any significant extent with your
subsequent success.

Jim was once intelligent enough to qualify for membeship of Mensa,
which does go to show that the intelligence defined by IQ tests is a
rather narrowly applicable skill.

Slowman hits a home run.

Funny definition where it dribbles off the bat into the catchers mitt.

 

[JosephKK]

ChairmanOfTheBored [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

The first sign that you are full of shit is when you spout
bullshit, as
you do so often, and have done here.

That is so far past the long used cast iron cauldron calling the
sparkling clean stainless steel kettle black that no hyperbole
suffices.

 

[JosephKK]

Jim Thompson [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

I know a cashier there with a BSEE... makes more money than he can
make in industry... just got promoted to an assistant manager
position ;-)

...Jim Thompson

That sounds strange. Almost any adequate electrical engineer can get
a 100K+ per year job now days, i know many that have them. I doubt
that even a grocery store (location) manager in a grocery chain makes
that much, i could be wrong though.

 

[John Larkin]

Herbert John "Jackie" Gleason [email protected] posted
to sci.electronics.design:

On Nov 17, 4:39 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."


[snip]



You might be getting cause and effect mixed up with the
liberal/progressive tendencies. Perhaps it is the property of
having a broad education that makes one seem like a 'liberal'.

Naaaah! It's part of the mental defectiveness that thinks a label
(PhD) infuses intelligence.

Whereas Jim represents the kind of mental deficiency that fails to
see that it is kind of difficult to do the work required to get a
Ph.D. without having a fair measure of intelligence to start with -
IQ tests on people who have managed to get a Ph.D. suggest that they
are pretty much all drawn from that tail of the population with IQ's
of 115 or higher. Of course, once you've got over that threshold,
your IQ-score doesn't correlate to any significant extent with your
subsequent success.

Jim was once intelligent enough to qualify for membeship of Mensa,
which does go to show that the intelligence defined by IQ tests is a
rather narrowly applicable skill.

Slowman hits a home run.

Funny definition where it dribbles off the bat into the catchers mitt.

I can't read his posts. They're like being beaten with a boring stick.

John

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Hmm, so it's a one way system in your counrty. Guys pay money into the
gubberment, but no money out, unless it's to corporations?

There is Unemployment available, but not for the rest of your life.
It usually has a 26 week maximum. There are also programs to teach you
new skills to find other types of work. It isn't a free ride, till you
die. If you refuse to find another job, it isn't anyone else's fault.

In civilised domains, they help out the needy. Mr S. has probably paid
a lot of tax.

Really? I thought that he had never had a job in the country he's
living in. Why should they pay unemployment for jobs he held in other
countries?

Maybe it is payback time.

if it was, they would turn off the free money tap.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

ChairmanOfTheBored [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:


That is so far past the long used cast iron cauldron calling the
sparkling clean stainless steel kettle black that no hyperbole
suffices.

You are about as "sparkling clean Stainless" as one of my freshly laid
in the toilet turds.

**** off, you piece of shit.

 

[John Larkin]

You are about as "sparkling clean Stainless" as one of my freshly laid
in the toilet turds.

**** off, you piece of shit.

Your obsession with excrement is getting out of hand. You might
consider professional help.

John

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

Your obsession with excrement is getting out of hand. You might
consider professional help.

You're a goddamned idiot... AND a shithead as well.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Your obsession with excrement is getting out of hand. You might
consider professional help.

John

True. but Roto Rooter can't handle jobs that large.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[John Fields]

You and Jim are remarkably confident on this point. Unfortunately,
this confidence is represents complacent ignorance. You don't see much
of what is - in large part because you get your news from news
networks who see themselves as part of the entertainment industry, and
don't waste good entertainment time telling you much about the world
outside the Unites States, and don't risk aggravating their audience
by telling them that their preconceptions aren't entirely correct.

Your approach has a lot in common with Dubbya's approach to global
warming. He has access to the best scientific advice available, and
choses not only to ignore it, but also goes out of his way to make
sure that that advice isn't published by any civil servant he can
control.

You may think that this approach is no worse than anybody else's, but
unfortunately, you happen to be wrong.

Ignorance is a capital offense, and the universe eventually carries
out the sentence.

---
Jim and I both have children and grandchildren, so our lines will
more than likely continue to flourish after we shuffle off this
mortal coil.

You, I believe, have no heirs, so when it's lights out for you
there'll be no one there to keep the fire burning. Oh, well, it's
not like the end of the world or anything...

Anyway, as far as the 'discussion' goes, I see you've opted to
chicken out by reverting to your tawdry America and American
bashing, so I'll bid you adieu and let you stew in your own bile.

Adieu

 

[JosephKK]

[email protected] [email protected] posted to
sci.electronics.design:

<snip>

Technically speaking, I'm not living off my wife's income, but my
unemployment benefit - we live rather more comfortably than I would
if I were paying my own way, but my wife isn't going to stint
herself to make some cranky Yank happy.

White collar welfare. It will be the final demise of modern European
civilization in ten to twenty years. I hope you will like becoming a
new third world country.

 

[[email protected]]

Provided that Dubbya's self-indulgent attitude to global warming
doesn't wipe them out with some kind of mass extinction event. It's
unlikely that we'll hit one of the potential positive feeback trigger
points before we can do something about it, but the head in the sand
approach doesn't inspire confidence.

You, I believe, have no heirs, so when it's lights out for you
there'll be no one there to keep the fire burning. Oh, well, it's
not like the end of the world or anything...

My nieces and nephews (there are eight of them) should keep my genes
in circulation for a while yet, and I've got a couple of published and
cited papers which could be seen as an intellectual legacy, not that
there seems to be that much point in getting fussed about it. Once you
are dead, you are out of it.

Anyway, as far as the 'discussion' goes, I see you've opted to
chicken out by reverting to your tawdry America and American
bashing, so I'll bid you adieu and let you stew in your own bile.

The bile seems to be yours. There are quite a few Americans whose view
of the world isn't limited by the blinkers imposed by your news
networks, and I've no interest in "bashing" them.

I am interested in trying to get people like you and Jim to recognise
that your society - as a whole - doesn't deal well with certain social
problems which other countries handle rather better. Your health care
system is the classic example - you spend more on health care than
anybody else, about 14% of your GDP, and have poorer public health
statistics than much poorer countries (Cuba comes to mind). The French
and the Germans do appreciably better while spending around 8% of the
GDP on health care

Pointing this out may be America-bashing. but any damage I might be
doing is trivial in comparison with the damage caused by the
inadequacies of your extravagantly expensive health care system.

Shooting the messenger isn't a constructive solution, but it does seem
to be the best that you and Jim can come up with. So stew in your own
bile.