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Which Os is better among the Windows Vista.

I heard lot about the Windows Vista OS, but i am not confident which
to go for, is Home edition good, Business version or the Ultimate
version.... being professional as s/w engineer as for my home purpose
which one will suite the most.
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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I heard lot about the Windows Vista OS, but i am not confident which
to go for, is Home edition good, Business version or the Ultimate
version.... being professional as s/w engineer as for my home purpose
which one will suite the most.

XP
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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I heard lot about the Windows Vista OS, but i am not confident which
to go for, is Home edition good, Business version or the Ultimate
version.... being professional as s/w engineer as for my home purpose
which one will suite the most.

Forget Vista.

Install XP. It's MUCH better.

Graham
 
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Mark D. Zacharias

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Forget Vista.

Install XP. It's MUCH better.

Graham

This seems to be the consensus. Probably at least wait until Vista is
"fixed" with a service pack or two.

Mark Z.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark D. Zacharias said:
This seems to be the consensus. Probably at least wait until Vista is
"fixed" with a service pack or two.

Pointless. That'll just make it slower still.

Graham
 
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hexHead®

Jan 1, 1970
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I heard lot about the Windows Vista OS, but i am not confident which
to go for, is Home edition good, Business version or the Ultimate
version.... being professional as s/w engineer as for my home purpose
which one will suite the most.

you'd save a lot of time and effort by just going outside, opening
your wallet and settings fire to 2 new $100 bills.

don't even consider Vista if you're running XP and everything works.
 
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John Tserkezis

Jan 1, 1970
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Pointless. That'll just make it slower still.

The first Vista service pack appears to be just a vehicle for features
they've forgotten. It doesn't address the problems (mainly software
compatibility) that people have been mentioning.

I don't know if it'll make it slower, but it won't actually _fix_ anything.
 
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bz

Jan 1, 1970
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you'd save a lot of time and effort by just going outside, opening
your wallet and settings fire to 2 new $100 bills.

don't even consider Vista if you're running XP and everything works.

I took Vista OFF this Dell Insprion 640 laptop and put XP pro on it.

The department and university pays Microsoft for Site licencing so I can
choose without worrying about cost.
Microsoft is supposed to start shipping a NEW operating system sometime
next year.

I wish they would finish fixing one system before they start shipping
another.
I wish they didn't feel like they had to give things a 'face lift' and
change file formats every few years.

Microsoft, the company you love to hate.



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bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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mc

Jan 1, 1970
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Forget Vista.
This seems to be the consensus. Probably at least wait until Vista is
"fixed" with a service pack or two.


I disagree with the consensus. Go for Vista Ultimate. What's wrong with
it? Just that it's new?
 
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mc

Jan 1, 1970
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I wish they didn't feel like they had to give things a 'face lift' and
change file formats every few years.

Microsoft, the company you love to hate.


Of course. DOS 1.0 was perfect, and then they ruined it. Right?
 
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Dave

Jan 1, 1970
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I heard lot about the Windows Vista OS, but i am not confident which
to go for, is Home edition good, Business version or the Ultimate
version.... being professional as s/w engineer as for my home purpose
which one will suite the most.

Any variant of unix or linux. If you must test your code, use VMWare.

Mac OS x uses a UNIX backend, and you get the both of both worlds: pretty
eye-candy desktop from Apple with bullet-proof UNIX engine under the hood.
They come stock with a pretty hefty suite of developer tools too.
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I wish they would finish fixing one system before they start
shipping another.

If they did, you'd have no motivation to buy the "perfect" new system.

This applies to all software companies, not just Microsoft.
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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Any variant of unix or linux. If you must test your code, use VMWare.

Mac OS x uses a UNIX backend, and you get the both of both worlds: pretty
eye-candy desktop from Apple with bullet-proof UNIX engine under the hood.
They come stock with a pretty hefty suite of developer tools too.

And........ It runs Windows natively.

I just put Windows XP on my MacBook Pro, and it runs it as well and as fast
as do my PCs. I installed it in a manner that allows me to switch between
OSX and Windows without re-booting, so I can easily run the Windows
applications for which there are no Mac equivalent; like the Streets and
Trips map software. It's the best of both worlds.
 
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JeffM

Jan 1, 1970
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mc said:
I disagree with the consensus. Go for Vista Ultimate.
What's wrong with it?

Name something that Vista adds to your computing experience
--y'know besides:
Disk writes are slowed down to check for DRM.
(Just what I'm looking for in an OS:
It slows down while calling you a thief.)

Ever-increasingly buggy product activation. (Again: THIEF.)

Application incompatibility.

My favorite one:
"Playing Music Slows Vista's Network Performance"
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/21/1441240&mode=nested&threshold=5#20307333
..
..
The reviews for Vista that don't blast its poor performance
and resource gobbling have been pretty tepid.
M$ dropped gobs of promised stuff
to meet their WAY over-ambitious (for M$) schedule.

The reviews for Leopard and Gutsy Gibbon
have pretty much been glowing.
Compare Apple's and Ubuntu's development cycles
and you quickly see that M$ should be ashamed
to have ever shoved their latest PoS out the door.

Compare the prices as well.
 
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Dave

Jan 1, 1970
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Don Bowey said:
And........ It runs Windows natively.

I just put Windows XP on my MacBook Pro, and it runs it as well and as
fast
as do my PCs. I installed it in a manner that allows me to switch between
OSX and Windows without re-booting, so I can easily run the Windows
applications for which there are no Mac equivalent; like the Streets and
Trips map software. It's the best of both worlds.
I find that running within VMWare gives an added measure of security against
crashes, Windows may cause the VMWare environment to crash but it will not
take down the machine. How is yours set up to allow both to run
concurrently? I am very curious.

Dave S.
 
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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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I find that running within VMWare gives an added measure of security against
crashes, Windows may cause the VMWare environment to crash but it will not
take down the machine. How is yours set up to allow both to run
concurrently? I am very curious.

Dave S.

Software named Parallels is used to manage the Windows installation to
enable it. I haven't looked into "how." The software Apple seems to be
pushing for directing Windows installation, sets them up so you must boot
one or the other.

Once installed, I can, at my option, switch between the Systems with a
keyclick (background is either XP or OSX), or go into a mode that makes
everything transparent and enabling sharing the clipboard and moving between
XP and OSX software. It also, seamlessly, manages printers, wireless
access, etc.

When I am "in" OSX I run the OSX version of Office, and when I am in XP it
lets me run the OSX version of Office also.

I haven't found a downside any of this, and now I find I have surplus
application specific computers. For the future, this means less money going
for application software.

People who don't want to buy an Apple computer, need an equivalent to
Parallels so they can run OSX, and leave Windows in the dust. OTOH, I like
XP, so I'm no longer an Apple-only booster, but I still don't like Microsoft
in general.
 
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bz

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course. DOS 1.0 was perfect, and then they ruined it. Right?

When I bought Level 3 basic for my TRS-80 from an unknown company named
'Microsoft', I sent in the registration card expecting that they would keep
me informed of problems and updates.
They didn't.

DOS 1.0 was a rip off of CPM. A poorly done rip off.

None of their programs have been perfect. But rather than rewrite the
software to FIX the problems while keeping the
SAME 'look and feel' and keeping the same formats for files, most software
vendors opt for making the interface look 'purty'.

It doesn't have to work. It just has to look 'purty'. Extra Purty for XP.

"Oh...that feature? It doesn't work quite right yet but go ahead and ship
it out, we will fix it later, if someone complains."

I have 9 computer on my desk. Several XP pros, a 2003 server, a mac mini, a
power mac 9500/120, a red hat linux machine.

Several of the machines are running other OS's under VMware. For example,
on the linux machine I am running Windows NT4 in a virtual environment.

On my laptop I can run dos, win3.1, win95, Vista, Plan9, WinNT4, WinXP pro,
Win2k, Win2k3, Knoppix, and others, all under VMware, and often do when
testing software.

I USE computers and software to accomplish tasks. I like it when software
'works'. I like it when it works the same way, day after day.

I don't like it when a new version comes out, looks different, acts
different and produces files that are formatted different because I know
that my users are going to be getting or sending out files that other
people can not access and I am going to need to help them fix these
problems.

I don't like it when a company (microsoft, for example) pushes their
'standards' instead of following industry standards.

I don't like it when they 'enhance' e-mail by defaulting their e-mail
client to sending in html.

I don't like it when they make their e-mail client EXECUTE programs (html,
zip files, exe files) that it finds attached to an e-mail.

I don't like it when they write their operating system, from the ground up,
assuming that no one will inject invalid date into any data field.
failing to check for buffer overflow.

There are many things about microsoft that I don't like.

No one is perfect. But Microsoft has take developing imperfections to new
heights with their release of Vista. They fixed a lot of things but MOST of
those were things that they could and should have fixed, years ago, before
shipping Window 2.0






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bz 73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

[email protected] remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
 
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Smitty Two

Jan 1, 1970
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Don Bowey said:
Software named Parallels is used to manage the Windows installation to
enable it. I haven't looked into "how." The software Apple seems to be
pushing for directing Windows installation, sets them up so you must boot
one or the other.

Once installed, I can, at my option, switch between the Systems with a
keyclick (background is either XP or OSX), or go into a mode that makes
everything transparent and enabling sharing the clipboard and moving between
XP and OSX software. It also, seamlessly, manages printers, wireless
access, etc.

When I am "in" OSX I run the OSX version of Office, and when I am in XP it
lets me run the OSX version of Office also.

I haven't found a downside any of this, and now I find I have surplus
application specific computers. For the future, this means less money going
for application software.

People who don't want to buy an Apple computer, need an equivalent to
Parallels so they can run OSX, and leave Windows in the dust. OTOH, I like
XP, so I'm no longer an Apple-only booster, but I still don't like Microsoft
in general.

William S., isn't this what you said you were waiting for, before you
bought a mac? Now you can.
 
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James Sweet

Jan 1, 1970
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And........ It runs Windows natively.

I just put Windows XP on my MacBook Pro, and it runs it as well and as
fast
as do my PCs. I installed it in a manner that allows me to switch between
OSX and Windows without re-booting, so I can easily run the Windows
applications for which there are no Mac equivalent; like the Streets and
Trips map software. It's the best of both worlds.

If they traded the idiotic single button trackpad for an industry standard 2
button variety I'd buy one of those. Yeah, I know, there's tricks to get
around it, but I want my second button, just like *all* the competition
provides.
 
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isw

Jan 1, 1970
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And........ It runs Windows natively.

I just put Windows XP on my MacBook Pro, and it runs it as well and as
fast
as do my PCs. I installed it in a manner that allows me to switch between
OSX and Windows without re-booting, so I can easily run the Windows
applications for which there are no Mac equivalent; like the Streets and
Trips map software. It's the best of both worlds.

If they traded the idiotic single button trackpad for an industry standard 2
button variety I'd buy one of those. Yeah, I know, there's tricks to get
around it, but I want my second button, just like *all* the competition
provides.[/QUOTE]

Haven't checked out the MacBooks, have you? They have a "two-finger"
right-button emulation mode that's really sweet -- better than a "real"
button because it's always right under your finger.

Plus, of course, multi-button mouses (mice?) are readily available.

Isaac
 
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