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Discussion in 'General Electronics Discussion' started by bcavan, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. Oct 18, 2017 #1
    bcavan

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    Hi, I am trying to power a Piezo Buzzer between 3.3VDC and 5VDC.
    The voltage is being adjusted so the sound is low (at 3.3VDC) and loud(at 5VDC).
    My attachment can be a little misleading. Alarm_low doesn't suggest the volume is low, just the number of beeps. Same holds true for Alarm_medium and Alarm_high.

    I'm trying to figure a way to add a circuit like a Voltage Controlled Voltage source as observed in my attachment. Can anyone offer some advice?

    Thanks,

    Brian
     

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  2. Oct 18, 2017 #2
    dorke

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    Welcome to EP.
    What specific Piezo Buzzer are you using?
     
  3. Oct 18, 2017 #3
    bcavan

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    Hi there, attached is the buzzer I'll be using.

    Thanks,

    Brian
     

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  4. Oct 18, 2017 #4
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    That datasheet doesn't indicate that a lower voltage will work, but I presume you've tried it yourself.

    What input signals will you use to set the voltage? Do you want to supply an equivalent voltage, or one of a couple of logic levels, or something else?

    A simple solution is to apply a voltage to the base of an npn transistor, where the collector is connected to the +ve supply and the load is between the emitter and ground. The voltage applied to the base is approximately 0.6V higher than that applied to the load.
     
  5. Oct 18, 2017 #5
    bcavan

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    Hi Steve, yes I tried it with lowering the voltage to about 3.3VDC and raising to 5VDC and it was clear the buzzer was louder at 5VDC. I have given more thought to using perhaps a PWM signal from the main controller. The main controller is a Windows 10 module (COMEX). My customer requested roughly four settings, High, Medium, Low and off. This gave me the idea of perhaps using a PWM signal from the comex module.

    I did contact the buzzer manufacturer and they did advise that lower the voltage to the buzzer from 3.3VDC to 5VDC will work fine. As I mentioned in my post, the question is how to do that effectively.
     
  6. Oct 18, 2017 #6
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    So, what signals do you have available?

    PWM will need to be filtered or it will modulate the sound from the buzzer.
     
  7. Oct 18, 2017 #7
    bcavan

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    I do have digital outputs available.
     
  8. Oct 18, 2017 #8
    (*steve*)

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    If you set up an adjustable 3 terminal regulator, you could use a couple of digital outputs to turn on or off a couple of MOSFETs which select the resistor between the adj pin and ground. This would allow you to digitally select the voltage passed to the buzzer.
     
  9. Oct 18, 2017 #9
    Alec_t

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    Here's an option for PWM control.
    The blue trace represents PWM duty cycle.
    PWM'edBuzzer.PNG
     
  10. Oct 18, 2017 #10
    dorke

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    This isn't a "simple buzzer".
    It is classified as a "Medical Alarm",it has a full length tune and repetition rate.
    You can hear the tune on this page.

    In the application information (pages 9-10) it is explained how to get the 4 states you need "Off,Low,Mid,High", simple enough.
     
  11. Oct 18, 2017 #11
    Alec_t

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    Aarghhh, I missed that :oops:. Good catch.
    So, three digital outputs suitably driven, plus some 1A rated output transistors (BJT or MOSFET), plus a couple of diodes will do the trick, and PWM isn't suitable.
     
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  12. Oct 18, 2017 #12
    (*steve*)

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    From what I understood, the difference in behaviour desired is different from that obtained by asserting the different signals on the alarm itself.
     
  13. Oct 19, 2017 #13
    Audioguru

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    Does a medical person need to learn the 20 melodies to determine the medical problem? They all sound like a buzzer. Why not have the device speak the medical problem in words like airplanes do? Pull Up- Terrain; Bank Angle; Stall etc.
     
  14. Oct 19, 2017 #14
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    "RETARD RETARD". <-- Why is the aircraft calling me retard?
     
  15. Oct 19, 2017 #15
    Alec_t

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    O.k. So PWM* could be used after all (per post #9), in combination with the mode selection (per post #11).

    Edit: Filtered PWM.
     
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  16. Oct 19, 2017 #16
    Audioguru

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    You should not use PWM on the alarm, you can use filtered PWM to set the voltage of an LM317 voltage regulator.
     
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