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Alan Rutlidge

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry Given said:
Phil Allison wrote:
Of course hooking the jacket of your video out RCA connector to, say,
Phase would be a fairly dangerous thing to do, but then so is poking a
knife into a toaster while its operating.

Well, you'd think Toaster Boi would know about that one. :p
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Alan Rutlidge" = The Rutmaniac Arse Bandit

See: http://www.advantra.net/contact_us.htm


The Rutmaniac Arse Bandit has **NEVER** told us how much money
that Thai pal he " imported " into Perth ripped off from his credit card
and bank accounts.

He has refused, over and over, to say why he never reported the crime his
Thai boy lover committed to his Bank or to the WA police.


** This post of his on " rec.travel asia " from Oct 11, 1997 explains the
event:

------------------------------­------------------------------­---


" WARNING - Tourism dangers for Gay Tourists in Thailand



In my case I was coerced into sponsoring a Thai into Australia. I was
lead down the garden path into a false sense of security about my
relationship with this person. His aim was clearly to get me to purswade
the Australian Embassy to grant him a visa. Once here I didn't exist after
he drained my bank account and ran my credit card into overdraft.


Alan Rutlidge (Perth Western Australia) "


----------------------------- ------------------------------------


** The 1997 date pretty much co-incidences with the enactment of
Section 50 BA of the Commonwealth Crimes Act.

This is the law that finally made engaging in or promoting under age
sex tourism a criminal offence - max penalty 17 years in jail.


BTW

The legal age of consent for gay males in WA in 1997 was 21 years old.


Come on - Arse Bandit - we all need to know if you were being
blackmailed.

BTW

I do not care how many of your vile, criminal colleagues you organise
to intimidate me.

It only makes you look so very much WORSE !!!



......... Phil
 
If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-

http://forum.aushifi.com/

..........a moderated forum that allows the posting of graphics, circuit
diagrams etc and avoids that flame wars that are destroying so many
newsgroups.
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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<[email protected]>


** Beware !!!!

The above halfwit is a female impersonator from northern Tasmania

Goes by the handle "Ayn Marx ".

Might as well be Groucho Marx !!!

If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-



** ROTFL !!

A very recently set up chat room for fuckwit audiophools, moderated by
control freaks & psychopaths !!

Go for it dudes ......




........ Phil
 
If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :- http://forum.aushifi.com/

..........a moderated forum that allows the posting of graphics, circuit

diagrams etc and avoids that flame wars that are destroying so many
newsgroups.
 
If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-
http://forum.aushifi.com/
.........a moderated forum that allows the posting of graphics,
circuit
diagrams etc and avoids that flame wars that are destroying so many
newsgroups.
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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<[email protected]>


** Beware !!!!

The above halfwit is a female impersonator from northern Tasmania

Goes by the handle "Ayn Marx ".

Might as well be Groucho Marx !!!

If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-



** ROTFL !!

A very recently set up chat room for fuckwit audiophools, moderated by
control freaks & psychopaths !!

Go for it dudes ......




........ Phil
 
If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-
http://forum.aushifi.com/
........................a moderated forum that allows the posting of
graphics, circuit
diagrams etc and avoids that flame wars that are destroying so many
newsgroups.
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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<[email protected]>


** Beware !!!!

The above halfwit is a female impersonator from northern Tasmania

Goes by the handle "Ayn Marx ".

Might as well be Groucho Marx !!!

If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-



** ROTFL !!

A very recently set up chat room for fuckwit audiophools, moderated by
control freaks & psychopaths !!

Go for it dudes ......




........ Phil
 
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Rob

Jan 1, 1970
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An interesting news article maybe.

"The dark side of the blogosphere was revealed by a libel action brought by
Michael Keith-Smith, a former Conservative party member who stood for Ukip
in Portsmouth North at the last election. He said he was moved to sue after
a woman with whom he was debating the merits of military action in Iraq
began a campaign of name-calling that started by describing him as "lard
brain" and culminated in falsely labelling him a "Nazi", a "racist bigot"
and a "nonce"."

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1737444,00.html



Yeah, I know kill-filing fixes most of the problem!
 
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Alan Rutlidge

Jan 1, 1970
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Nice try Toaster Boi, but your OT reply only goes to demonstrate just how
much you have managed to loose the plot.
Face it, you lost the debate entirely due to your incompetence and pig
headedness, so you feel your only recourse is to try to shift the spotlight
off of your pitifulness in a vain attempt of distraction. Too bad Toaster
Boi - you lost again. :)
 
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Ray

Jan 1, 1970
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If anyone wants to avoid all the agro here you're welcome over on Oz
Hi-Fi & HT :-
http://forum.aushifi.com/
........................a moderated forum that allows the posting of
graphics, circuit
diagrams etc and avoids that flame wars that are destroying so many
newsgroups.

Hey fuckwit, who's the pot calling the kettle black?

Bloody Audiorasps creating flame wars themselves by starting agro. :(
 
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The Real Andy

Jan 1, 1970
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<[email protected]>


** Beware !!!!

The above halfwit is a female impersonator from northern Tasmania

Goes by the handle "Ayn Marx ".

Might as well be Groucho Marx !!!





** ROTFL !!

A very recently set up chat room for fuckwit audiophools, moderated by
control freaks & psychopaths !!

Go for it dudes ......




....... Phil

I can faintly remember these behavioural traits from primary school
 
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GB

Jan 1, 1970
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Jasen Betts said:
what's the deal with laplink cables ?

If the connector shells at each end are connected together, they
can connect the frame earth of the two devices. Not always a good
thing.

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David, not to be confused with the other Davids.

Jan 1, 1970
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Shame I don't have time to play, but frankly I can't resist. I am going to
change the order the post in this reply.
** WAKE UP - YOU ASININE FUCKHEADS:

AS/NZ standards are ONLY for engineers, manufacturers and installers to
heed !!
Ordinary consumers are NOT aware of nor need to consider published standards
AT ALL !!

The laws of **negligence** certainly applies to them though.

Shame they does not apply to ANONYMOUS idiots posting
dangerous CRAPOLOGY !

I believe it does.

Negligence has to be proven. Way too complicated for this discussion.
Standards
form the basis of many contractual and legal principles. Just to keep on
topic, if
the OP modified the DVD player and added an earth, one of the (legal) tests
that
could be applied when gathering evidence is whether that modification
contravened
the principles of the relevant electrical safety standard.
The potential shock hazard issue with class 2 and class items mixed in a
home entertainment system is all about what *ordinary consumers* do - at
home !!

I am going to wind this back to the OPs point about earthing the enclosure,
that is
earthing externally accessible conductive parts to eliminate the effects of
touch current. Since Phil finds direct references too pedantic I shall keep it
very simple.

When assessing the insulation and construction methods of almost any Class 2
product all accessible conductive surfaces are considered to be conected to
earth
for the purpose of the assessment. Basically this simulates them being touched
by
a person or being placed in contact with other earthed apparatus.

Insulation working voltage, component rated voltages, etc all all determined
by "earthing" the circuit or part in a way that results in the highest working
voltage appearing across insulation systems. Non-conductive parts have a
section of foil (earthed via a resistor) pressed against them.

To look at it another way, the Class 2 product has to remain safe with an earth
connected to any accessible part of it. Inputs and outputs that are not
considered
"Hazardous Live" are also tested this way (such as RCA type I/O jacks).

Amplifier outputs are often classed as Hazardous Live circuits and as part of
the
abnormal and fault tolerance clauses in standards, these could also be earthed
to
ensure insulation systems do not fail and no fire hazard arises. This is a
separate
topic to earthing the enclosure.

If the OP is still reading this which I doubt, have the units checked by
someone who does "test and tag". If the touch (leakage) current is less than
0.25 mA then the tingle is normal (for some people). If you earth the
enclosure
you might wind up with hum and noise in the system but it should not cause you
any harm.
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Jasen Betts" = just another anencephalic Kiwi
And that would be a problem how?


** Read the whole thread - FUCKWIT !

says you...


** My copy of AS 3100 says so as well.

" It will be apparent that double-insulated appliance built in accordance
with these principles must not be earthed."

It also says the "Double Insulated - Do Not Earth " warning is compulsory.


and connecting what's that bad thing that going to happen by connecting my
VCR and DVD player to my ancient TV (Phillips K9ii) which has an eathed
antenna connector.


** If you actually ever learn to read one day, Jasen, it will be a
miracle.

" Earthed" = " mains earthed" = connected to the AC ground via a standard
3 pin plug and 3 pin outlet.




........ Phil
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Terry Given"
gee, here I was thinking


** No sign of that in your posts - ever.




** Bad idea for them to do anything that is dangerous to others or for
anyone to encourage them to do it.

its a moot point from an engineering perspective. These are the same
idiots that drive drunk, rob gas stations without covering their faces
etc, all of which are not just stupid and illegal, but criminal.


** That is just about the most asinine thing I have seen on this NG.

Terry Given = a rabid, psychotic, bloody lunatic.

I feel sorry for all those poor sheep.





.......... Phil
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"David, the TOTAL IDIOT "

I believe it does.


** The "anonymous" bit would be a problem - FUCKWIT !!


Negligence has to be proven. Way too complicated for this discussion.


** It is the whole basis of the matter - you ASS.


I am going to wind this back to the OPs point about earthing the
enclosure,


** Wrong issue.

That is another matter.




......... Phil
 
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