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Static Magnetic Strength and CNS effects

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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi:

How strong [in Oersted] does a static magnetic field to have any
noticeable affects on the central nervous system?


Thanks,

Radium
 
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Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
Hi:

How strong [in Oersted] does a static magnetic field to have any
noticeable affects on the central nervous system?

Several Teslas (you do the conversion) according to what I have read ...
subjects report flashing lights, smells, and other sensations. I have run
across it several times in various publications (e.g. Scientific American,
Discover ...).
 
Charles said:
Several Teslas (you do the conversion) according to what I have read ...
subjects report flashing lights, smells, and other sensations. I have run
across it several times in various publications (e.g. Scientific American,
Discover ...).


One guy claims that the dynamic field from rotating neodymium magnets
has a strong effect:

Spinning magnets get you high?!!
http://tinyurl.com/c9e8e
 
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Sjouke Burry

Jan 1, 1970
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Charles Schuler wrote:





One guy claims that the dynamic field from rotating neodymium magnets
has a strong effect:

Spinning magnets get you high?!!
http://tinyurl.com/c9e8e
Have one hanging from the ceiling, as a compass,
6 magnets in a row, and extremely srtong.
No effect whatsoever, even spinning very fast.
 
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Bob Masta

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi:

How strong [in Oersted] does a static magnetic field to have any
noticeable affects on the central nervous system?

I have no idea about a *static* field, but I bet it would have to
be extremely high. MRI machines apply a really high static
field... anyone heard of reported effects? As far as I know,
all the reported effects of magnetic fields are dynamic, as in
direct trans-cranial stimulation.

Best regards,



Bob Masta
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J.A.Legris

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob said:
Hi:

How strong [in Oersted] does a static magnetic field to have any
noticeable affects on the central nervous system?

I have no idea about a *static* field, but I bet it would have to
be extremely high. MRI machines apply a really high static
field... anyone heard of reported effects? As far as I know,
all the reported effects of magnetic fields are dynamic, as in
direct trans-cranial stimulation.

Maybe yes...

http://www.vet.purdue.edu/cpr/riyi/papers/2004_CootsetalJNeurolSci.pdf

maybe no...

http://www.radiology.osu.edu/pdfs/faculty_pdfs/Chakeres_pdfs/neuro.pdf
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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J.A.Legris said:
Bob said:
Hi:

How strong [in Oersted] does a static magnetic field to have any
noticeable affects on the central nervous system?

I have no idea about a *static* field, but I bet it would have to
be extremely high. MRI machines apply a really high static
field... anyone heard of reported effects? As far as I know,
all the reported effects of magnetic fields are dynamic, as in
direct trans-cranial stimulation.

Maybe yes...

http://www.vet.purdue.edu/cpr/riyi/papers/2004_CootsetalJNeurolSci.pdf

maybe no...

http://www.radiology.osu.edu/pdfs/faculty_pdfs/Chakeres_pdfs/neuro.pdf

Which one is correct?

How would my central nervous system be affected if it was exposed to a
static magnetic field that has a strength of 10^200 gigaOersted? Yes,
that is 10-to-the-power-200 billion Oersted.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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How would my central nervous system be affected if it was exposed to a
static magnetic field that has a strength of 10^200 gigaOersted? Yes,
that is 10-to-the-power-200 billion Oersted.

How would you create such a field?
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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Homer said:
How would you create such a field?

In theory its possible. In practice, however, its not gonna happen. I
was asking a hypothetical question.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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In theory its possible. In practice, however, its not gonna happen. I
was asking a hypothetical question.

Hypothetically you could levitate a human being with a strong enough field.
At that point your nervous system would have more to worry about.
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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Homer said:
Hypothetically you could levitate a human being with a strong enough field.
Yes.

At that point your nervous system would have more to worry about.

Of course. But what exactly would happen to the CNS if it was exposed
to a static magnetic field that has a strength of 10^200 gigaOersted?
 
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Eric Gisse

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
Of course. But what exactly would happen to the CNS if it was exposed
to a static magnetic field that has a strength of 10^200 gigaOersted?

Why do you keep asking stupid questions?
 
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jasen

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course. But what exactly would happen to the CNS if it was exposed
to a static magnetic field that has a strength of 10^200 gigaOersted?

since that'd line all the haemoglobin up and fix it in position the CNS
would experience anoxia.

why say 10^200 gigaOerstead instead of 10^209 Oersteaad ?

Bye.
Jasen
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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jasen said:
since that'd line all the haemoglobin up and fix it in position the CNS
would experience anoxia.

why say 10^200 gigaOerstead instead of 10^209 Oersteaad ?

Bye.
Jasen

Wouldn't the incredibly strong magnetic field directly affect the
electric signals in the CNS?

Static magnetic fields can generate electric current in any motile
conductors -- including humans.
 
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Ron Capik

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
< ...snip.. >

Wouldn't the incredibly strong magnetic field directly affect the
electric signals in the CNS?

Static magnetic fields can generate electric current in any motile
conductors -- including humans.

Lots of things in extreme effect lots of things.
So what's your point?

--
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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Ron said:
Lots of things in extreme effect lots of things.
So what's your point?

--

Electricity has extreme effects on the body at only petawatts.

Magnetism needs more than a 100 gigawatts in order to affect the body
and even then, then effects aren't directly noticeable to the subject.

I'd like to hear of a case where magnetism directly affected the body
and caused some significant ramifications -- good or bad. I haven't
heard of any such cases in my life. That is why I am asking an wierd
question about massive amount of magnetic energy and its effects on the
human body.
 
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Radium

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
Electricity has extreme effects on the body at only petawatts.

OOPS. That should have been femtowatts!

Electricty at level much smaller than petawatts could vaporize a human.

Sorry! F--king typos!!!!!!!
 
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Ron Capik

Jan 1, 1970
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Radium said:
Electricity has extreme effects on the body at only petawatts.

Magnetism needs more than a 100 gigawatts in order to affect the body
and even then, then effects aren't directly noticeable to the subject.

I'd like to hear of a case where magnetism directly affected the body
and caused some significant ramifications -- good or bad. I haven't
heard of any such cases in my life. That is why I am asking an wierd
question about massive amount of magnetic energy and its effects on the
human body.

You've been mixing fields and power and charge and flux density
and statics and dynamics...
Maybe you should get your units straight, then maybe work on
concepts and such.......

Then maybe you can propose a working thesis and build from there.
 
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Matthew Kirkcaldie

Jan 1, 1970
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Ron Capik said:
Lots of things in extreme effect lots of things.
So what's your point?

Don't waste your time, the poster is a juvenile troll with just enough
knowledge to snare people with a genuine desire to help.
 
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