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message : Roger has been listening to those who have a nice tidy
explanation of
: everything. Sometime you want to try to explain to him how come
our lettuce
: is so cheap.
As opposed to Fred, who makes up the numbers and decides
everything on his personal bias.
: "Roger Gt" wrote
: ...
: > Is that why 18% of inmates in the Oregon prison system are
: > illegals? Nearly one third of petty criminals in Southern Ca
are also
: > illegals.
:
: Actually, this probably has more to do with the great public
defender they
: are likely to get.
At taxpayer expense and THAT is another cost of their criminal
activity.
: > You haven't got the perspective! They sleep on the streets
and
: > hang out at businesses hoping to be offered work and have
: > destroyed whole neighborhoods.
:
: Well, I lived down in Orange County CA for a long time.
Sure happy to hear you are gone.
: I must admit that
: there are some offensive things going on, but most of the
illegals I know
: about are not the quintessential Hobos of our modern society.
Too much risk
: in coming above "the man's" radar. They hang with their extended
families,
: and out in the farming districts where they get seasonal work.
Big
: population in Colorado for some reason.
I agree, not all are hobos, but then I didn't use that word. And
the hobos were not criminals either!
: > The problem is spreading and it is
: > really bad the nearer you get to the boarder. Farmers along
the
: > border have their crops and equipment stolen or spoiled and
have
: > to maintain a security patrol to keep their homes from being
: > broken into. These people are criminals and do not respect
any
: > laws.
:
: Beg pardon. These people, except for course for the drug mules
that we pay
: to bring us our cheap drugs, are the brightest, best, and most
ambitious of
: a seriously abused population. We might solve 90% of our
problems, at the
: cost of a bit more expensive lettuce, by making them semi legals
and
: preventing their abuse.
I grow my own lettuce, it is an easy crop. Like Chard and many
other vegetables. Good home crops. I know no one who uses drugs,
except Fred, and if these are the brightest and best what a
cesspool they must come from. They should fix their own problems
where they come from, but they would rather sponge off the US.
Deporting is the least sever solution. It would actually solve
many problems.
: ... (subject. Paying taxes.)
: > Not then, nor now! They are a major burden on the state to the
: > tune of about $4b a year!
:
: Whew! Is that all? They are responsible for around 12 billion in
company
: proffits, of which they get around 3 billion, and out of that
they pay
: around half billion in sales taxes. Actually I expect their
employers
: collect federal and state tax from their salary, and pay it to
themselves. I
: think that overall our illegal emegrants likely provide us more
benifit than
: cost, and on top of that they are such an easy target for racial
and
: cultural hatred. Easy to blame our total failure to provide for
our own poor
: by calling them all illegals because some few are, horror of
horrors, unable
: to get legally admitted to our official version of heaven.
:
: BTB, I just made up the numbers for the heck of it. Sounds
reasonable to me,
: so find better ones.
For those that do not know Fred, he is great at making up numbers
and metaphor's to redefine a problem to fit his biased view.
Works for him, ticks everyone else off!
