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muashr

Feb 11, 2014
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Hi,

I have a question regarding the sub section of a power supply.

Background: I have two similar power supplies one is functioning whereas the other one is not functioning. The functioning one can output variable dc voltage from +(0 - 20)V. The nonfunctioning power supply can only deliver -4V at the output.

The sub circuit about which I have a question is at the output. Both supplies have similar sub circuit. This sub circuit consists of a transistor the base/gate of that transistor is connected in series with a red LED, this red LED is connected to a 1.5k SMD resistor and other end of this 1.5k is connected to a source point of +27V.

Both LEDs were tested in their corresponding sub circuits when the power was off and they appeared to be ok (Vf = +1.7V). Now the problem is that when the power is on the base/gate of the malfunctioning transistor gets only +0.1V whereas the base/gate of the functioning transistor gets +25V. Also the red LED of the malfunctioning power supply is on whereas that of the functioning remains off.

The voltage measured (with respect to ground) on the path/trace which joins LED and 1.5k SMD resistor is as follows.

Functioning Supply: +27v
Malfunctioning Supply: +2.2V

On measuring the voltage drop across these red LEDs following results are obtained.

Functioning Supply: -4V (red lead @ anode & black @ cathode) & +2.3V (black lead @ anode & red lead @ cathode)
Malfunctioning Supply: +2.1V (red lead @ anode & black @ cathode) & -2.1V (black lead @ anode & red lead @ cathode)

My question is whether or not LEDs are also used as some kind of fuses? If not, then what is your opinion about this situation?
 

KrisBlueNZ

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A picture paints a thousand words. How about uploading some schematics.
 

Rleo6965

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Your lucky. You still have 1 functioning unit for resistance test comparison.
 

shrtrnd

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What KrisBlueNZ said.
It sounds to me like you're dealing with a 'crowbar' circuit. It's designed to limit (effectively reduce the output voltage) if an overload condition exists.
The crowbar circuit itself can fail, resulting in a continuous limit of the power supply output that otherwise can't be explained.
Without looking at the circut, and only hearing the symptoms; that'd be my first guess.
But it's only a guess at this point.
Good luck troubleshooting the problem.
 
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