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Reading packages of breakfast cereals in a store - great, I'm
thinking, they are putting no sugar in these. Must be the new and
improved labeling approved with the new food pyramid . . . finally
healthy food . . . until I read further.

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane juice"


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[Phil Allison]

"default"

Reading packages of breakfast cereals in a store - great, I'm
thinking, they are putting no sugar in these. Must be the new and
improved labeling approved with the new food pyramid . . . finally
healthy food . . . until I read further.

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane juice"

** A rose by any other name ....





........ Phil

 

[Michael Black]

default ([email protected]) writes:

Well bozo, if it's off-topic then don't post here.

Michael

 

[john jardine]

Reading packages of breakfast cereals in a store - great, I'm
thinking, they are putting no sugar in these. Must be the new and
improved labeling approved with the new food pyramid . . . finally
healthy food . . . until I read further.

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane juice"

And cosmetics (usually expensive), may contain upto 95% "Aqua".

 

[Paul E. Schoen]

default ([email protected]) writes:

Well bozo, if it's off-topic then don't post here.

Michael

Considering the crap that's posted so frequently, I see no need to complain
about a properly identified OT post. For those who feel a kinship with
other regulars on a NG, it seems appropriate to be able to discuss
something like this.

Paul

 

[amdx]

Reading packages of breakfast cereals in a store - great, I'm
thinking, they are putting no sugar in these. Must be the new and
improved labeling approved with the new food pyramid . . . finally
healthy food . . . until I read further.

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane juice"

Or corn syrup, sucrose, fructose, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup.
I just looked on the hersheys syrup, the first 4 ingredients are,
high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, sugar, water, and last, cocoa.
Mike

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Or corn syrup, sucrose, fructose, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup.
I just looked on the hersheys syrup, the first 4 ingredients are,
high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, sugar, water, and last, cocoa.

Check out Mrs. Butterworth's or Aunt Jemima's 'Maple' syrup sometime!

 

[[email protected]]

Reading packages of breakfast cereals in a store - great, I'm
thinking, they are putting no sugar in these. Must be the new and
improved labeling approved with the new food pyramid . . . finally
healthy food . . . until I read further.

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane juice"

How much is added?
Remember the amount is the poison.
Cane juice is much the same as fruit juice.
Of course, what does the crystallisation process reject.
Refined cane sugar is "bad" because they have "refined"
some of the valuable nutrients out of it.
Energy is an essential nutrient.
Too much is harmful, like in so many things.
jack

 

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Or corn syrup, sucrose, fructose, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup.
I just looked on the hersheys syrup, the first 4 ingredients are,
high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, sugar, water, and last, cocoa.
Mike

Have a look at what is in apple or pear juice. BTW, fructose has an
advantage over glucose that it is absorbed more slowly, but it still
contains the same amount of energy. jack

ps Too much energy (calories), protein, water, fat will cause you
harm, even if you do get all the nutrients you require.

 

[C. Nick Kruzer]

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane
juice"

I found on the label of a vitamin tonic made in Mexico and marketed in
USA, an ingredient called "1,1,1-trimethylxanthine" which is the
chemical name for caffeine!

 

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I found on the label of a vitamin tonic made in Mexico and marketed in
USA, an ingredient called "1,1,1-trimethylxanthine" which is the
chemical name for caffeine!

Hi Nick
You have changed the subject line and messed up the threading so that
on my reader, your message is an orphan.

Manufacturers who try to bamboozle customers with different names for
ingredients have a powerful enemy in Google. A quick search shows
their subterfuge. I believe anything sold in Australia with caffeine
must be warned about on the label.
jack

 

[John Larkin]

Reading packages of breakfast cereals in a store - great, I'm
thinking, they are putting no sugar in these. Must be the new and
improved labeling approved with the new food pyramid . . . finally
healthy food . . . until I read further.

No sugar - instead they have "crystallized cane juice"

Big improvement over corn syrup.

There are lots of weird expressions for MSG.

John

 

[John Larkin]

default ([email protected]) writes:

Well bozo, if it's off-topic then don't post here.

Michael

Who the hell is Michael Black?

John

 

[John Larkin]

Or corn syrup, sucrose, fructose, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup.
I just looked on the hersheys syrup, the first 4 ingredients are,
high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, sugar, water, and last, cocoa.
Mike

But sugar tastes better, and is healthier. Around here, you can buy a
corn-syrup American Coke for a dollar, or a smuggled Mexican Coke,
made with real sugar, for $1.50.

Hershey's is crap, of course.

John

 

[Eeyore]

But sugar tastes better, and is healthier. Around here, you can buy a
corn-syrup American Coke for a dollar, or a smuggled Mexican Coke,
made with real sugar, for $1.50.

Strictly scientifically, there is no such single thing as 'sugar' though. Many
chemicals are sugars though.

The nice taste is usually due the flavour of the non-sugar content from any
given source. Maple syrup and cane sugar seem to excel in this regard.

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

How much is added?
Remember the amount is the poison.

There's nothing poisonous about sugar, unless you mainline it.

Cane juice is much the same as fruit juice.

Of course, what does the crystallisation process reject.

A very little amount of brownish stuff. Turbinado sugar, evaporated
directly from cane juice, is very pale brown and tastes close to
refined sugar.

Refined cane sugar is "bad" because they have "refined"
some of the valuable nutrients out of it.

Valuable nutrients? In sugarcane juice? Can you name some?

Energy is an essential nutrient.

No, it is not.

John

 

[Fermi]

Valuable nutrients? In sugarcane juice? Can you name some?

riboflavin
niacin - B3
vitamin B6
folate
pantothenic acid - B5
calcium
copper
iron
magnesium
manganese
phosphorus
potassium
selenium
zinc

Once most of the sugar is crystallised out of sugarcane juice the remainder
is sold as black strap molasses. It is very high in nutients, one
tablespoon has approx. 20% of the daily requirement of calcium, magnesium,
potassium and iron.

 

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But sugar tastes better,

To you, perhaps, not me.

and is healthier

Than what? Certainly not any other sugar. It's the calories (in
excess) that is unhealthy. Your body makes the equivalent of HFCS from
ingested sugar (sucrose) in very short order.
To be honest, saccharine tastes better to me, but it's amazing what
one can get used to
jack

 

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Strictly scientifically, there is no such single thing as 'sugar' though. Many
chemicals are sugars though.

The nice taste is usually due the flavour of the non-sugar content from any
given source. Maple syrup and cane sugar seem to excel in this regard.

Graham

Australians generally mean sucrose when they say sugar (Macquarie
Dictionary).

Taste is very subjective. As I mentioned in another post, I, unusually
perhaps, prefer saccharine to other sweeteners. jack

 

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There's nothing poisonous about sugar, unless you mainline it.

That's an expression. The "poison" referred to is the harm. Excess
calories certainly can do you harm

Sucrose <> fructose.

Not sure what this means, but sucrose is a disaccharide made up of the
two simple sugars glucose and fructose in equimolecular proportion.
The body breaks sucrose down to these simple constituents rather
quickly. Fruit juices contain very roughly ~10% of sugars which
coincidentally is much the same as soft drinks like coke.
High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is very roughly an equal proportion of
glucose and fructose. Much the same as honey.
BTW, fructose is just "a" sugar in fruits, not the only one, in case
this is what your code means above.

And lots of people drink fruit juice, but few
drink cane juice, unless it's converted to rum first.

And how does this matter? Do you know what all the people in the world
are in the habit of drinking?

A very little amount of brownish stuff. Turbinado sugar, evaporated
directly from cane juice, is very pale brown and tastes close to
refined sugar.

Is this the stuff that they are putting into this product?
The brownish stuff contains many micronutrients, BTW

Valuable nutrients? In sugarcane juice? Can you name some?

Potassium, calcium, magnesium, iron, phosphorus, antioxidants, various
vitamins. You could look it up. I have, in the past, so have little
motivation to do it again

No, it is not.

So can you show evidence of one individual who can live indefinitely
on a daily multivitamin tablet, 25g of essential amino acids, a few
miligrams of the essential fatty acids and water, ad libitum?
An Indian fakir, perhaps?

No, sorry, energy is absolutely essential for animals. I know of none
that can photosynthesise, and even then, plants need light energy.
Carbon dioxide is also essential to them for growth. jack