Is this the beginning of fiscal responsibility

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life. But this sequester comes at the wrong time, and it is a bit too

drastic, so it will have a chilling effect on the economy. We really needto

consider a "prosperous way down", and work to achieve it gradually and

There is never a bad time for a sequester. The federal employment is not real employment. DoD can stand a minimum of 50%-75% reduction in personnel, that department has been a cash cow for pork barrel politicians since the end of WWII, they won't be missed and everyone knows it. And as for these fake little communities out in the middle of nowhere dependent entirely on Defense spending, they can just fold, the people moved there for the jobs to begin with so now they can just move somewhere else for work. This is a sickcountry.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

Huh? The self-sufficient folks in Pennsylvania and surroundings will
have 5-6 children within a rather short time. Per family, which is still
a self-sufficient entity.

Family? I thought it took a village.

 

[Joerg]

Family? I thought it took a village.

They share some functions for convenience, for example metal processing.
But in essence each family can supply themselves.

Except when it comes to courting, where dudes will venture out into
neighboring villages just like it's always been

 

[mkr5000]

really? you mean the mess they INHERITED?

do you read?

check the facts moeron.

 

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The Amish _are_ self-sufficient.

Dunno, they seem to do a lot trade with the outside. I have a house
full of their furniture,comforters, and such. It's made in the USA,
too! ;-)

 

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Jim Thompson wrote:
P E Schoen wrote:

[...]


... rather than having this reality slap us hard
upside the head.

Americans have managed to survive the 2% payroll tax increase without
much of a sweat and we did not go into the abyss. I fully expect the
government to perform the same now.


http://prosperouswaydown.com/

The link doesn't work, just sits there and then times out.

It works, just not for you >:-}

It's only a slyly written anti-energy piece... so nothing lost.


Now it works here as well, maybe something was stuck at my ISP. Anyhow,
not a very useful link IMHO. I agree that we will have to make do with
less in the future, in many ways. There is no way around it. But an ever
increasing spending apparatutus and increasing taxes are _not_ the path
to success of any kind.

The only thing we need to do with less of is liberals. Dispose of all
of them, then restart the country as one composed of self-sufficient
individuals.

who can afford to pay their own college tuition.

Yet many do.

 

[Joerg]

Dunno, they seem to do a lot trade with the outside. I have a house
full of their furniture,comforters, and such. It's made in the USA,
too! ;-)

That does not mean lack of self-sufficiency. Trade is a good thing. If
you can produce excess of something, why not do it and make a buck?

They typically do not rely on government and it would be good if a lot
of people in America looked at them for guidance, at least in that respect.

 

[cameo]

Well, they still use the roads but I was using a different definition
of "self sufficient", I suppose. They *do* rely on trade with
"outsiders".

They also cause this sound:

Clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop, bang, bang, clip-clop,
clip-clop ...

Guess what that is.

 

[cameo]

There is never a bad time for a sequester. The federal employment is not real employment. DoD can stand a minimum of 50%-75% reduction in personnel, that department has been a cash cow for pork barrel politicians since the end of WWII, they won't be missed and everyone knows it. And as for these fake little communities out in the middle of nowhere dependent entirely on Defense spending, they can just fold, the people moved there for the jobs to begin with so now they can just move somewhere else for work. This is a sick country.

Here is some added humor to the sequester debate that also shows the
stupidity of typical Obama voters, thanks to Jimmy Kimmel, a big Obama
supporter:

<http://www.indecisionforever.com/blog/2013/03/05/tuesdays-links-jimmy-kimmels-sequester-stories>

 

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On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:38:57 -0700, Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote:
P E Schoen wrote:

[...]


... rather than having this reality slap us hard
upside the head.

Americans have managed to survive the 2% payroll tax increase without
much of a sweat and we did not go into the abyss. I fully expect the
government to perform the same now.


http://prosperouswaydown.com/

The link doesn't work, just sits there and then times out.

It works, just not for you >:-}

It's only a slyly written anti-energy piece... so nothing lost.


Now it works here as well, maybe something was stuck at my ISP. Anyhow,
not a very useful link IMHO. I agree that we will have to make do with
less in the future, in many ways. There is no way around it. But an ever
increasing spending apparatutus and increasing taxes are _not_ the path
to success of any kind.

The only thing we need to do with less of is liberals. Dispose of all
of them, then restart the country as one composed of self-sufficient
individuals.

who can afford to pay their own college tuition.

Yet many do.

Jim didn't.

I did, but that's almost as long ago as Jim. My son is doing it now
(gets his BA, finally, in August).

 

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Probably not orthodox Amish. There's another sect that, for instance,

allows buttons on their clothes, have telephones and participate in

business activities.... can't remember what they're called, haven't

lived back there for 55 years.

Mennonites- but the Amish separated from them and not vice versa.

 

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Dunno, they seem to do a lot trade with the outside. I have a house

full of their furniture,comforters, and such. It's made in the USA,

too! ;-)

Bull- it's a bunch of reproduction whacky-sect Shaker junk, and not made in USA, it's made in Usa, Shandong Province, PRC.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

They also cause this sound:

Clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop, bang, bang, clip-clop,
clip-clop ...

Guess what that is.

Amish drive-by shooting.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

 

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Probably not orthodox Amish.

Yes, orthodox. Buggies and everything. I asked one of the owners
about the incongruity. The issue wasn't technology, rather
convenience. They had no issue with technology at all. Business was
business.

 

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On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:32:04 -0800 (PST),

Bull- it's a bunch of reproduction whacky-sect Shaker junk, and not made in USA, it's made in Usa, Shandong Province, PRC.

This just proves you're the idiot everyone here knows you to be.

 

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On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:02:52 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:54:41 -0800, John Larkin

On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:38:57 -0700, Jim Thompson

Jim Thompson wrote:
P E Schoen wrote:

[...]


... rather than having this reality slap us hard
upside the head.

Americans have managed to survive the 2% payroll tax increase without
much of a sweat and we did not go into the abyss. I fully expect the
government to perform the same now.


http://prosperouswaydown.com/

The link doesn't work, just sits there and then times out.

It works, just not for you >:-}

It's only a slyly written anti-energy piece... so nothing lost.


Now it works here as well, maybe something was stuck at my ISP. Anyhow,
not a very useful link IMHO. I agree that we will have to make do with
less in the future, in many ways. There is no way around it. But an ever
increasing spending apparatutus and increasing taxes are _not_ the path
to success of any kind.

The only thing we need to do with less of is liberals. Dispose of all
of them, then restart the country as one composed of self-sufficient
individuals.

who can afford to pay their own college tuition.

Yet many do.

Jim didn't.

I did, but that's almost as long ago as Jim. My son is doing it now
(gets his BA, finally, in August).

Larkin just can't resist being an asshole, implying I got an
undeserved free ride.

No, you inferred that.

 

[josephkk]

Who is introducing the multi-spacing mess?

...Jim Thompson

Google groups of course. Nor do they care, let alone to fix it.
Webshitheads: If it ain't the web it don't exist.

?-)

 

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This just proves you're the idiot everyone here knows you to be.

Nah, yet another post from a wannabe sage who doesn't know that Shaker is the style of choice reproduced by Amish cottage industry. I mean, really, did you think they would be making Louis XV on the farm? That is rhetorical, don't answer, everyone has heard about enough from you.

 

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The Republicans are looking better not worse. Democrats only wanted more
of the same that got the country in this mess in the first place.



Uh, the Democrats ran the MERS program to allow for the trading of
credit default swaps? I don't think so.

The GOP looks like the douche bags that they are.

So now that Hagel is sec def. it is about time to **** over Arizona.

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"America"

 

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They approve controlling the deficit, but not just by spending cuts. Most
people (the 99%) also want more revenue even if it involves higher taxes
(mostly on the 1%). Not surprising. But that's how a democracy works.


They may be ignorant and/or apathetic (I don't know and I don't care), but
they ARE the majority, and will ultimately determine public policy unless
big money can influence (bribe) more members of congress. Our senators and
representatives do NOT reflect the will of the majority of human citizens
(not the corporate "Citizens United" crap).


It is in relation to the GDP, which has been improving at a healthy rate

Nope. GDP growth has been awful.

due to deficit spending.

Suppose we burned down New York and rebuilt it. GDP would soar. But
New York's reconstruction wouldn't produce any sort of progress,
increased national wealth, or long-term employment. It re-allocates
the nation's energy to a non-productive purpose (i.e., artificially to
construction, instead of whatever else we could have produced.) And
it'd be rough on New York, too.

It takes a while for the spending (an investment,
really) to be reflected in the economy, and as it improves, revenues
increase.

Deficit spending sucks money out of the economy producing short-term
unproductive activity (perversely credited to GDP), long-term
unemployment through dislocations/disrupting productive activity, and
long-term debt.