insignia tv, a lament and a problem!

[freestonew]

hi all....

Here I will lament a bit over my tv experiences!

I was at the local best buy store last week, and I saw two televisions
on sale.

One was a Toshiba 24", the other was one of their Insignia housbrands,
no reviews on *this* one anywheres, a true "pig in a poke"!

Both had component, s-1 video, progressive.

I first went with the Toshiba, it ranks up there near the top, i
discovered, for picture quality.
rate of rapairs too.
ahem!
it is very very hard for me to check out the picture in a crowded store
with 40 tvs all around me! i tried my best there, and i bought it.

I set it up.
I play only ps2, xbox, and other console games on whatever tv that i
would end up with, thus i need to sit closer to the set than of someone
who watches, say, a movie.
I sat to play a ps2 game. Within about 5 to 10 minutes my eyes felt
like they had been dragged though sand! Oh the eyestrain!! I went to
bed, now, at 9 Pm. even the next morning my eyes felt terrible, and
for half the day too!!

[i recall when the very first color tvs came out, most of them had it
where even ten minutes of watching, i would be nearly blind for an hour
afterwards!]

I returned this set. Oh the picture, even at s-1 video, was
incredible! so clear, nearly 3-D!
But at a terrible price.

I then got full credit on my return, best buy now has their act much
much better together, when i returned it.
i then now have the Insignia 27". the picture is "so-so". OK, not
great. but i can actually LOOK at the screen for an hour and it is as
if i was watching a blank wall, no eye trouble at all.

[I had found that the slyvania series also is good for my eyes, maybe
there are more out there, probably all of the Sony tvs are also off
limits to me too, another good rated picture tv.

so here i lament that i have to watch a so so tv, rather than a good
tv, and i bet i am only one of the few people with this vision problem!
it is the "tube' itself, not the content or the motion on the screen,
that does this to me.

I wonder how long this Insignia will last, compared to sony-toshibia?
i am afraid to find out!

there are no reviews on this huge 100 lb monster of a tv.

but i can live with it, even though there IS a slight problem that
seems to be with this tv.

there is a faint stationary moire/herringbone pattern over the whole
screen and it appears only in dark areas of my games and in component
and s-1 video. not on the snowy tv channels.
i have tried to plug directly in the wall, make sure all other
electronics are off, no good, it is still there, this pattern does not
move. I live on the 5th floor facing a mile away a formidible police
radio tower, one over 100 foot tall. my senior center of 160
residents, the am band is full of circuit noise from the electric
circuits, and the radio fm picks up all of the noise of the antenna.
maybe though it is an adjustment inside of the set i need to make, but
i cannot just carry a 100 lb set back for repairs even under the year
warrentee, i have no car!

is there any way that i can remove this pattern from my screen easily?!

I found somewheres the service code for the 20" insignia, maybe there
is a service code for this one, [the same one?!], that can fix or
adjust this?

ah well....

maybe someone here can help with my morie and share any info on the
insignia tv series!

thanks...freestone

 

[b]

hi all....

Here I will lament a bit over my tv experiences!

I was at the local best buy store last week, and I saw two televisions
on sale.

One was a Toshiba 24", the other was one of their Insignia housbrands,
no reviews on *this* one anywheres, a true "pig in a poke"!

Both had component, s-1 video, progressive.

I first went with the Toshiba, it ranks up there near the top, i
discovered, for picture quality.
rate of rapairs too.
ahem!
it is very very hard for me to check out the picture in a crowded store
with 40 tvs all around me! i tried my best there, and i bought it.

I set it up.
I play only ps2, xbox, and other console games on whatever tv that i
would end up with, thus i need to sit closer to the set than of someone
who watches, say, a movie.
I sat to play a ps2 game. Within about 5 to 10 minutes my eyes felt
like they had been dragged though sand! Oh the eyestrain!! I went to
bed, now, at 9 Pm. even the next morning my eyes felt terrible, and
for half the day too!!

[i recall when the very first color tvs came out, most of them had it
where even ten minutes of watching, i would be nearly blind for an hour
afterwards!]

I returned this set. Oh the picture, even at s-1 video, was
incredible! so clear, nearly 3-D!
But at a terrible price.

I then got full credit on my return, best buy now has their act much
much better together, when i returned it.
i then now have the Insignia 27". the picture is "so-so". OK, not
great. but i can actually LOOK at the screen for an hour and it is as
if i was watching a blank wall, no eye trouble at all.

[I had found that the slyvania series also is good for my eyes, maybe
there are more out there, probably all of the Sony tvs are also off
limits to me too, another good rated picture tv.

so here i lament that i have to watch a so so tv, rather than a good
tv, and i bet i am only one of the few people with this vision problem!
it is the "tube' itself, not the content or the motion on the screen,
that does this to me.

I wonder how long this Insignia will last, compared to sony-toshibia?
i am afraid to find out!

there are no reviews on this huge 100 lb monster of a tv.

but i can live with it, even though there IS a slight problem that
seems to be with this tv.

there is a faint stationary moire/herringbone pattern over the whole
screen and it appears only in dark areas of my games and in component
and s-1 video. not on the snowy tv channels.
i have tried to plug directly in the wall, make sure all other
electronics are off, no good, it is still there, this pattern does not
move. I live on the 5th floor facing a mile away a formidible police
radio tower, one over 100 foot tall. my senior center of 160
residents, the am band is full of circuit noise from the electric
circuits, and the radio fm picks up all of the noise of the antenna.
maybe though it is an adjustment inside of the set i need to make, but
i cannot just carry a 100 lb set back for repairs even under the year
warrentee, i have no car!

is there any way that i can remove this pattern from my screen easily?!

I found somewheres the service code for the 20" insignia, maybe there
is a service code for this one, [the same one?!], that can fix or
adjust this?

ah well....

maybe someone here can help with my morie and share any info on the
insignia tv series!

thanks...freestone

not strictly an answer to your problem i know, but regarding the
eyestrain with the toshiba: I hope you tried reducing the brilliance
and contrast levels before returning it. Sets nearly always come
shipped with them pumped right up to attract customners in-store.
Adjusting that would probably have helped.

if the set you have now is a cheap brand (i have never heard of it,
but then i'm in europe) it probably has not got as good build quality
or shielding as the other set, hence the moire caused by the radio
interference as you identified..
-B

 

[freestonew]

I know...I know...

I did this, one day, i could *almost* live with this eyestrain, the
picture was incredible for quality, but still the eyestrain.

Apparently each tv company makes their tubes in a certain way, each
brand is different. i have trouble explaining to people just how
this "difference' manifests. I have looked at several tvs, all in a
row, at best buy, a few weeks ago, and when i walked out of the store
i had vision problems for hours! yet another tv has it where i could
watch for hours and hours with no problems.

the "problem' lies with me and my apparent genetics! just like that
guy in my college dorm who could see the flicker in *any* and all
flouresent light tubes, and this flickr was intolerable to him, it
sounded like as if every such light looked like a computer monitor at
50
refresh rate!
Thus this Insignia can be watched even at "bright, contrast, sharpness"
set to MAX, with little eyestrain, for me, while the Toshiba
is barely tolerable at min specs!

do not get me started on "sugar"!! I react to all those artifical
sugars and they also leave such a bad aftertaste too, and i have a
"joke"
where i would tell a young drug dealer that his future should be SUGAR
as their might be only black markets for real sugar soon, as soon that
artifical stuff will be in everything!

I have to be especially concerned about eyestrain, too, as i play my
games up close, four to five feet, from the screen.

I got that "moire" down to a tolerable level, i think it is the new
surge protector with Filtering, that helps.

I wonder if getting a better component cable would help, in that
department also?

freestone