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Bill Sloman

Jan 1, 1970
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So in other words you don't know any either.  They don't exist, AFAIK,
except in some fevered imaginations.

There really are people around who believe that gays are evil, rather
than different. I don't know any personally - pretty much all of my
friends are what Americans call college-educated liberals who had to
give up that idea when they first went to college - graduates of Bob
Jones University don't really qualify as college educated and liberal.

My evidence the existence of a gays-are-evil brigade is based what
they write in the "letters to the editor" sections of the newspapers
that I read, and on the abuse they yell at demonstrations that I see
on television.
 
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Gib Bogle

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh well, if there is a book about it, then it must be true. Figures.
My experience finds the arguments of democrats to appeal more to
emotions than to reason.

Who is more likely to reject evolution, a Democratic or a Republican
politician?
 
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Bill Sloman

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't know, but I imagine that even those who are believers in a
supreme being might keep it to themselves to avoid being attacked by
atheists. Like many who do not believe in any significant man-made
global warming, but keep quiet about it for fear of intimidation and
grant denials. In any case, I've read somewhere that even Einstein
believed in a creator. At least toward the end of his life.

Check the evidence more carefully. Einstein really liked Spinoza's
thinking, and any kind of separate creator doesn't fit into that world-
view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinozism

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_einstein.html

Claiming that prominent non-theists came around to a theistic point of
view is a popular hobby amongst dim theists. Any such claim should be
examined in detail - every one I've seen has turned out to be either a
straightforward lie, or wishful thinking.
 
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Jan 1, 1970
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Lets call a spade a spade:

OK... YOU are goddamned retard.
The Republicans lost because they wanted to lose.

A retarded crack like that is PROOF that YOU are a goddamned retard.
They (Republicans) know that this country can not live under W's tax cuts.


You're a goddamned idiot. We have ENOUGH fucking taxes, you retarded
piece of SHIT!!!
So they had to give the Democrats the election so they (Democrats) can
do what they (Republicans) could not do.

You are truly dumber than dogshit boy.
Raise taxes like Regan did, and save face.

Put idiots like you in a lye pit. That will cut costs.
(Regan raised taxes by calling it something else)

There is no calling the retard you are anything else but a total
fucking retard.
Blame the Democrat's for raising taxes, a Republican president did not
do that, saves face.

You are truly a pathetic, immature little nit-wit.
Now the Republicans want to save face again by giving illegal emigrants
a path to citizenship ( or something close) so they can get elected.

You're an idiot. Almost criminally so.
Why start now ??

Beatting you the **** up? Why didn't we start years ago, when you
starting spewing stupid horseshit like this in these groups.
They have the taxes to now reduced the debt and it was not their
(Republicans) fault.

You're an idiot. Your grasp of politics is less than nil.
Life is now good and they (Republicans) did not have to do what they
could not do. (Raise taxes)

If you think the mess this nation is in "is now good", you are an even
bigger idiot than your previous absolutely retarded remarks made you
look.
 
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Chairman Meow

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't know, but I imagine that even those who are believers in a
supreme being might keep it to themselves to avoid being attacked by
atheists. Like many who do not believe in any significant man-made
global warming, but keep quiet about it for fear of intimidation and
grant denials. In any case, I've read somewhere that even Einstein
believed in a creator. At least toward the end of his life.


I cannot believe that you guys are so devoid of actual historical
facts. Einstein believed in god.

Did Gib go round asking all those folks? NO! That is a good way to
get shitcanned from a job. So I KNOW the retarded **** saying "in my
experience" really means:

"I have been guessing about the beliefs of any colleagues I may have
ever had in every case."

Not very fucking scientific at all, if you ask me. And these days,
even more folks keep their stance to themselves than ever before.
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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UltimatePatriot said:
They did poorly because there are so many 100% gullible absolute idiots
of voting age these days.
Yes, 100% correct!

Jamie
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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hamilton said:
Lets call a spade a spade:

The Republicans lost because they wanted to lose.

They (Republicans) know that this country can not live under W's tax cuts.

So they had to give the Democrats the election so they (Democrats) can
do what they (Republicans) could not do.

Raise taxes like Regan did, and save face.
(Regan raised taxes by calling it something else)

Blame the Democrat's for raising taxes, a Republican president did not
do that, saves face.

Now the Republicans want to save face again by giving illegal emigrants
a path to citizenship ( or something close) so they can get elected.

Why start now ??

They have the taxes to now reduced the debt and it was not their
(Republicans) fault.

Life is now good and they (Republicans) did not have to do what they
could not do. (Raise taxes)

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And what happens when they run out of working people, people that
actually want to work that pays these taxes?



Jamie
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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Bill said:
The "New Scientist" article claimed that the latest round of results
had reduced the the list of possible candidates to two, and they still
needed to work out the spin of the particle they were looking at to
eliminate the possibility that it was a graviton (whatever that might
be) rather than the Higgs boson. It sounded as if a lot of people
would be very surprised - and extremely interested - if it turned out
to be a graviton.

There's discussion of this on the web, but nothing I find particularly
informative.
It's all about keeping the money flowing for science that is beyond
them or a direction they have picked that they know will lead them to no
where.

A fool and their money will serve many scientist as long as the
general community remain ignorant enough to be blind sided, much like
the democratic party's method of running the country.

I think you fall into that community, btw.

Jamie
 
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Jeroen

Jan 1, 1970
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Nobody is supposed to be anything. Most scientists are atheists, in my
experience. Interestingly, biologists seem less likely to be theists
than other scientists.

They know about all the silly errors in living things. :)
Some of them are hilarious.

Jeroen Belleman
 
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rickman

Jan 1, 1970
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And what happens when they run out of working people, people that
actually want to work that pays these taxes?

You've been reading your Ayn Rand books again, haven't you?
 
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rickman

Jan 1, 1970
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It's all about keeping the money flowing for science that is beyond them
or a direction they have picked that they know will lead them to no where.

A fool and their money will serve many scientist as long as the general
community remain ignorant enough to be blind sided, much like
the democratic party's method of running the country.

I think you fall into that community, btw.

What exactly are you going on about? You think science is a waste of
time and money? Really???
 
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cameo

Jan 1, 1970
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There really are people around who believe that gays are evil, rather
than different. I don't know any personally - pretty much all of my
friends are what Americans call college-educated liberals who had to
give up that idea when they first went to college - graduates of Bob
Jones University don't really qualify as college educated and liberal.

My evidence the existence of a gays-are-evil brigade is based what
they write in the "letters to the editor" sections of the newspapers
that I read, and on the abuse they yell at demonstrations that I see
on television.

Where is your obsession with the gay subject coming from? You keep
dragging it in regardless what the subject is. Get a life, man!
 
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cameo

Jan 1, 1970
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I cannot believe that you guys are so devoid of actual historical
facts. Einstein believed in god.

Did Gib go round asking all those folks? NO! That is a good way to
get shitcanned from a job. So I KNOW the retarded **** saying "in my
experience" really means:

"I have been guessing about the beliefs of any colleagues I may have
ever had in every case."

Not very fucking scientific at all, if you ask me. And these days,
even more folks keep their stance to themselves than ever before.
Of course they do. That's what political correctness is about. Just like
in the former communist countries where people were forced to chant the
dogma in public and were believing something entirely different that
they could share only with family and close friends. Otherwise they
would have lost their job or worse. This is always the case where
leftists gain power. No tolerance for opposing views.
 
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rickman

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course they do. That's what political correctness is about. Just like
in the former communist countries where people were forced to chant the
dogma in public and were believing something entirely different that
they could share only with family and close friends. Otherwise they
would have lost their job or worse. This is always the case where
leftists gain power. No tolerance for opposing views.

No, that's just called separating work from politics. Keep your
politics to yourself and don't provoke your coworkers. If this group is
any sign, there is no such thing as "political correctness". I don't
see where anyone is holding back on anything!
 
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rickman

Jan 1, 1970
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Ok, so you tell me where does the funds come from. You seem
to have a problem with the numbers, from what I can see.

It appears you are the one that has been living in the shadows
or maybe you are promoting people to not work? Now that would be
nice wouldn't. we can see the system collapse as soon as everyone
puts down the keys to the farm equipment, stop feeding the food
animals etc. why should they? The GOV will just pay you from what?
who knows..

There are free loaders and those that actually need help and can not
work due to years of SSI contributions for retirement or medical
reasons. Remove the free loaders and you'll see what happens. Sorry if
we don't here from you.

This country is becoming an ignorant race of the dumb asses and people
like yourself promotes it. When there is no more, who will be screaming at?

Bird feeder scenario..

Close, but in "Atlas Shrugged" the walk offs started with the people at
the top, remember? I believe one of the first was Hank Rearden. "Who
is John Galt?"

I would like to discuss this with you, but I actually can't make sense
of some of your writing. "can not work due to years of SSI
contributions for retirement or medical reasons" What does this
mean??? There are people who can't work because they have contributed
to SSI?
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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cameo said:
It's nothing that couldn't be fixed by allowing only taxpayers to vote.
Just like in any organizations where only those have a say who paid
their dues.
That will never happen, if it did, most of those democrats would be
out looking for work.. Maybe picking eggs or shoveling manure.?

Jamie
 
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Bill Sloman

Jan 1, 1970
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Where is your obsession with the gay subject coming from?

In thos particular case, from Tim Wescott's line " it's hard to
believe in a big magic
white guy in the sky who wants us to hate gays."
You keep dragging it in regardless what the subject is.
Scarcely.

Get a life, man!

Exercise your reading skills a little harder.
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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rickman said:
You've been reading your Ayn Rand books again, haven't you?
Ok, so you tell me where does the funds come from. You seem
to have a problem with the numbers, from what I can see.

It appears you are the one that has been living in the shadows
or maybe you are promoting people to not work? Now that would be
nice wouldn't. we can see the system collapse as soon as everyone
puts down the keys to the farm equipment, stop feeding the food
animals etc. why should they? The GOV will just pay you from what?
who knows..

There are free loaders and those that actually need help and can not
work due to years of SSI contributions for retirement or medical
reasons. Remove the free loaders and you'll see what happens. Sorry if
we don't here from you.

This country is becoming an ignorant race of the dumb asses and people
like yourself promotes it. When there is no more, who will be screaming at?

Bird feeder scenario..

Jamie
 
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Bill Sloman

Jan 1, 1970
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   Ok, so you tell me where does the funds come from. You seem
to have a problem with the numbers, from what I can see.

  It appears you are the one that has been living in the shadows
or maybe you are promoting people to not work? Now that would be
nice wouldn't. we can see the system collapse as soon as everyone
puts down the keys to the farm equipment, stop feeding the food
animals etc. why should they? The GOV will just pay you from what?
  who knows..

   There are free loaders and those that actually need help and can not
work due to years of SSI contributions for retirement or medical
reasons. Remove the free loaders and you'll see what happens. Sorry if
we don't here from you.

   This country is becoming an ignorant race of the dumb asses and people
like yourself promotes it. When there is no more, who will be screaming at?

  Bird feeder scenario..

The US apparently now has a Gini coefficient of 0.47, higher than
China or Russia. It's not the government who is grabbing all the
money, but the rich. Why should the 99% work harder and more
productively, if all that their efforts buy is more money for the 1%?

Look at Germany, where better social securty and and more money spent
on education leaves the Gini coefficient at around 0,283.

Their society isn't as egalitarian as Sweden, Denmark or Norway, where
the Gini coefficient is down to 0.25, but their economy is a bit
healthier, not that the other three are doing badly.
 
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