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Don Bowey

Jan 1, 1970
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No... Didn't you see the retard's little wink at the end of his
horseshit?

His little winks are lies. Don't believe them.
Still doesn't change the fact that he has "issues".

Yes. He's a closet leftist weenie :^)
 
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UltimatePatriot

Jan 1, 1970
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Didn't have to start at the 'beginning'. All you had to do was read
the message being replied to rather than, as I said, pulling one
sentence out of context.


And as I said... **** YOU, and **** OFF, BOY!
 
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UltimatePatriot

Jan 1, 1970
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Considering your inability to handle more than one sentence at a time
and complete lack of reading comprehension skills and logic I was
tempted to say the same about you. But then I guess a few dummies
slipped through even in the 'good ole days'.


"Dummies" is not a word, dipshit... at least not of the meaning your
retarded ass intended.

Try doing the **** OFF thing where I am concerned, and you won't have a
problem.

Oh... did I say **** OFF! yet?
 
they also employ tactics like claiming "racism","discrimination",or the
over-used "fascism".
Then they attempt to ruin the person's employment and lives using that.

Look at what happened to that Harvard professor who commented on women's
abilities in hard sciences,and is fighting to retain his job.
And he's a diehard liberal!!

What you seem to have failed to notice is that there is good academic
work on women's abilities in the hard sciences - they are not
significantly different from men's. There are social pressures that
discourage women from enrollng in the hard sciences, so they are under-
represented, which means that they don't get promoted as they should -
see Ginny Vallian's "Why So Slow" ISBN-10: 0262720310, ISBN-13:
978-0262720311 - and Lawrence Summers - the Havard professor involved
- managed to ignore all of it.

http://wiseli.engr.wisc.edu/news/LawrenceSummers_Response.pdf
So much for the vaunted liberal desire for "diversity";definitely NO
diverse opinions if they conflict with liberal views.

Actually, the problem wasn't that his opinion conflicted with the
"liberal" view, it was that it conflicted with the scientific
concensus available in the peer-reviewed scientific literature.

Ginny Valian's book reviews quite a lot of this work - it is an area
where she is reasonably active.

Typically, the National Review article on the subject

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/sommers200503220754.asp

ignores her considerable academic standing in the field and writes her
off as a rabid feminist, which would have surprised her husband, Jerry
Katz

http://www.apa.udel.edu/apa/philnews/files/jkatzobit.html

and the vast majority of her acquaintances - it certainly surprises
me.
 
Ah, the old classic out of context one liner quote, snip the rest, and
go zinging off on an unrelated topic.

The merits, or not, of any particular policy, and that includes your
opinions on drug use, have nothing to do with the topic I was
discussing, which was the means by which policy is 'debated'.




Factually untrue, as even a most careless perusal of the budget would
reveal.

I believe statistics show that the U.S. spends more, per student , on
both primary and secondary education than any other country, and by a
rather hefty margin.


The harder drugs are not being smuggled in because cannabis is
illegal; the harder ones are illegal too.



I guess you missed prohibition in history class.

Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, and it isn't working for the
other recreational drugs. The "War on Drugs" is just prohibition with
different targets and one wonders why U.S. administrations continue to
waste money on an obviously futile strategy.

Lenny Bruce used to claim that the war on drugs was merely a
conspiracy between the FBI and Mafia aimed at maximising the profits
the Mafia got from pushing the drugs and the kick-backs the FBI got
from looking the other way. In the Netherlands it turns out that the
governemnt can save money by giving drugs addicts their fix for free
(provided that the addicts shoot up under supervision so they can't
sell on part of their maintenance dose). It costs money to provide the
drugs and the supervision, but more than pays for itself by minimising
the problems created by desperate addicts.
 
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flipper

Jan 1, 1970
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Come on, fucktard. Back up your bullshit.

You mean the way you do with "trust me?"
When, in the entire escalation of cannabis use since the sixties, has
there been documentation of any THC related accidents?
Yes


There hasn't.
Bull

Yet recently, law enforcement retards want us all to
think there has due to us citing this anomaly in their logic.

So they show stats on positive tests for THC in recent traffic
accidents and stops.

There's a hell of a lot more. As just one example, this study

http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/16723194?src=emed_ckb_ref_0

"Cannabis use has been associated with increased risk of becoming
involved in traffic accidents; however, the relation between THC
concentration and driver impairment is relatively obscure. The present
study was designed to define performance impairment as a function of
THC in serum and oral fluid in order to provide a scientific framework
to the development of per se limits for driving under the influence of
cannabis.
..
..
included measures of perceptual-motor control (Critical tracking
task), motor impulsivity (Stop signal task) and cognitive function
(Tower of London).
..
..
..
Binomial tests showed an initial and significant shift toward
impairment in the Critical tracking task for serum THC concentrations
between 2 and 5 ng/ml. At concentrations between 5 and 10 ng/ml
approximately 75-90% of the observations were indicative of
significant impairment in every performance test. At THC
concentrations >30 ng/ml the proportion of observations indicative of
significant impairment increased to a full 100% in every performance
tests. It is concluded that serum THC concentrations between 2 and 5
ng/ml establish the lower and upper range of a THC limit for
impairment."

Problem is that there is NO test for THC IN the body. The test only
finds metabolites which indicate that THC had been in the body... at
some time in the last TWO MONTHS.

Hardly a valid statistic pointer.

Besides ignoring that the testing mechanism measures levels and not
simply 'something detected', try considering, just for starters Mr.
Genius, the driver and/or passengers admitting to use.

There's more than one way to gather data than your Simple Simon
propaganda suggests.

Come back when you actually have a clue.

To start with, why don't you give us all stats on traffic accidents in
countries where THC use is legal and prevalent?

Try looking up the French study on cannibals related traffic accidents
and deaths.

What's that? Oh yeah... fucking silence is hard to hear.

Besides being a foul mouth ass with delusions it 'enhances' an
argument you're apparently a 'true believer' who will swallow whatever
a legalization site spits out, plus tossing in a few nonsensical gems
yourself, like users don't drive.

Cannabis impairs reflexes and judgment. Or, to put it in your favorite
term, the user becomes inebriated. And it doesn't take a genius to
figure out that doesn't mix well with driving.

But back to 'tests', cannabis users fail standard road side
coordination 'inebriation' tests too.
 
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Frithiof Andreas Jensen

Jan 1, 1970
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"The Great Attractor"
Idiots like you are the reason why despite us having all this great
electronic technology, and medical technology, etc. etc., we still cannot
stop killing each other.

And .... Why should we? It is in our nature - and if we "improve ourselves"
the competetion will spot the obvious weakness and exploit it!

Killing solves *real* problems for people, like who gets to the waterhole,
how to get the chetah to stay out of the cave, how to explain to all the
competing tribes that they are *not* entitled to you "stuff", how to get all
the mormons to bug off to Utah.
Hey... I know! We could have one last kill session where we cull out
all the bad and are left only with "civil folk".

Ooops... hasn't that always been the goal as well as the reason?

The window of opportunity for mankind to have repaired their basic
faults died a couple thousand years ago when we killed The Son of God
himself.

That's *that* problem over and done with! Might as well continue as we are
then!?
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."


[snip]



You might be getting cause and effect mixed up with the
liberal/progressive tendencies. Perhaps it is the property of having a
broad education that makes one seem like a 'liberal'.

Naaaah! It's part of the mental defectiveness that thinks a label
(PhD) infuses intelligence.

Whereas Jim represents the kind of mental deficiency that fails to see
that it is kind of difficult to do the work required to get a Ph.D.
without having a fair measure of intelligence to start with - IQ tests
on people who have managed to get a Ph.D. suggest that they are pretty
much all drawn from that tail of the population with IQ's of 115 or
higher. Of course, once you've got over that threshold, your IQ-score
doesn't correlate to any significant extent with your subsequent
success.

Jim was once intelligent enough to qualify for membeship of Mensa,
which does go to show that the intelligence defined by IQ tests is a
rather narrowly applicable skill.


Slowman hits a home run.

Looked like a foul ball to me.

PhD's, in industry settings, are the least productive of all
employees... least cash-flow per dollar invested.

For example, Bob Widlar didn't even complete his undergraduate degree
until many years in industry.

And Slowman can't hold a job.

...Jim Thompson
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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On Nov 17, 4:39 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."


[snip]



You might be getting cause and effect mixed up with the
liberal/progressive tendencies. Perhaps it is the property of having a
broad education that makes one seem like a 'liberal'.

Naaaah! It's part of the mental defectiveness that thinks a label
(PhD) infuses intelligence.

Whereas Jim represents the kind of mental deficiency that fails to see
that it is kind of difficult to do the work required to get a Ph.D.
without having a fair measure of intelligence to start with - IQ tests
on people who have managed to get a Ph.D. suggest that they are pretty
much all drawn from that tail of the population with IQ's of 115 or
higher. Of course, once you've got over that threshold, your IQ-score
doesn't correlate to any significant extent with your subsequent
success.

Jim was once intelligent enough to qualify for membeship of Mensa,
which does go to show that the intelligence defined by IQ tests is a
rather narrowly applicable skill.


Slowman hits a home run.

Looked like a foul ball to me.

PhD's, in industry settings, are the least productive of all
employees... least cash-flow per dollar invested.

For example, Bob Widlar didn't even complete his undergraduate degree
until many years in industry.

And Slowman can't hold a job.

...Jim Thompson


Can you imagine working with him? Entire departments would quit, or
drop dead from sheer boredom and force-of-pontification.

John
 
On Nov 17, 4:39 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:56:44 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
[snip]
You might be getting cause and effect mixed up with the
liberal/progressive tendencies. Perhaps it is the property of having a
broad education that makes one seem like a 'liberal'.
Naaaah! It's part of the mental defectiveness that thinks a label
(PhD) infuses intelligence.
Whereas Jim represents the kind of mental deficiency that fails to see
that it is kind of difficult to do the work required to get a Ph.D.
without having a fair measure of intelligence to start with - IQ tests
on people who have managed to get a Ph.D. suggest that they are pretty
much all drawn from that tail of the population with IQ's of 115 or
higher. Of course, once you've got over that threshold, your IQ-score
doesn't correlate to any significant extent with your subsequent
success.
Jim was once intelligent enough to qualify for membeship of Mensa,
which does go to show that the intelligence defined by IQ tests is a
rather narrowly applicable skill.
Slowman hits a home run.

Looked like a foul ball to me.

PhD's, in industry settings, are the least productive of all
employees... least cash-flow per dollar invested.

Short term thinking. Ph.D's should properly be used to find new
products that create new markets - the Bell Labs work on the
transistor is the classic example - and the long-term payoff can be
huge. There was a vogue - for a while - of paying internal royalties
to the research labs of big companies, which stopped when it became
clear that over any length of time the research labs would end up
owning the company.
For example, Bob Widlar didn't even complete his undergraduate degree
until many years in industry.

And I've never had any formal training in electronics.
And Slowman can't hold a job.

Wrong. I can't get a job now - mainly because I turn 65 in couple of
weeks. I worked for two years and eleven months in the last job I had,
and was let go then because if I'd been there for more than three
years I'd have automatically had a permanent job (under Dutch law)
which would have meant that I'd have automatically become a member of
the company's pension scheme, which would have meant that company
would have had to start paying a sum equal to 67% of my gross salary
into the pension fund - under Dutch law I could have taken early
retirement the day I became a member of the pension fund, and the
pension fund set the company contribution level high enough to
minimise the chance that this could happen.

The first time I was unemployed was in the UK in 1991 when I was made
redundant with the rest of my development team at Cambridge
Instruments, when I was 49. I was back in temporary work within a few
days and in a job which eventually became permanent some six months
later.

As these things go, I've actually been pretty good at getting jobs and
hanging onto them. I wonder how well Jim would do at getting a
permanent job in the Netherlands at the moment? There is a persistent
demand for analog integrated circuit designers, but Dutch personnel
departments don't understand technical skills and don't like hiring
people over the age of 45. I was 58 when I got my last job, but that
company didn't bother with a personnel department.
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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Lenny Bruce used to claim that the war on drugs was merely a
conspiracy between the FBI and Mafia aimed at maximising the profits
the Mafia got from pushing the drugs and the kick-backs the FBI got
from looking the other way. In the Netherlands it turns out that the
governemnt can save money by giving drugs addicts their fix for free
(provided that the addicts shoot up under supervision so they can't
sell on part of their maintenance dose). It costs money to provide the
drugs and the supervision, but more than pays for itself by minimising
the problems created by desperate addicts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Bruce#Death
 
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ChairmanOfTheBored

Jan 1, 1970
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"Cannabis use has been associated with increased risk of becoming
involved in traffic accidents; however, the relation between THC
concentration and driver impairment is relatively obscure.


There is no test for THC in the blood, you fucking retard.

So there can be no association made with any validity.
 
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ChairmanOfTheBored

Jan 1, 1970
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Besides ignoring that the testing mechanism measures levels and not
simply 'something detected', try considering, just for starters Mr.
Genius, the driver and/or passengers admitting to use.

There is no "testing mechanism" in use by LEO organizations for THC
concentrations in the blood. That was a lab level test, and I have
doubts about that. The cops use a metabolite test, and that test only
shows that cannabis MAY have been used at some point in the past two
MONTHS!
There's more than one way to gather data than your Simple Simon
propaganda suggests.

Yeah, and there is more than one way to interpret it as well, not to
mention that today's kids do more than they admit typically.

Then there is that FACT that different strains/species of cannabis have
different effects on a person, let alone that different persons react
differently to it one from another.

It is a stimulant in some instances, and a MILD depressant in others,
and it is certainly NOT a "narcotic", which is what it is classified as.

Maybe one day you will grow the **** up and realize that you have not
always been fed the facts, and said facts are not always what is
available as such in your cursory research.
 
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