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help me trouble shoot - guitar amp crackle

a crate combo amp for guitar.
touching the "high" pot (3-band EQ, low mid high pots) makes a loud
crackle right thru the power amp section and out the speaker
turning the pot, touching it lightly, tapping on it - same result -
loud nasty sound

touching any other controls or chassis, no problems. even shaking the
amp, no problem.
it's only touching or turning the one pot.

does this sound like a simple solder or inexpensive pot replacement??
thanks!
 
K

Ken Weitzel

Jan 1, 1970
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a crate combo amp for guitar.
touching the "high" pot (3-band EQ, low mid high pots) makes a loud
crackle right thru the power amp section and out the speaker
turning the pot, touching it lightly, tapping on it - same result -
loud nasty sound

touching any other controls or chassis, no problems. even shaking the
amp, no problem.
it's only touching or turning the one pot.

does this sound like a simple solder or inexpensive pot replacement??
thanks!

Hi...

Clean the control with a little bit of electronic control cleaner.

Not even necessary to disassemble the unit. Buy a spray can of
cleaner. Unplug the unit, remove the knob, rest it on its back
so that the control shaft is pointing up. Spray a quick burst or
two around "bearing"; where the shaft turns. quickly rotate the
control from low to high position back and forth a dozen times.
Give it another quick shot, rotate again. Let it dry thoroughly and
it "should" be good as new.

Take care.

Ken
 
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Mark

Jan 1, 1970
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if you really mean TOUCHING it without moving creates noise, then it
may be a bad ground...

the case of the control and therefore the knob should be grounded to
the chassis

Mark
 
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Dave D

Jan 1, 1970
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a crate combo amp for guitar.
touching the "high" pot (3-band EQ, low mid high pots) makes a loud
crackle right thru the power amp section and out the speaker
turning the pot, touching it lightly, tapping on it - same result -
loud nasty sound

touching any other controls or chassis, no problems. even shaking the
amp, no problem.
it's only touching or turning the one pot.

does this sound like a simple solder or inexpensive pot replacement??
thanks!

If you feel comfortable opening up the amp, and are aware of the safety
precautions required:

Firstly, check the pot's soldering is sound. If it is-

Get a can of *lubricating* switch cleaner with a nozzle tube from an
electronics shop, locate the pot inside the amp and try to find an opening
in the pot, usually above the pot's terminals. Fit the tube to the can
nozzle, insert it into the opening and spraya small quantity of fluid in. A
brief burst is sufficient. Work the pot back and forth to spread the fluid
around.

Power the amp up and test the pot. If the problem remains, repeat until it
clears. If still no joy, you'll maybe have to replace the pot. In some cases
dismantling the pot and cleaning the resistive trace and contacts with swabs
works well, but that entails desoldering it, bending back the retaining lugs
and seperating the resistive element from the metal body. Not really a job
for a novice, but it's not that difficult.

I would avoid the temptation to try and spray the fluid in by taking off the
knob and spraying it through the front. It will take a lot of fluid to
eventually get along the shaft into the pot, most of it will be wasted and
just make a mess!

Also, that nice, smooth drag effect most pots have will be completely
destroyed by squirting cleaner along the shaft- the effect is caused by a
heavy, viscous oil between the shaft and bearing which will be washed away
by the switch cleaner. You'll end up with a slack, easy to turn pot (and
hence easily accidentally knocked off its intended setting!) possibly with a
rough or inconsistant feel to it.

Also, you could end up with a mix of switchlube and viscous damping oil in
your pot. The lube solvent will evaporate leaving a nasty, non-conductive
mess which could make things even worse.

You'll also destroy the viscous damping effect by spraying too much
switchlube in the back as well, as it will seep into the space between shaft
and body. Take care to spray very small amounts between tests.

Good luck.

Dave
 
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Bobby Villamor

Jan 1, 1970
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Pot problem. To do it without spending a cent, use a medicine dropper, suck
rubbing alcohol and place a few
drops into the pot. The pot's terminal should be upwards, then turn pot all
the way both directions a few times.
You may also try WD40 or any contact cleaner available - don't buy -
otherwise, just buy a new pot.
Bobby
 
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Rheilly Phoull

Jan 1, 1970
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a crate combo amp for guitar.
touching the "high" pot (3-band EQ, low mid high pots) makes a loud
crackle right thru the power amp section and out the speaker
turning the pot, touching it lightly, tapping on it - same result -
loud nasty sound

touching any other controls or chassis, no problems. even shaking the
amp, no problem.
it's only touching or turning the one pot.

does this sound like a simple solder or inexpensive pot replacement??
thanks!

Whilst the foregoing advice may well be correct there is another possible
reason. In older amps that used electrolytic coupling capacitors, it is
common for those capacitors to become "leaky" which means that DC will be
appearing across the pot. The only cure is to replace the faulty capacitors.
 
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Peter V Rawlings

Jan 1, 1970
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Dave D said:
If you feel comfortable opening up the amp, and are aware of the safety
precautions required:

Firstly, check the pot's soldering is sound. If it is-

Get a can of *lubricating* switch cleaner with a nozzle tube from an
electronics shop, locate the pot inside the amp and try to find an opening
in the pot, usually above the pot's terminals. Fit the tube to the can
nozzle, insert it into the opening and spraya small quantity of fluid in.
A brief burst is sufficient. Work the pot back and forth to spread the
fluid around.

Power the amp up and test the pot. If the problem remains, repeat until it
clears. If still no joy, you'll maybe have to replace the pot. In some
cases dismantling the pot and cleaning the resistive trace and contacts
with swabs works well, but that entails desoldering it, bending back the
retaining lugs and seperating the resistive element from the metal body.
Not really a job for a novice, but it's not that difficult.

I would avoid the temptation to try and spray the fluid in by taking off
the knob and spraying it through the front. It will take a lot of fluid to
eventually get along the shaft into the pot, most of it will be wasted and
just make a mess!

Also, that nice, smooth drag effect most pots have will be completely
destroyed by squirting cleaner along the shaft- the effect is caused by a
heavy, viscous oil between the shaft and bearing which will be washed away
by the switch cleaner. You'll end up with a slack, easy to turn pot (and
hence easily accidentally knocked off its intended setting!) possibly with
a rough or inconsistant feel to it.

Also, you could end up with a mix of switchlube and viscous damping oil in
your pot. The lube solvent will evaporate leaving a nasty, non-conductive
mess which could make things even worse.

You'll also destroy the viscous damping effect by spraying too much
switchlube in the back as well, as it will seep into the space between
shaft and body. Take care to spray very small amounts between tests.

Good luck.

Dave

Dave's comprehensive treatise hits the 'pot! :)

I'd just caution that rather than use WD-40 (as one other poster
recommends), use 'Servisol Super 10' - if it's available to you - as it does
not leave loads of dust-gathering oil residues for evermore! Stressing the
get-at-it-from-the-back tip; most panel-mounted pots with metal cases have
those two crimped indents to support the track assembly inside. One of
these is the ideal place to point the Servisol pipe into. With servisol,
you don't need to be too worried about overdosing the pot with lubricant -
most of it seems to be ("CFC-free?" :-O ) cleaner - but it *is* flammable,
so pay attention to safety directions on the can!

I recently 'restored' several pots on my 28-year-old Carlsbro amp using this
material/method. The results were so good, I sold it in no time!! :-/

** BE SURE TO REMOVE MAINS CONNECTION to your amp before removing any
panels/components!! **

If this fails, I think Dave has said the rest! :)

Cheers,
+
++Pete.
 
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Ron(UK)

Jan 1, 1970
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Bobby said:
Pot problem. To do it without spending a cent, use a medicine dropper, suck
rubbing alcohol and place a few
drops into the pot. The pot's terminal should be upwards, then turn pot all
the way both directions a few times.
You may also try WD40 or any contact cleaner available - don't buy -
otherwise, just buy a new pot.
Bobby

Never never ever use WD40 on electronic equipment - this topic has been
gone through hundreds of times in various newsgroups as to why not, even
the manufacturers of WD40 dont recommend it.

Ron(UK)
 
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