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Terry Given

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg said:
Hello Joseph,



Mostly to avoid corona or arcing. Far enough away from the winding it
isn't so important. Another concern is if the wire is to be wound
directly onto the bare or taped core. Any burrs can damage the insulation.

Regards, Joerg

I would also point out that "sharp" (IOW not well radiused) edges can
cause long-term problems with winding insulation, which is stressed
around a tight corner. The inside edge insulation gets squished up, and
the outer edge gets thinned out. Add heat + time, and creep may well result.

I had a hilarious argument with a so-called mechanical engineer about
this once. He reckoned that a 2.8mm dia. O-ring, bent 90 degrees around
a 1mm radius, maintains its shape. I reckoned he was an idiot. I was
right, water poured in at the edges. Of course he did have a 2.8mm
channel for the O-ring at the corner (cf 2.5mm elsewhere). The O-ring
thinned out by about 0.3mm. Even showing him the o-ring under a
microscope wasnt enough to convince him. It convinced me never to use
him again.

His fix was to use a 3mm O-ring, which made the unit impossible to
assemble. His fix for that was to use vaseline, which then destroyed
(completely! looked like a sledge hammer had been used) $300,000 worth
of polycarbonate-based plastic enclosures, which *he* had designed and
made. His choice of material, too. It took about 3 months for the scale
of the problem to become apparent, in the field. At that stage, lawyers
were called (and I learned a lot about the interaction of plastics and
other goodies)


Cheers
Terry
 
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Mebart

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi M,

could you please include me in that distribution as well. substitute my
name for my_name (IOW [email protected]). I have been
interested in these things for some time also (but again, have yet to
find one I can really buy/use)


I can't help but notice the domain of your email address though. I
sure wish I could afford to buy all the technical references in your
org's stockpile-I'd be like a kid in a candy store.

I'd want anything to do with piezo power generation, and with
cockcroft-walton based power supply design and simulations. You have a
nice paper in there about simulations on photomultiplier tubes too.

Anyway, all the stuff I gathered was public domain on the web,
searched out with google. Enjoy.

If you are looking for sources for the actual devices, I'll send you
info about a US suppliers I know of.

Joel has just archived the data in an 18 mb zip file, can you download
it all at once via the web? If not, let me know and I'll gladly email
all the files.

If you have www access, check out his ftp site. Download
"piezoXfrmr.zip" from http://oregonstate.edu/~kolstadj/

Please keep me posted if you actaully start playing with them.

Regards,

M
 
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Terry Given

Jan 1, 1970
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Mebart said:
I can't help but notice the domain of your email address though. I
sure wish I could afford to buy all the technical references in your
org's stockpile-I'd be like a kid in a candy store.

I have 20 CDs, containing everything the UFFC has written since 1950 (up
to 2001 IIRC), along with a dozen or so books. that cost US$50, but I
had to join UFFC for a year.

the books are:

Acoustic Waves: Devices, Imaging, and Analog Signal Processing - G.
S. Kino

Bulk Acoustic Waves: Theory and Devices - Joel F. Rosenbaum

Crystal Oscillator Design and Temperature Compensation - M. E. Frerking

Design of Crystal and Other Harmonic Oscillators - Benjamin Parzen,
Arthur Ballato

Handbook of Quartz Crystal Devices - David Salt

Introduction to Quartz Crystal Unit Design - Virgil E. Bottom

Quartz Crystals for Electrical Circuits - R. A. Heising

Quartz Resonator Handbook, Manufacturing Guide for "AT" Type Units - R.
E. Bennett

Surface-Wave Devices for Signal Processing - David P. Morgan



any of them tickle your fancy?

I'd want anything to do with piezo power generation, and with
cockcroft-walton based power supply design and simulations. You have a
nice paper in there about simulations on photomultiplier tubes too.

Anyway, all the stuff I gathered was public domain on the web,
searched out with google. Enjoy.

If you are looking for sources for the actual devices, I'll send you
info about a US suppliers I know of.

yes, please. I am interested in low power (0.1 - 1W) supplies for IGBT
gatedrives, so need 5kV isolation and CHEAP.
Joel has just archived the data in an 18 mb zip file, can you download
it all at once via the web? If not, let me know and I'll gladly email
all the files.

If you have www access, check out his ftp site. Download
"piezoXfrmr.zip" from http://oregonstate.edu/~kolstadj/

Please keep me posted if you actaully start playing with them.

will do.
Regards,

M

yep, hadnt finished thread b4 sending post. got the zip, thanks Joel & M.

Cheers
Terry
 
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Fred Bartoli

Jan 1, 1970
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Winfield Hill said:
Mebart wrote...

Hah! OK, got it all, what a haul, thanks! Should I post this
mass of great stuff to our ftp server?

That'd be nice Win.
 
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Mike Monett

Jan 1, 1970
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Terry Given wrote:

[...]
Joels post 27/5/2005, but:

http://oregonstate.edu/~kolstadj/

Cheers
Terry

Thanks!

I searched back through the thread and got the one where he said he would
put it on his web site,

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Subject: Re: Designing HV transformers.
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:13:37 -0700
From: "Joel Kolstad" <[email protected]>

Win & others,

Mebart has begun sending me his data, and I'll stick it on a web site
after I get it all and have bundled it up.

---Joel
 
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Terry Given

Jan 1, 1970
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Mike said:
Terry Given wrote:

[...]

Joels post 27/5/2005, but:

http://oregonstate.edu/~kolstadj/

Cheers
Terry


Thanks!

I searched back through the thread and got the one where he said he would
put it on his web site,

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Subject: Re: Designing HV transformers.
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:13:37 -0700
From: "Joel Kolstad" <[email protected]>

Win & others,

Mebart has begun sending me his data, and I'll stick it on a web site
after I get it all and have bundled it up.

---Joel
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but I couldn't find any post with his url. So I appreciate your help!

Mike Monett

No worries. Karmic quid-pro-quo.

Cheers
Terry
 
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