5963 (computer grade dual triode) production dates?

[Floyd L. Davidson]

*plonk*

Something about *accuracy*, rather than just rants, bothers you?

 

[DeserTBoB]

I guess the timekeeper has probably never worked a 50+ hour day
either? <snip>

Charlie Nudo? He can't even hold a job. He rag picks crap to sell on
eBay for a living. His behavior on Usenet tells the story a lot
better than I ever could in a single article.

 

[[email protected]]

So you are claiming they needed to cool a DMS to 62F to get it to
operate? Do you have any other fairy tales? Why do you make up
such goofy stories?

What you are saying has *nothing* to do with the DMS design. It
says that the HVAC was improperly designed.

Which points higher-up towards technical management being unable to
coordinate physical plant with other requirements, NOT a good sign! Not
that the task is automatic when a center that used to take 3 floors now
occupies a little (but much denser) closet. (Admittedly few sites went
from one to the other without some intermediate steps.)

Gross mismatches between physical plant and machine room or equipment
capacity and demand or software licensing and demand, at the very least
bring up the notion of incompetent planning. At the most extreme we
have extensive kickbacks for over-purchasing (and a governor who proved
that yes, indeed, you can get fired for buying Oracle.)

Tim.

 

[Mel Wilson]

... "Chainsaw" Dunlap

 

[DeserTBoB]

... "Chainsaw" Dunlap <snip>

Thanks! Reynolds was a footballer. "Hacksaw," "Chainsaw," "Neutron
Jack"...there's a distinct pattern here.

 

[duty-honor-country]

when someone posts to 3 am, then gets up at 8 am just to resume a flame
war, as it Bob's case, on a daily basis, I'd say that's a flag of a
personal addiction problem

FYI, Bob's not retired, he's 50 years old, and too damn lazy to work,
since Bell shitcanned his ass years ago- and now he's sponging off the
system- did you ever take a good look at the guy your posting to here ?

here ya go...he's trolling usenet for girlies 30 years younger than he
is...what's that say ?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=30321125

DB is a person you would not give the time of day to, or even associate
with, in real life

keep that in mind..

 

[duty-honor-country]

well well, Floyd, you're buddy buddy relationship with DeserTBob sure
has changed since upthread, hasn't it ?

it'll get worse- soon DB will be emailing your server and Google,
trying to get your ISP and email accounts shut down, because you had
the "audacity" to disagree with him

this DB guy has gone so far as to forge email headers, to ask that our
alt.collecting group be killfiled permananently, just because he could
not control it

next he'll be lying about your customers, like he did to me, read this-
he put words in someone's mouth, and when they found out, they came
into Google and tore him a new one:

I'll stick to the facts, and let the readers draw their own
conclusions:


DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough posted this:


From: DeserTBoB <[email protected]>
My boss...ROFLMAO! Hey, shitbag. I PAY for my stuff, just like
everyone else. I'm a SATISFIED CUSTOMER...something you don't even
HAVE! Even Frank Schoonover's wise to your scams and frauds now,
Noodles!
LICK it, CRICKET!


And when Frank Schoonover found out, Frank replied with this:


From: "frschoonover" <[email protected]>
Dear Desert Bob
AS Charlie put it,I am really pissed off at you for telling those lies
here.I am still a satisfied customer of Charlie Nudo and I will always
be a satisfied customer of Charlie Nudo's.
I am going to give you a friendly word of advice:"NEXT TIME,WHY DON'T
YOU PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND SHUT YOUR BIG MOUTH AS WELL
AS MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS".That way,we will all get along and have some



nice friendly chats rather than have your"BIG FAT POTTY MOUTH"ruin the
atmosphere in this group.
You know DB,if I had my way,you will no longer be in this group.That's
the truth.Sincerely Frank R.Schoonover
P.S.That name above is my real name and I am a real person.I live in
NIagara Falls NY,not Drums PA.I hope that I have gotten through

 

[DeserTBoB]

when someone posts to 3 am, then gets up at 8 am just to resume a flame
war, as it Bob's case, on a daily basis, I'd say that's a flag of a
personal addiction problem <snip>

TROLL ALERT!

Of course, Nudo doesn't understand the idea of "time zones," nor does
he understand that "goo goo groopz" doesn't give reliable message
posting data.

 

[DeserTBoB]

well well, Floyd, you're buddy buddy <snip>

TROLL ALERT!

Activate kill filters.

 

[Jordan Abel]

TROLL ALERT!

Of course, Nudo doesn't understand the idea of "time zones," nor does
he understand that "goo goo groopz" doesn't give reliable message
posting data.

Not understanding gg's shortcomings doesn't make him a troll.

 

[DeserTBoB]

Not understanding gg's shortcomings doesn't make him a troll. <snip>

Oh, but he is, with a history going back to 2000, when he finally
figured out that CRTs came on computers as well as TV sets. Not only
that, but he's a petty crook, as well. While he canceled over 300 of
his own posting to try to give himself a "make-over," there are still
plenty of examples in the archives, as well as on the 'Net. Search:
"charlie nudo" on Goo Goo sometime.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Total nightmare. Hams that like old Collins gear wouldn't be Collins
fans much longer if they only saw what Collins built for commercial
microwave. It was a total disaster.

The Collins C-band equipment they sold to CATV and TV stations was
pure crap as well. Fixed tuned with a single channel filter at the
antenna, and a mechanically tuned 4 GHz oscillator. A poor noise
figure, and they ran so hot that the green fiberglass PC boards turned
dark brown in a couple years of use.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[DeserTBoB]

The Collins C-band equipment they sold to CATV and TV stations was
pure crap as well. Fixed tuned with a single channel filter at the
antenna, and a mechanically tuned 4 GHz oscillator. A poor noise
figure, and they ran so hot that the green fiberglass PC boards turned
dark brown in a couple years of use. <snip>

To add insult to injury, AT&T contracted with Collins to provide GCE
(ground communications equipment, in old-time sat parlance) for three
AT&T C-band earth stations in the '70s built for the DOMSAT (we knew
it as "Dumbsat") project. Although GTE's Lenkurt stuff was inflexible
(had to tune 8 cavity waveguide filter sections for a simple frequency
change), it at least as pretty good. What WASN'T good were the
GTE-Milan FM demods...yoo wanna da noisa figura fora dat? Trying to
get parts from GTE-Milan was near impossible, even if you spoke some
Italian. They did built a very good cryo-cooled 12°K LNA back then,
though. I was the cryogenics guru at my site for years. 12°K, fed by
a 105' Cassagrain antenna, allowed us to do radio telescopy on slow
weekends.

 

[[email protected]]

The Collins C-band equipment they sold to CATV and TV stations was
pure crap as well. Fixed tuned with a single channel filter at the
antenna, and a mechanically tuned 4 GHz oscillator. A poor noise
figure, and they ran so hot that the green fiberglass PC boards turned
dark brown in a couple years of use.

old posts about T3 collins digital radio from san jose main plant site
to STL and LSG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#57 South San Jose (was Tysons
Corner, Virginia)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#65 Does the word "mainframe"
still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001e.html#76 Stoopidest Hardware Repair
Call?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#45 ibm time machine in new york
times?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#3 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#31 Moribund TSO/E
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#17 Communications Computers -
Data communications over telegraph
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#22 Channel Distances
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave
application--early data communications

......

after the built elevated 85 ... essentially thru part of the plant site
.... people would comment that their radar detector would trip passing
the path between the roof of bldg.12 and relay tower.

there was completely set of c-band stuff for satellite that was but in
by SBS on most plant sites (sbs had been formed by comsat, ibm, and
aetna). couple posts about the T3 encrypter on the TDMA channel ... the
data aggregator (aggrevator):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#27 Tysons Corner, Virginia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave
application--early data communications
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#30 IBM microwave
application--early data communications

one of the projects i got to do as part of HSDT (in additional to
various subchannels on the collins dgital radio)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

(... and some clear-channel T1 on telco (although we had to convert
when the local telco's came back and said that they would no longer
support clear-channel T1s ... and we had to play games with 193rd bit
..... )

was TDMA earth stations that had KU-band transponder on SBS4 (or SBS-D)
.... couple posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#27 Tysons Corner, Virginia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#28 Western Union data
communications?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#29 IBM 3725 Comms. controller -
Worth saving?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#76 1950s AT&T/IBM lack of
collaboration?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#14 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#32 BASIC Language History?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#21 Thou shalt have no other gods
before the ANSI C standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#17 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave
application--early data communications
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#24 IBM 610 workstation computer

sbs4 flew on 41d
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/41-d/mission-41-d.html

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

old posts about T3 collins digital radio from san jose main plant site
to STL and LSG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#57 South San Jose (was Tysons
Corner, Virginia)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#65 Does the word "mainframe"
still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001e.html#76 Stoopidest Hardware Repair
Call?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#45 ibm time machine in new york
times?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#3 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#31 Moribund TSO/E
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#17 Communications Computers -
Data communications over telegraph
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#22 Channel Distances
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave
application--early data communications

.....

after the built elevated 85 ... essentially thru part of the plant site
... people would comment that their radar detector would trip passing
the path between the roof of bldg.12 and relay tower.

there was completely set of c-band stuff for satellite that was but in
by SBS on most plant sites (sbs had been formed by comsat, ibm, and
aetna). couple posts about the T3 encrypter on the TDMA channel ... the
data aggregator (aggrevator):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#27 Tysons Corner, Virginia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave
application--early data communications
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#30 IBM microwave
application--early data communications

one of the projects i got to do as part of HSDT (in additional to
various subchannels on the collins dgital radio)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

(... and some clear-channel T1 on telco (although we had to convert
when the local telco's came back and said that they would no longer
support clear-channel T1s ... and we had to play games with 193rd bit
.... )

was TDMA earth stations that had KU-band transponder on SBS4 (or SBS-D)
... couple posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#27 Tysons Corner, Virginia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#28 Western Union data
communications?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#29 IBM 3725 Comms. controller -
Worth saving?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#76 1950s AT&T/IBM lack of
collaboration?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#14 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#32 BASIC Language History?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#21 Thou shalt have no other gods
before the ANSI C standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#17 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave
application--early data communications
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#24 IBM 610 workstation computer

sbs4 flew on 41d
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/41-d/mission-41-d.html

There is an abandoned C-band earthstation near here I'm trying to
track down. It was the only uplink built by Microdyne, and is supposed
to be the infamous site used by "Captain Midnight". I worked for
Microdyne for a number of years and collect their odd limited run
products, but this one would fill my garage according to one of the
engineers who worked on the system design. For instance, I may have the
only surviving C-band signal generator they built for the production
line testing of CATV & broadcast downlink equipment at the Ocala plant.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[DeserTBoB]

There is an abandoned C-band earthstation near here I'm trying to
track down. It was the only uplink built by Microdyne, and is supposed
to be the infamous site used by "Captain Midnight". <snip>

That wasn't the GTE DOMSAT station in Homosassa, FL, I'm sure. I
think that one was scrapped. It had two 105' Sylvania/Rohr bean
waveguide antennæ and Lenkurt GCE. It was a sister station to Sunset
Beach, HI (one antenna) and the main GTE station at Triunfo Pass, CA,
where I worked for years after AT&T bought it in 1986.

I worked for
Microdyne for a number of years and collect their odd limited run
products, but this one would fill my garage according to one of the
engineers who worked on the system design. For instance, I may have the
only surviving C-band signal generator they built for the production
line testing of CATV & broadcast downlink equipment at the Ocala plant. <snip>

Didn't Microdyne become part of Satellite Transmission Systems later
on? They're in Melboune.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

That wasn't the GTE DOMSAT station in Homosassa, FL, I'm sure. I
think that one was scrapped. It had two 105' Sylvania/Rohr bean
waveguide antennæ and Lenkurt GCE. It was a sister station to Sunset
Beach, HI (one antenna) and the main GTE station at Triunfo Pass, CA,
where I worked for years after AT&T bought it in 1986.

This was a smaller and newer facility from around 1990. I believe it
has a 10 meter dish. The thing that makes it interesting is that it
Microdyne only built one. A customer talked them into it, even though
they were only involved with microwave receivers and CATV security
equipment at the time.

Didn't Microdyne become part of Satellite Transmission Systems later
on? They're in Melboune.

They were bought out by L3-Com in 2000 and they closed the Ocala
plant in 2001 when they dropped 90% of the product line and moved to
Pennsylvania.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida