What Matters More? D6500 or "What looks best, personally"

[ChrisCoaster]

With all this talk about gray-scale and 6500K color temperature and ISF
and calibration, what is more important to most people?

Accurately and objectively presenting the intentions of directors,
producers, and writers of movies, plays, and shows for broadcast on TV
- or - allowing TV owners to adjust their sets to look they they "feel"
they should look.

One interesting factor here - most people - and probably none that
visit this newsgroup, are AFRAID to adjust the 5 basic controls. Or if
they are accessible only by hiting "Menu" on the remote as on all
modern sets, owners simply don't know how to get to the picture
controls. They assume that the picture as out of box is the "best" and
looks the way it's supposed to.

I'll open the floor with what matters to me: Getting as close as I can
to the 6500 ideal with the User controls and allowing as much of the
artistic intention through as can get through.

But again, what I want is not what everybody wants.

Opinions?

-ChrisCoaster

 

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ChrisCoaster:
Not everyone's eyes sees the same things in the same ways just like not
everyone's taste, hearing, feeling, reaction to medicines, etc can all
be quite different..... for example, the colors that people choose for
their home decorating, or types of food they like, etc, etc.... so,
while "standard settings" and presets are wonderful and a good standard
place to start, it is imperative, for me at least, to be able to adjust
colors, intensities, hues, sound parameters and all of those things to
my own taste and preference.... not to mention that not all program
material will look the same or sound the same. Just flip through a
dozen or so channels on your television, or play a dozen or so DVDs,
VCR tapes, CDs, etc, etc..... they can be vastly different in the way
they present themselves. So in conclusion, I could care less about
having a televison or sound system that is "perfectly" calibrated or
has absolutely "flat response" (the proverbial strait wire) and for
whatever (personal) reason I don't like the result.... I feel quite
free and not guilty at all to be able to adjust things the way I like
them according to what I see or hear with various sources.
electricitym
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Not only do people perceive colors differently, and have their own
differing opinions on aesthetics, the ambient light in a home theater
can cause the viewer's eyes to "white balance" in such a way that even
if the display is calibrated perfectly, it will appear tinted one way
or another.

I think that outside of this group's demographic, most people simply
don't understand the controls, but I know that many who do not have no
problem with adjusting them based on the "more is better" philosophy. I
remember some superbowl games at friends' houses that nearly gave me
flashbacks. Most people who do fiddle with the controls tend to make
everything too bright, in my experience. They never seem to notice that
anything white starts to bleed out and cover half the screen.

If you're producing material, though, the controls are needed and
applied differently. If you're doing video or graphics work, it's
important for your display to be as neutral as possible. At the
extreme, even the room lighting and decor need to be chromatically
neutral so that the production process does not skew the original
image. Likewise, recording studio loudspeakers are designed to be
completely flat in their frequency response. It might not sound very
good, but it ensures that what the producer is hearing is what's
actually being recorded. If the consumer wants to turn every eq knob
all the way up, that's his option.

When I set a system up, I check to make sure it's displaying a full
range of grays and that the tint looks right. Using a calibration disc
usually just ends up reminding me that I can't afford a $5000
television set.

 

[James Sweet]

With all this talk about gray-scale and 6500K color temperature and ISF
and calibration, what is more important to most people?

Accurately and objectively presenting the intentions of directors,
producers, and writers of movies, plays, and shows for broadcast on TV
- or - allowing TV owners to adjust their sets to look they they "feel"
they should look.

One interesting factor here - most people - and probably none that
visit this newsgroup, are AFRAID to adjust the 5 basic controls. Or if
they are accessible only by hiting "Menu" on the remote as on all
modern sets, owners simply don't know how to get to the picture
controls. They assume that the picture as out of box is the "best" and
looks the way it's supposed to.

I'll open the floor with what matters to me: Getting as close as I can
to the 6500 ideal with the User controls and allowing as much of the
artistic intention through as can get through.

But again, what I want is not what everybody wants.

Opinions?

-ChrisCoaster

I want my set to be calibrated as close as possible to what it should
be. Bugs the heck out of me when I'm at someone else's house and
everyone's face is pink on the TV or the color is WAY oversaturated.

 

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In a perfect world with perfect sources I would agree with your
statement.... but do you "dare" adjust the hue or saturation or other
adjustments when your viewing a source, tape, channel, etc that is NOT
the way you think it should be???
electricitym

 

[ChrisCoaster]

Your statement comes straight out of 1995, before calibration discs and
all that were widely available.

Here in 2005 we have numerous options, including V.E., D.V.E, and AVIA.
We have ISF certfied technicians who can adjust gray pallates and/or
color decoders to make large displays resemble movie theaters.
Annnnnnnnnnd, we have hook-up options, once available on only of every
10 TVs, now common place that blow away both coaxial(cable) and
composite(RCA).

At minimum, an adjustment of the "basic 5" should be done with one of
the above DVDs, with composite inputs. If the set has S-VIDEO, even
better-SPEND THE 8 BUCKS FOR A SHORT S-VIDEO CABLE AND USE THE DAMN
THING!! Component? You get the idea.

Anything beats the alternatives: Leaving the factory settings alone or
personally jacking up Color, Sharpness, etc, thinking it "looks good".

Welcome to the 21st!

-CC