Vista

[JosephKK]

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:01 +0000
From: "Clive D. W. Feather" <[email protected]>
Subject: The risks of upgrading

As a result of an upgrade to Vista in Ohio's Marietta High School computer
systems, previously protected student information and photos were able to be
accessed by unauthorized people. "It appears the students were interested
in making changes to their photos in the school cafeteria system." The
photos and a student ID are used to verify charges for lunches, and
officials suspected some students were manipulating the system to avoid
paying for lunches. [Source: Marietta Times <http://www.mariettatimes.com>,
PGN-ed]

Clive D.W. Feather +44 20 8495 6138 http://www.davros.org

 

[Joerg]

Check this out:
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:01 +0000
From: "Clive D. W. Feather" <[email protected]>
Subject: The risks of upgrading

As a result of an upgrade to Vista in Ohio's Marietta High School computer
systems, previously protected student information and photos were able
to be
accessed by unauthorized people. "It appears the students were interested
in making changes to their photos in the school cafeteria system." The
photos and a student ID are used to verify charges for lunches, and
officials suspected some students were manipulating the system to avoid
paying for lunches. [Source: Marietta Times
<http://www.mariettatimes.com>,
PGN-ed]

Clive D.W. Feather +44 20 8495 6138 http://www.davros.org

So there is such a thing as a free lunch then?

 

[Robert Baer]

Check this out:
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:01 +0000
From: "Clive D. W. Feather" <[email protected]>
Subject: The risks of upgrading

As a result of an upgrade to Vista in Ohio's Marietta High School
computer
systems, previously protected student information and photos were able
to be
accessed by unauthorized people. "It appears the students were
interested
in making changes to their photos in the school cafeteria system." The
photos and a student ID are used to verify charges for lunches, and
officials suspected some students were manipulating the system to avoid
paying for lunches. [Source: Marietta Times
<http://www.mariettatimes.com>,
PGN-ed]

Clive D.W. Feather +44 20 8495 6138 http://www.davros.org

So there is such a thing as a free lunch then?

....not quite; the taxpayers will pay one way or the other.

 

[MooseFET]

JosephKK wrote:

Check this out:
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:01 +0000
From: "Clive D. W. Feather" <[email protected]>
Subject: The risks of upgrading
As a result of an upgrade to Vista in Ohio's Marietta High School
computer
systems, previously protected student information and photos were able
to be
accessed by unauthorized people. "It appears the students were
interested
in making changes to their photos in the school cafeteria system." The
photos and a student ID are used to verify charges for lunches, and
officials suspected some students were manipulating the system to avoid
paying for lunches. [Source: Marietta Times
<http://www.mariettatimes.com>,
PGN-ed]
Clive D.W. Feather +44 20 8495 6138 http://www.davros.org

So there is such a thing as a free lunch then?

...not quite; the taxpayers will pay one way or the other.

....not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

 

[Brendan Gillatt]

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:01 +0000
From: "Clive D. W. Feather" <[email protected]>
Subject: The risks of upgrading

As a result of an upgrade to Vista in Ohio's Marietta High School computer
systems, previously protected student information and photos were able
to be
accessed by unauthorized people. "It appears the students were interested
in making changes to their photos in the school cafeteria system." The
photos and a student ID are used to verify charges for lunches, and
officials suspected some students were manipulating the system to avoid
paying for lunches. [Source: Marietta Times
<http://www.mariettatimes.com>,
PGN-ed]

Clive D.W. Feather +44 20 8495 6138 http://www.davros.org

How on earth does an upgrade to Vista allow that? Surely they'd still be
running server 2003 on their servers and only the desktops would have
Vista. If the files were writeable with Vista they'd be writeable with
any other version of windows.

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[[email protected]]

How on earth does an upgrade to Vista allow that? Surely they'd still be

running server 2003 on their servers and only the desktops would have
Vista. If the files were writeable with Vista they'd be writeable with
any other version of windows.

Proberbly the same judgement on database app that made them choose MS-Vista.
Not a wise choice for any serious security.

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

If the files were writeable with Vista they'd be writeable with
any other version of windows.

Wrong.

Encrypted file systems are only accessible to OSes that are compliant
with such file systems. That would not include "any other version of
windows". Also even an non-encrypted NTFS file system on Vista is not
able to be accessed on an older Windows box that has not been upgraded,
and there are thousands of them.

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

Proberbly the same judgement on database app that made them choose MS-Vista.
Not a wise choice for any serious security.

As if you would even know.

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Check this out:
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:01 +0000
From: "Clive D. W. Feather" <[email protected]>
Subject: The risks of upgrading

As a result of an upgrade to Vista in Ohio's Marietta High School computer
systems, previously protected student information and photos were able to be
accessed by unauthorized people. "It appears the students were interested
in making changes to their photos in the school cafeteria system." The
photos and a student ID are used to verify charges for lunches, and
officials suspected some students were manipulating the system to avoid
paying for lunches. [Source: Marietta Times <http://www.mariettatimes.com>,
PGN-ed]

Clive D.W. Feather +44 20 8495 6138 http://www.davros.org

This doesn't seem logical.

If I built an identification system based on stored photos, modifying
those photos would cause identification to fail, and so with the entire
transaction.

Of course, if numerous entries were corrupted, the administration might
opt to hand out lunches for free rather than argue with a bunch of
crying, hungry kids.

 

[Jim Thompson]

[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

Crap! If you listen closely to Obama's double-talk, he's going to
spend even more... by taxing you "rich" guys ;-)

...Jim Thompson

 

[Joerg]

MooseFET wrote:
[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

Crap! If you listen closely to Obama's double-talk, he's going to
spend even more... by taxing you "rich" guys ;-)

Come to California. Then you all really know what "living beyond the
means" is all about.

 

[Joerg]

Wrong.

Encrypted file systems are only accessible to OSes that are compliant
with such file systems. That would not include "any other version of
windows". Also even an non-encrypted NTFS file system on Vista is not
able to be accessed on an older Windows box that has not been upgraded,
and there are thousands of them.

You mean they blew yet another backwards compatibility? What were the
guys in Redmond thinking?

Luckily I don't have to deal with that.

 

[donald]

You mean they blew yet another backwards compatibility? What were the
guys in Redmond thinking?

I think the term is: RSHs *

Luckily I don't have to deal with that.

*Red Short Hairs

 

[Jim Thompson]

MooseFET wrote:

[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

Crap! If you listen closely to Obama's double-talk, he's going to
spend even more... by taxing you "rich" guys ;-)

That's fine by me. I believe in paying for what I want.

Sure you do. But how about paying for what _other_people_ want?

...Jim Thompson

 

[krw]

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:09:11 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

MooseFET wrote:

[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

Crap! If you listen closely to Obama's double-talk, he's going to
spend even more... by taxing you "rich" guys ;-)

That's fine by me. I believe in paying for what I want.

Sure you do. But how about paying for what _other_people_ want?

He's no different than any other leftist weenie. He doesn't mind us
paying for his feel-good programs.

 

[krw]

I think the term is: RSHs *


*Red Short Hairs

Sure, then they can DRM your data and rent it back to you.

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

Crap! If you listen closely to Obama's double-talk, he's going to
spend even more... by taxing you "rich" guys ;-)

That's fine by me. I believe in paying for what I want.

 

[MakeNoAttemptToAdjustYourSet]

[snip]

...not if the world ends before the national debt has to be paid. Any
money that is left when the rapture comes will just go to waste.

You appear to have just summarized GOP fiscal policy in one sentence.

Interestingly funny...

 

[ChairmanOfTheBored]

You mean they blew yet another backwards compatibility?

Since media encryption at the consumer level wasn't even around back
then, I'd say they blew nothing.

What were the
guys in Redmond thinking?

A lot about our wallets.

Luckily I don't have to deal with that.

Money? Must be nice. Most of the rest of us do.