Vista 10SE powering up in STAY mode

[Chris Lewis]

Hi, all

I am trying to help out a friend. His monitoring contract ran out on a
Brinks system that he had installed when purchasing the house two years ago.
Brinks removed a Vista 10SE, which I now want to reinstall.

It checks out okay, and the programming seems adequate for his use. I found
(purchased) the instructions for putting in a new installer's code. It will
accept the code, and operate just fine, UNTIL the power is removed (AC and
battery). It will always come up in "STAY" mode and the new code is lost.

How do I get around this one?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Crash Gordon®]

It "should" come up the way it went down. I've never had one lose a code though.

 

[Jim Rojas]

Give me a call. If all else fails, I can try to remote program the system
for you.

Jim Rojas
(813) 884-6335 Cell

 

[Bossman]

Try disarming with the universal ambush code.

Bossman

 

[no wires showing]

Shhhhhhhhhh that makes too much sense.

 

[Jim Rojas]

That's why it's not in the user or installation manual...

Jim Rojas

 

[Mark Leuck]

Try powering up the panel while holding the police panic keys

 

[Crash Gordon®]

Isn't that the old method of bringin up the installer code on older panels?

 

[Jim Rojas]

When all else fails try the following:

Step 1 - Approach the ailing panel in a confident manner. This will
give the panel the mistaken idea that you know something. This will
also impress anyone who happens to be looking, and if the panel should
suddenly start working, you'll be credited with its repair. If this
fails to work, proceed to step two.

Step 2 - Wave the installation manual at the panel. This will
make it assume that you are at least familiar with the source of
knowledge. Should this fail to work, proceed to step three.


Step 3 - In a forcible manner, recite ohm's law to the panel (Caution!
Before taking this drastic step, refer to a reliable book to be sure
of your knowledge of Ohm's law). This will prove to the panel beyond a
shadow of a doubt, that you know something. If this step fails,
proceed to step four.


Step 4 - Jar the panel slightly. This may require anything from
a three to six foot drop. However, you must be careful with this step
because while jarring is an approved method of repair, you must not
mar the floor. (The owner of the panel must not be allowed to watch
this technique being applied). This is a very drastic method. If it
fails, proceed to step five.


Step 5 - Brandish a large Phillips screwdriver in a menacing
manner. This will frighten the panel and demonstrate your knowledge of
the deadly "short circuit" repair technique. If this fails, proceed to
step six.


Step 6 - Manually bypass a zone or device... Even if the
circuit is fine. This will prove that you are familiar with the panels
design. This will confuse the panel and thereby increase your
advantage. If this doesn't work, proceed to the most drastic and
dangerous step. It is seldom needed and is a final resort if all else
fails.




Isn't that the old method of bringin up the installer code on older panels?

 

[Crash Gordon®]

I find that just cursing at it works pretty well, and threatening to trow it out da wnder.

 

[Robert L. Bass]

I find that just cursing at it works pretty well,

and threatening to trow it out da wnder.

Mugsy prefers to replace the panel with something he knows. Presumably
there is at least one panel that he knows... somewhere.

When that fails he contacts Mark Reddinger and whines. Reddinger doesn't
know much either, especially about Florida statutes but that's a different
issue.

Bob Worthy probably knows what I mean. :^)

 

[Frank Olson]

Mugsy prefers to replace the panel with something he knows. Presumably
there is at least one panel that he knows... somewhere.

And you sell panels you know very little about, seldom recommend or answer
questions on, and have no actual experience installing... Your customers
frequently complain they can't get ahold of you... Hmmmm... Somehow I
doubt "Mugsy" has much to worry about with your particular business model...
or your opinions...

 

[no wires showing]

Sigmund Freud wouldn't know what you mean.
Look at your fat ass trying to instigate trouble between Bob Worthy and
Norm Mugford.
Here we go.......... Bass will now proclaim in-depth conversations with
Bob Worthy. I have obtained a transcript of their conversation.

Ringgggggggggg Ringgggggggggggg Ringgggggggggggg

BW- "Hello?"

Bass- "Um Yes I am looking for Bob Worthy who posts to ASA"

BW- "Yes I am Bob Worthy how can I help you?"

Bass- "This is Robert Bass and I'd like to be pals"

BW- "Kay? Oh no speekuh ummm Kay. No habla"

Bass- "but you just said you were Bob Worthy"

BW- "No comprende"

CLICK

Ringgggggggggg Ringggggggggg Ringgggggggggg

BW- "hello?"

Bass- "Bob this is Robert Bass what........'

BW- "Harrow Misstuh Charlieson you wantee Poke Flied Lice wiff uh
Brockerie?"

Bass- "Huh? Is this Bob Worthy?"

BW - "You no wan Poke Flied Lice mebbe you ront uh Rite Lice"

Bass- "Excuse me, who are you calling RITE? I'm PRINK"

CLICK

Ringggggggggggggg Ringggggggggggggggg Ringgggggggg

BW- "Hello?"

Bass- "Bob is that you? Bob I need to pretend we actually talk
and........"

BW- "Umma gowwa Binga Boonga Mollie Wallie"

Bass- "Oh I'm sorry I must have speed dialed the in-laws by
mistake......."

CLICK

Ringggggggggg......... Ringggggggggggg............ Ringggggggggggg

BW- "Hello?"

Bass- "Hi this is Jim Rojas how are you?"

BW- " Jim Rojas? You sound an awful lot like Robert Bass"

Bass- "Did I say Jim Rojas? I am so sorry this is Larry Roberts, a
close friend of Mike Sabodish"

BW- "You still sound an awful lot like Bass. Do you mind if I ask you
just one question to prove you're not Robert Bass?"

Bass- "ummmm OK"

BW- "Are you White?"

Bass- "Excuse me, who are you calling white? I'm PINK"

CLICK

30 minutes later a post appears in ASA authored by Bass (he had to take
a snack break if you were wondering about the time lapse)

Bass- "After a detailed, and informative conversation with my good pal
Bob Worthy, as well as local suppliers, I have ascertained that Norm
Mugford is actually Norma Jean Mugford.
Norma has incessantly stalked Bob Worthy, and made sexual advances, but
I'm no gossip monger.
Bob is a frequent guest at my home and he adores my famous
cheeseburgers. He's often commented on how they remind me of the Double
Cheeseburger from MCDonalds, but I told him they are worlds apart and
to pay no mind to the wrapper as I use that only to keep flies away.
Bob and I are now combining our buying power to force Ademco tech
support to field calls from me without laughing when I ask them what
the * and # keys are for on the keypad.
And for what it's worth, I'm not white, I'm PINK!"

1/2 a Shalom

Robert Bass
http://www.BassMailOrderBrides.com
123 Mom's House
Sarasota, FL

 

[Robert L. Bass]

Sigmund Freud wouldn't know what you mean.

Perhaps not, but I'm sure he'd have an interesting time figuring you out.

...instigate trouble between Bob Worthy and
Norm Mugford.

Wrong again. Mugsy was the instigator. Reddinger carried out the RL
attack. The reason Bob knows is Ronald Toole cc'd him three e-mail messages
which he sent to Reddinger and Neely (a state employee) beforehand. The
messages were dated June 24 and July 1, 2004.

There was a series of e-mails between Ronald Toole and Mark Reddinger.
Toole used to live at 153 Richpien Rd., Fort Walton Beach. He may have
since moved and changed his phone number. His state license number --
EFA000925 -- still indicates the same address though.

Here we go.......... Bass will now proclaim
in-depth conversations with Bob Worthy.

Wrong again. About the only communications I've had with Bob Worthy outside
this newsgroup have been a couple of clients I referred to him. We've never
spoken about Reddinger, Toole or the e-mails he sent to Bob. I received a
print-out though not from Bob.

The good part about this was that these jerks used the exact same argument
that Olson and several other ASA morons used -- that by being in Florida I
need a Florida license to provide out-of-state services. The state
investigator looked into it and determined that I don't need a license to
sell online or to contract with clients located outside Florida for services
rendered by an out-of-state central station. Basically, he said exactly
what I've been telling these morons for years.

A small side benefit was showing a state investigator tons of vitriolic
filth posted by none other than Norm Mugford. He was aghast at the vile,
inappropriate behavior of a clearly biased state official. Needless to say,
his investigation left a very bad impression of Mugford among state
employees in the DBPR. Whether they actually do anything about Mugford or
just put up with him because no other alarm installer wants to spend the
time sitting on the ECLB to replace him is another matter. Unfortunately,
there are very few people in the industry who are willing to do it. Only
Mugford, who hopes to capitalize on his position by telling prospective vict
....er, customers that he's a board member, is currently available. Perhaps
if the ECLB paid a living wage they could hire someone with actual
qualifications instead of that vulgar, miserable vermin who ought not to be
allowed anywhere near a state office.

Other than that, Norm is almost as despicable but not quite as dishonest as
you, Fowler. :^)

 

[Frank Olson]

... that by being in Florida I need a Florida license to provide
out-of-state services.

Never said that. What I did say is that you need a Florida license to
provide service *in Florida* which you have on several occasions clearly
admitted to doing (this includes layout, design and "instructional
services"). You've even admitted to providing actual hands-on service, the
latest one being the supposed "removal" of a Brinks panel. I just love the
way you twist words, Robert. Do please continue...

 

[Frank Olson]

A small side benefit was showing a state investigator tons of vitriolic
filth posted by none other than Norm Mugford. He was aghast at the vile,
inappropriate behavior of a clearly biased state official.

Did you also show him some of the posts you've made where-in you alluded to
individuals you don't like being child molesters, racists, liars, and "using
company resources to perform illegal credit checks"??

 

[no wires showing]

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Sigmund Freud wouldn't know what you mean.

Perhaps not, but I'm sure he'd have an interesting time figuring you out.<

I'm surprised you didn't claim he was related to you.

...instigate trouble between Bob Worthy and
Norm Mugford.

Wrong again. Mugsy was the instigator.<

Oh poor you. You're always the victim aren't you, tubby?
Everyone picks on Bobby.

Reddinger carried out the RL

attack.<

Yeah the conspiracy to take down the Bass Home conglomerate was hatched
at State HQ. Everyone is plotting against you.
If you weren't such an egotistal fatass your paranoia would shine thru.

The reason Bob knows is Ronald Toole cc'd him three e-mail messages

which he sent to Reddinger and Neely (a state employee) beforehand.
The
messages were dated June 24 and July 1, 2004.

There was a series of e-mails between Ronald Toole and Mark Reddinger.
Toole used to live at 153 Richpien Rd., Fort Walton Beach. He may have

since moved and changed his phone number. His state license number --

EFA000925 -- still indicates the same address though. <

Lemme guess, you planted a mole inside their organization?

Here we go.......... Bass will now proclaim
in-depth conversations with Bob Worthy.

Wrong again. About the only communications I've had with Bob Worthy outside

this newsgroup have been a couple of clients I referred to him.<

Referrals from you? Mommy decided to drop you and search for a
reputable provider? All of these clients you sent Bob's way must have
him rolling in dough.

We've never spoken about Reddinger, Toole or the e-mails he sent to Bob.<

Worthy hangs up when he hears your voice.

I received a print-out though not from Bob. <

Is it from the same source that told you I spent time in a New Mexico
prison, or from the source that told you my company wasn't licensed?
Here's the clue again fatty.... Milford Alarm INC.
See that INC.? Here's another clue....... Robert Toth. You're such a
dope.

The good part about this was that these jerks used the exact same argument

that Olson and several other ASA morons used -- that by being in
Florida I
need a Florida license to provide out-of-state services. The state
investigator looked into it and determined that I don't need a license
to
sell online or to contract with clients located outside Florida for
services
rendered by an out-of-state central station. Basically, he said
exactly
what I've been telling these morons for years.<

Listen 1/2 a Weinstein you DON'T (see that?) need a license to SELL
equipment in Florida, but when you venture into SERVICE then a license
is required. Being that you're a convicted felon you're unable to
obtain a Florida license. You're breaking the very same laws you
accused me of breaking.
Here's the difference, nobody believes your claims against me, and we
all know the claims against you are fact.
Your attempt at spin does nothing but add more comedy to your usual
baloney.

A small side benefit was showing a state investigator tons of vitriolic

filth posted by none other than Norm Mugford. He was aghast at the
vile,
inappropriate behavior of a clearly biased state official.<

Post the name and the # of this "aghast" individual. Let's verfiy it.
Hell, I'll record the call and post it in here for all to hear.

Needless to say,<

Like everything that eminates from your vocal chords

his investigation left a very bad impression of Mugford among state

employees in the DBPR. Whether they actually do anything about Mugford
or
just put up with him because no other alarm installer wants to spend
the
time sitting on the ECLB to replace him is another matter.<

Once again state officials agree with Robert Bass, and his total
disregard for the law. You just have that political mojo. You're the
power broker in the industry. The EF Hutton of alarms.
We're all in awe of the stroke you have in this business.
You and your 2 panel a month operation just bring Mugford's associates
to worship at your feet.

Unfortunately,

there are very few people in the industry who are willing to do it.<

Just force them to do it. Use the force Obi One Baloney.

Only Mugford, who hopes to capitalize on his position by telling

prospective vict
....er, customers that he's a board member, is currently available.<

So Mugford's clients are victims? Let's see, the newsgroup regulars who
victimize clients are now:

Me (I love being first)
Mike
Jim Alarmin
Norm Mugford
Andy Bowman
Mark Mazzarese
Jake Ashbury
Frank Olsen
Rodney
Mikey
Jack Stevens
Robert Skinner
wait this list takes too long. Let's post the list of people you claim
are top notch:

Robert Campbell (who is thrilled he lives in Canada so you will never
visit)

Jim Rojas (who has promised to give you a swift kick in the ass)

Bob Worthy (who probably purchased Caller ID to avoid your calls)

Perhaps

if the ECLB paid a living wage they could hire someone with actual
qualifications instead of that vulgar, miserable vermin who ought not
to be
allowed anywhere near a state office.<

A living wage? Is this from the assknocker who sells tube tops on his
alarm website to earn a few extra bucks, or is it from the 50 some odd
year old douchebag who had to live with mommy after the divorce because
expenses were too high?

Other than that, Norm is almost as despicable but not quite as dishonest as

you, Fowler. :^)<

How many police background checks have you passed lately?
I bet the following line was honest too.
"Excuse me, who are you calling white? I'm PINK!"

 

[no wires showing]

Egotistical was the word. Typo city tonight.

 

[Robert L. Bass]

Oh poor you. You're always the victim aren't you...

Naah. They gave it their best shot and missed by a mile.

Everyone is plotting against you.

Nope. Just a couple of Mugford's drinking buddies.

Lemme guess, you planted a mole inside
their organization?

Totally unnecesary, jerk. The state investigator forwarded everything to me
in an envelop along with his decision that their claims were without merit.
"RL attack dismissed."

Referrals from you?

Yep. Ask Bob Worthy.

All of these clients you sent Bob's way
must have him rolling in dough.

I think there were only two or three. I never asked afterward I hope he got
some business from them.

Worthy hangs up when he hears your voice.

You wish. Truth is I don't recall if we ever spoke by phone or if it was
e-mail. I know he told me what his service area is because I planned to
send him an occasional client.

Is it from the same source that told you I spent
time in a New Mexico prison, or from the source
that told you my company wasn't licensed?

Nope. An agent with the CT Dept of Consumer Protection told me you were
unlicensed. He told me you had applied for a permit as a "home improvement
contractor" which does not require a license. You were engaged in alarm
installation contracting -- a licensed trade -- and you even admitted you
didn't have the license.

Milford Alarm INC.
See that INC.?
Here's another clue....... Robert Toth.

Incorporation does nothing to obviate the requirement of a license.
Connecticut doesn't license corporations. It is you who were operating as
an unlicensed contractor. Toth didn't agree to sign for you until long
after you began installing. At no time did you ever apply for a license in
Connecticut.

You're such a dope.

That's like Sabodish saying I'm uneducated. :^)

when you venture into SERVICE then a license
is required [in Florida]...

Since I don't service alarms in Florida the state agrees with me that I
don't need a Florida license. Feel free to play again.

Being that you're a convicted felon you're
unable to obtain a Florida license...

Wrong again. I could and would get a Florida license if I wanted to
install. However, I wouldn't even consider taking the pay cut. I make more
in one day selling online than most installer make in a week -- even crooked
scam artists like you.

You're breaking the very same laws you
accused me of breaking...

The state of Florida sayds you're wrong.

Post the name and the # of this "aghast" individual.

I don't have his number but you can look it up easily enough. It's a public
record, available online if you know where to look.

Let's verfiy it.

Go right ahead... not that you'd ever publicly admit finding out how wrong
you are.

Hell, I'll record the call and post it in here for all to hear.

Ummm, this is a text medium.

Once again state officials agree with Robert Bass...

I'm still here doing the same business I was years ago when you and several
other morons claimed I was going to be shut down "any day now".

You just have that political mojo. You're the
power broker in the industry. The EF Hutton
of alarms.

Not quite but I'll wager I do more business than you asnd half the other
members of the IB.

We're all in awe of the stroke you have in this
business. You and your 2 panel a month
operation just bring Mugford's associates to
worship at your feet.

I wondered what he was doing down there. :^)

Just force them to do it...

Naah. It's more fun watching Mugford do his imitation of a Keystone Cop
high on amphetamines.

Let's post the list of people you claim
are top notch:

Robert Campbell (who is thrilled he lives in
Canada so you will never visit)

Bob has promised to visit one of these days. He's one of the few here with
whom I'd associate.

Jim Rojas (who has promised to give you a
swift kick in the ass)

Think so?

Bob Worthy (who probably purchased Caller ID to avoid your calls)

Speaking of fundamental misunderstanding.

A living wage?

Care to guess how much they pay? It's pretty pathetic but then again, you
might be impressed with the amount.

Is this from the assknocker who sells tube
tops on his alarm website to earn a few
extra bucks...

You've got an ADI account (finally). Ask your rep. They get about 1/3 of
my total business.

 

[Frank Olson]

Totally unnecesary, jerk. The state investigator forwarded everything to
me in an envelop along with his decision that their claims were without
merit. "RL attack dismissed."

Who was this "state investigator"??

Yep. Ask Bob Worthy.


I think there were only two or three. I never asked afterward I hope he
got some business from them.


You wish. Truth is I don't recall if we ever spoke by phone or if it was
e-mail. I know he told me what his service area is because I planned to
send him an occasional client.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! You don't "remember" if you ever "spoke
by phone or if it was email"??? You're way too funny, Robert....

Nope. An agent with the CT Dept of Consumer Protection told me you were
unlicensed. He told me you had applied for a permit as a "home
improvement contractor" which does not require a license. You were
engaged in alarm installation contracting -- a licensed trade -- and you
even admitted you didn't have the license.

Wait... let me get this straight... You deny ratting out Tom, yet you
spoke with an "agent with the CT Dept. of Consumer Protection"...
Hmmmm.... Was he anything like the "state investigator"??? Or your
"pilot/engineer" friend??

Milford Alarm INC.
See that INC.?
Here's another clue....... Robert Toth.

Incorporation does nothing to obviate the requirement of a license.
Connecticut doesn't license corporations. It is you who were operating as
an unlicensed contractor. Toth didn't agree to sign for you until long
after you began installing. At no time did you ever apply for a license
in Connecticut.

You're such a dope.

That's like Sabodish saying I'm uneducated. :^)

when you venture into SERVICE then a license
is required [in Florida]...

Since I don't service alarms in Florida the state agrees with me that I
don't need a Florida license. Feel free to play again.

Wrong... You were directly involved in removing a Brinks panel. You
admitted to doing so right here!!

Wrong again. I could and would get a Florida license if I wanted to
install. However, I wouldn't even consider taking the pay cut. I make
more in one day selling online than most installer make in a week -- even
crooked scam artists like you.

So you'll continue to *service* alarms, *layout* and *design* systems...
all of which require a license in Florida...

The state of Florida sayds you're wrong.

You must have some sort of correspondence from the state of Florida. You
"say" you talk to various "officials" all the time... prove it!!

I don't have his number but you can look it up easily enough. It's a
public record, available online if you know where to look.

Uh-huh... So how is anyone going to look him up if you won't give up the
name??

Go right ahead... not that you'd ever publicly admit finding out how wrong
you are.

We'll need a little more information first. Like the name of the individual
you spoke to or emailed. Of course if you don't "remember" whether you
spoke to him on the phone, or contacted him through email, we'll understand.

Ummm, this is a text medium.

Yeah... true... but it's fairly easy to post attachments here...

You've got an ADI account (finally). Ask your rep. They get about 1/3 of
my total business.

Uh-huh... Since you've "confessed" to selling 1.5 million a year in a
previous post and (after deducting the modest markup you say you apply),
you're now telling us you do about 350,000 a year with ADI? Right Robert...
You're *still* working out of your house. You're *still* a one-man show.
How far do you figure you can "stretch" this latest fiction??