TI has wrecked their web site

[John Larkin]

....again!

It's all Flashed now. And just try right-clicking on a datasheet -
once you find it - to save the pdf file.

John

 

[Joerg]

Hello John,

...again!

It's all Flashed now. And just try right-clicking on a datasheet -
once you find it - to save the pdf file.

I can still read it w/o flash. Right click doesn't work, you can only
open the pdf and then save. Just did that with the 430F2013 data sheet
which I am going need. But Acrobat has its own little shortcomings like
grinding on an empty floppy drive until you hit cancel. Rather stupid.

The TI site is now loaded with fluff and slower than ever. Not nearly as
poorly design as the Philips site and many other EU sites but they are
going in that direction. Sometimes I wonder what possesses them to do
that. I did write on occasion but since they don't seem to listen I quit
doing that.

Regards, Joerg

 

[Dave]

...again!

It's all Flashed now. And just try right-clicking on a datasheet -
once you find it - to save the pdf file.

John

I don't enable Flash. Can you give an example of a particular
datasheet?

 

[Jonathan Kirwan]

...again!

It's all Flashed now. And just try right-clicking on a datasheet -
once you find it - to save the pdf file.

John

I went into my registry and disabled macromedia flash so that it is
silently ignored, but causes little trouble. Now that I'm looking at
TI's site with IE, I get a big white margin at the top -- but nothing
to see at all. That's on the top page (www.ti.com), but on the other
pages I went to, this white margin is gone. The PDF links appear to
work well for me, still.

Jon

 

[John Larkin]

I don't enable Flash. Can you give an example of a particular
datasheet?

I use Flashblock in Firefox, so I don't get headaches from all that
Hollywood Flashcrap.


http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ina114.html

The datasheet link (which should be prominent at the top of the page)
is way down at the bottom. If you right-click to save, the filename
comes up as "getliterature.tsp". The file turns out to be, in fact,
the .pdf, so you can rename it in the browser's "save" dialog, to
"INA114.pdf" or whatever.

So why isn't it just INA114.PDF anyhow?

And they've gone from a simple heirarchical list of products to the
"arbitrarily grouped applications" and "very slow parametric search"
paradigms. Yuk.

John

 

[Pooh Bear]

Hello John,


I can still read it w/o flash. Right click doesn't work, you can only
open the pdf and then save.

It's fine in Opera.

Right click and 'save target as'.

I'm no fan of fluff generally though.


Graham

 

[Joerg]

Hello John,

And they've gone from a simple heirarchical list of products to the
"arbitrarily grouped applications" and "very slow parametric search"
paradigms. Yuk.

The next step is likely going to be worse. Then you have to memorize all
their trade names like other mfgs require that. Else you won't find the
parts. Nexperia and all that. This would take the cake in terms
marketing blunders.

Regards, Joerg

 

[Pooh Bear]

I use Flashblock in Firefox, so I don't get headaches from all that
Hollywood Flashcrap.

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ina114.html

The datasheet link (which should be prominent at the top of the page)
is way down at the bottom.

Not using Opera.

It's at the top as usual.

If you right-click to save, the filename
comes up as "getliterature.tsp".

Opera offers 'save target as ( ina114.pdf) '.

The file turns out to be, in fact,
the .pdf, so you can rename it in the browser's "save" dialog, to
"INA114.pdf" or whatever.

So why isn't it just INA114.PDF anyhow?

And they've gone from a simple heirarchical list of products to the
"arbitrarily grouped applications" and "very slow parametric search"
paradigms. Yuk.

Why not try Opera ?

Graham

 

[qrk]

Hello John,



I can still read it w/o flash. Right click doesn't work, you can only
open the pdf and then save. Just did that with the 430F2013 data sheet
which I am going need. But Acrobat has its own little shortcomings like
grinding on an empty floppy drive until you hit cancel. Rather stupid.

The TI site is now loaded with fluff and slower than ever. Not nearly as
poorly design as the Philips site and many other EU sites but they are
going in that direction. Sometimes I wonder what possesses them to do
that. I did write on occasion but since they don't seem to listen I quit
doing that.

Regards, Joerg

I have no problems saving PDFs from TI using Firefox. Sure, I can't
right click and save, but I open the PDF and save from Acrobat. In
Firefox, I modified my all.js file (under greprefs) and commented out
the Acrobat line. This causes the PDF to be viewed in Acrobat instead
of your browser. TI's site seems like it only uses bits and pieces of
Flash. A 100% Flash site really sucks, especially for a technical
company. Any company that has a 100% Flash site doesn't get my
business because it's too painful to find information.

Seems that many companies are trying to please the investors with
pretty graphics and leave their customers battling slow fluffy web
sites. Chalk it up to "professional" management (management with no
expertise in the product) where company success is measured in number
of colors in the web site home page.

 

[John Larkin]

Not using Opera.

It's at the top as usual.

Oh, right. I clicked on the top-most likely candidate, "technical
documents", which jumped me down near the bottom, where the datasheet
appears again.

Opera offers 'save target as ( ina114.pdf) '.

Strange. I guess they didn't test it with Firefox.

Why not try Opera ?

Firefox works fine; I'd been using Netscape since way before there was
an IE or Opera. I like the extensions, and they make a great t-shirt.

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

Oh, right. I clicked on the top-most likely candidate, "technical
documents", which jumped me down near the bottom, where the datasheet
appears again.



Strange. I guess they didn't test it with Firefox.



Firefox works fine; I'd been using Netscape since way before there was
an IE or Opera. I like the extensions, and they make a great t-shirt.

John

I'm using Firefox with JS and Flash blocked... works just fine.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Pooh Bear]

Oh, right. I clicked on the top-most likely candidate, "technical
documents", which jumped me down near the bottom, where the datasheet
appears again.


Strange. I guess they didn't test it with Firefox.


Firefox works fine; I'd been using Netscape since way before there was
an IE or Opera. I like the extensions, and they make a great t-shirt.

John

Well, I was an early fan of Netscape too. I recall downoading those beta
versions of Netscape 2 before it was even officially launched. A great
improvement over Mosaic !

Time moves on though........

Graham

 

[Uwe Bonnes]

I don't enable Flash. Can you give an example of a particular
datasheet?

[/QUOTE]

I use Flashblock in Firefox, so I don't get headaches from all that
Hollywood Flashcrap.


The datasheet link (which should be prominent at the top of the page)
is way down at the bottom. If you right-click to save, the filename
comes up as "getliterature.tsp". The file turns out to be, in fact,
the .pdf, so you can rename it in the browser's "save" dialog, to
"INA114.pdf" or whatever.

So why isn't it just INA114.PDF anyhow?

Even worse is the LT website.

Links are given as
http://www.linear.com/pc/downloadDocument.\
do?navId=H0,C1,C1155,C1001,C1150,P13693,D9659

(example given for the LTC2208)

Why not have plain links with some sensible name? Atmel saves all the
datasheets as docxxxx.pdf. Very easy to memorize...

 

[Pooh Bear]

Even worse is the LT website.

Links are given as
http://www.linear.com/pc/downloadDocument.\
do?navId=H0,C1,C1155,C1001,C1150,P13693,D9659

(example given for the LTC2208)

Works fine in Opera !

Either right click or left click !

Graham

 

[Uwe Bonnes]

Works fine in Opera !

Either right click or left click !

Save it and look at the descriptibe name...

 

[Uwe Bonnes]

Works fine in Opera !

Either right click or left click !

Save it and look at the descriptive name...

 

[Dave]

I use Flashblock in Firefox, so I don't get headaches from all that
Hollywood Flashcrap.

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ina114.html

The datasheet link (which should be prominent at the top of the page)
is way down at the bottom. If you right-click to save, the filename
comes up as "getliterature.tsp". The file turns out to be, in fact,
the .pdf, so you can rename it in the browser's "save" dialog, to
"INA114.pdf" or whatever.

I'm not sure I see the same thing. I see a datasheet link with the
label "download" a few inches from the top of the page. I click on that
and Firefox asks me if I want to download the PDF. I end up with a pdf
file on my desktop. I have Firefox set to never open a PDF. I don't
have Flash installed because Flashblock couldn't always block it.

 

[Pooh Bear]

Save it and look at the descriptive name...

2208f.pdf

Graham

 

[Uwe Bonnes]

Uwe Bonnes wrote:

2208f.pdf

wget "http://www.linear.com/pc/downloadDocument.do?navId=H0,C1,C1155,C1001,C1150,P13693,D9659"

dosen't resolve to 2208f.pdf.

wget on the TI site
wget "http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?genericPartNumber=tlv1117"

resolves to a sensible name..

 

[Pooh Bear]

wget "http://www.linear.com/pc/downloadDocument.do?navId=H0,C1,C1155,C1001,C1150,P13693,D9659"

dosen't resolve to 2208f.pdf.

It damn well does in Opera !

Shall I post a screenshot in abse ?

Graham