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Unknown

Jan 1, 1970
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I saw something on slashdot about this the other day:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/25/2050253
There's a real sexy pic of one from the article:
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16736&ch=biztech

Seems like a great idea, they are seperating the incoming light with a
prism/diffraction grate sorta filter and concentrating only the useful
portion of the spectrum which keeps the silicon from roasting.
 
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John Beardmore

Jan 1, 1970
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In message <[email protected]>,
Yes, this all looks pretty cool, but you have to wonder about:

a) How long a hologram, which is typically printed on plastic media,
will last. Presumably, the hologram would have to be protected by a
glass UV barrier, to prevent premature degradation.
Maybe.


b) How long the pv cells will last without additional cooling, under
the extra light.

Whole point is they get extra useful wavelengths without the radiant
heat ? Presumably the prognosis is a whole lot better than other
reflector concentrators.

c) Why they are using cool-looking "high tech" holograms instead of
inexpensive fresnel lenses, which can be cast in glass.

Because it wouldn't take out the non-useful wavelengths ?

Dichroics might be another viable option ?


Cheers, J/.
 
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John Beardmore

Jan 1, 1970
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In message said:
Kent Hoult wrote:

I think those numbers are way off.

A hologram of this kind probably wouldn't need to be more than 5 or 10
mm thick.

It probably doesn't need to be more than a few atoms thick.

A fresnel lens need not be anywhere near a foot thick, nor even an inch
thick.

It's not the size of the optical element that matters, so much as the
dimensions of the optical path.

Would a lens of any kind do the same job as the hologram in this
case ?


Cheers, J/.
 
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John Beardmore

Jan 1, 1970
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In message said:
Uh, no, that's not true of a hologram. You need at least a couple
wavelengths of light in thickness, in order to generate the
interference patterns upon which holographic effects are based.

OK. I though it was enough to reflect light or not, but I may have
missed the point.

A fresnel lens *IS* a lens.
Agreed.


It's based on the idea that it's really only the SURFACE of the lens
that does the refraction job required. So you eliminate much of the
optical medium (glass, plastic) between the refracting surfaces, while
maintaining their angles to incoming light. And of course, you adjust
those angles to account for the reduced transmissive distance within
the lens.

The bottom line is -- yes, you could use lenses -- but they would be
thick and expensive.
....

Conventional lenses would not be tunable in this manner.

The bottom line is then, that you couldn't use lenses because they
wouldn't do the job.


Cheers, J/.
 
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John Beardmore

Jan 1, 1970
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Kent Hoult said:
I was referring to the thickness of the entire concentrator assembly,
not just the individual components.

The photos of the holgram panel looks to be a few inches thick.

Here is a typical fresnel lens type concentrator:

But it's still not doing the same job is it ? It's not separating the
appropriate wavelengths to run the cells cooler.


Cheers, J/.
 
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