Running Unix Program in Windows??

[Jim Thompson]

I know there are shells to allow running a Windows program in Unix.

Is there like-wise a method to run a Unix-based program in Windows?

...Jim Thompson

 

[Martin Riddle]

I know there are shells to allow running a Windows program in Unix.

Is there like-wise a method to run a Unix-based program in Windows?

...Jim Thompson

I always wanted to try this....
http://www.colinux.org/

There are other options though.

Cheers

 

[flipper]

I know there are shells to allow running a Windows program in Unix.

Is there like-wise a method to run a Unix-based program in Windows?

...Jim Thompson

Besides setting up a virtual machine, which isn't really what you
asked for, here are a few approaches.

Unix

http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/

Linux

http://cygwin.com/

http://www.colinux.org/

 

[JeffM]

alt.binaries.schematics.electronic removed from To line

flipper wrote: (X-No-Archive)
Besides setting up a virtual machine,
which isn't really what you asked for, here are a few approaches.

Unix
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/

Linux
http://cygwin.com/
http://www.colinux.org/

Note that all three approaches require you to have the source code
so you can recompile it for the new platform.

Don't you just hate X-No-Archive?
....especially when the dude is using a nym anyway.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

I always wanted to try this....
http://www.colinux.org/

There are other options though.

Cheers

Often the best way is to install Cygwin and recompile the *nix app. I'm
a huge Cygwin fan.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs.

 

[Jim Thompson]

Often the best way is to install Cygwin and recompile the *nix app. I'm
a huge Cygwin fan.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs.

Cadence Virtuoso ?

...Jim Thompson

 

[Robert]

I know there are shells to allow running a Windows program in Unix.

Is there like-wise a method to run a Unix-based program in Windows?

...Jim Thompson

Possible. As people have mentioned. But can you afford the performance hit
for a CAD Program of going through additional layers like that?

A separate Linux box would be pretty cheap nowadays.

Robert H.

 

[Helmut Sennewald]

I know there are shells to allow running a Windows program in Unix.

Is there like-wise a method to run a Unix-based program in Windows?

...Jim Thompson

Hello Jim,

I have read you want run Virtuoso. In this case you have only one chance.
Run it with their recommended version of Redhat Linux. Either install it
parallel to WIN on your PC or on another PC.

Best regards,
Helmut

 

[The Real Andy]

I know there are shells to allow running a Windows program in Unix.

Is there like-wise a method to run a Unix-based program in Windows?

...Jim Thompson

Do like the rest of us smart ones, run a linux box and a windows box.
Dont try to cross the boundaries else you will just waste lots of
time, but i guess you are retired so this might be ok.

Anyhow, windows sucks, so does linux and MacOs is even worse so you
are fucked in every direction.

 

[Jim Thompson]

Hello Jim,

I have read you want run Virtuoso. In this case you have only one chance.
Run it with their recommended version of Redhat Linux. Either install it
parallel to WIN on your PC or on another PC.

Best regards,
Helmut

That's what I'm concluding too. I'm currently running 3 PC's plus my
laptop off of one KVM... so what's one more?

I have clients clamoring for Cadence documentation. I'm actually
running Virtuoso via a VPN to a client's site right now. It's
half-fast ;-) Just enough delay to be a pain.

...Jim Thompson

 

[Jim Thompson]

Do like the rest of us smart ones, run a linux box and a windows box.
Dont try to cross the boundaries else you will just waste lots of
time, but i guess you are retired so this might be ok.

Yep. I'm so retired I'm working 60 hour weeks again ;-)

Anyhow, windows sucks, so does linux and MacOs is even worse so you
are fucked in every direction.

:-(

...Jim Thompson

 

[Guy Macon]

VMWare Workstation. Works great.

 

[Joel Kolstad]

Anyhow, windows sucks, so does linux and MacOs is even worse so you
are fucked in every direction.

Andy, if you let us know where you've been putting in 20-hour days programming
we'll take up a fund to send you the best pizza in your town.

 

[The Real Andy]

Andy, if you let us know where you've been putting in 20-hour days programming
we'll take up a fund to send you the best pizza in your town.

That's the great thing about being a consultant and charging
ridiculous rates, it cost the client so much money the refuse to let
you work more than 8 hours a day, 5 days a week And when you are
done for the day you can go off to the pub and get drunk. Sigh, one
pub day a week is just not enough, i need to take up full time
drinking again.....

 

[Jeff L]

Do like the rest of us smart ones, run a linux box and a windows box.
Dont try to cross the boundaries else you will just waste lots of
time, but i guess you are retired so this might be ok.

Anyhow, windows sucks, so does linux and MacOs is even worse so you
are fucked in every direction.

Windows is getting much worse - take a look at vista's nastiness and revenue
generators, WGA, DRM, crappy bloated code, incompatibilities, crashes,
insane hardware requirements, obsoleted hardware, now they are preventing
valid XP licenses from being activated, etc. Office 2007 is nasty, OOXML,
............

Mac's os, well, what can I say, it just works and is very stable. Has some
DRM crap, but nothing like MS. The OS's are backwards compatible to older
machines, and generally makes them run faster.

Linux is actually not that bad, if only there was some more specialized
software for it (EDA, CAD, etc)

There is also:

- eComStation (OS/2), which looks interesting, and I keep meaning to try
that live CD image I downloaded. Would have some specialized software
availability problems
- React OS - an XP clone without the MS crap, under development
- RISCOS - requires a arm based computer, well made OS, and the computers
draw only a couple of watts, but not much software
- Solaris I think released an open source os
- some stuff like freeBSD, QNX, etc

 

[The Real Andy]

Windows is getting much worse - take a look at vista's nastiness and revenue
generators, WGA, DRM, crappy bloated code, incompatibilities, crashes,
insane hardware requirements, obsoleted hardware, now they are preventing
valid XP licenses from being activated, etc. Office 2007 is nasty, OOXML,

Get your facts right before you start crapping on.

...........

Mac's os, well, what can I say, it just works and is very stable. Has some
DRM crap, but nothing like MS. The OS's are backwards compatible to older
machines, and generally makes them run faster.

I think Mac is actually the worst of the lot

Linux is actually not that bad, if only there was some more specialized
software for it (EDA, CAD, etc)

Linux sits somewhere between Windows and Mac. I could tell you a story
about how much fucking around it took me to get Linux working just
recently but its not worth it.

There is also:

- eComStation (OS/2), which looks interesting, and I keep meaning to try
that live CD image I downloaded. Would have some specialized software
availability problems
- React OS - an XP clone without the MS crap, under development
- RISCOS - requires a arm based computer, well made OS, and the computers
draw only a couple of watts, but not much software
- Solaris I think released an open source os
- some stuff like freeBSD, QNX, etc

Tell me more when they are actually useful for anything other than
training uni students and when I can install them on my PC that i buy
new for next to nothing at the local PC shit shop.

 

[[email protected]]

Windows is getting much worse - take a look at vista's nastiness and revenue
generators, WGA, DRM, crappy bloated code, incompatibilities, crashes,
insane hardware requirements, obsoleted hardware, now they are preventing
valid XP licenses from being activated, etc. Office 2007 is nasty, OOXML,
...........

Mac's os, well, what can I say, it just works and is very stable. Has some
DRM crap, but nothing like MS. The OS's are backwards compatible to older
machines, and generally makes them run faster.

Linux is actually not that bad, if only there was some more specialized
software for it (EDA, CAD, etc)

Knoppix Linux seems better than the usual Linux offerings. Boots from
CD, no need to install on the hard drive even. Autodetects USB drives
and audio hardware. Perfect for recovering files when Windows refuses
to boot, and copying them to a USB drive. No write access to NTFS
partitions, unfortunately.

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

Fedora Linux... I never could get that to work 100%... always
something wrong with the soundcard configuration, modem, etc. And the
last Fedora DVD I downloaded wouldn't even boot... !!

 

[JeffM]

mrdarrett@ gmail.com wrote:
Knoppix Linux seems better than the usual Linux offerings[...]

No write access to NTFS partitions, unfortunately.

When was the last time you tried it?
http://www.google.com/search?q=Knoppix+NTFS-3G&num=100

 

[[email protected]]

Do like the rest of us smart ones, run a linux box and a windows box.
Dont try to cross the boundaries else you will just waste lots of
time, but i guess you are retired so this might be ok.

Anyhow, windows sucks, so does linux and MacOs is even worse so you
are fucked in every direction.

I'll second using a linux box. It is often hard enough to get linux
programs running on linux, let alone screwing around with cygwiin.

I prefer suse, which is now considered evil due to dealing with
Microsquish. Actually, opensuse.

 

[Nico Coesel]

Knoppix Linux seems better than the usual Linux offerings. Boots from
CD, no need to install on the hard drive even. Autodetects USB drives
and audio hardware. Perfect for recovering files when Windows refuses
to boot, and copying them to a USB drive. No write access to NTFS
partitions, unfortunately.

Huh? That was already supported back in 2001. Probably before Knoppix
even existed. NTFS support is still marked as experimental to keep MS
quiet

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

Fedora Linux... I never could get that to work 100%... always
something wrong with the soundcard configuration, modem, etc. And the
last Fedora DVD I downloaded wouldn't even boot... !!

My experience is that Linux doesn't work on just any PC (especially
recent PCs). You'll need to use a PC which is supported by Linux.

Still I doubt the Cadence software Jim is talking about is available
to run under Linux.