My Rational Dream PC

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a “dream PC” of mine. I didn’t
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
– e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn’t aware of the
fact that I can’t get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named “MooseFET” educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46c9bc8d89ac

Now, I’ve changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer’s electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said “compromise”.


Thanks,

Radium

 

[D from BC]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a “dream PC” of mine. I didn’t
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
– e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn’t aware of the
fact that I can’t get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named “MooseFET” educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46c9bc8d89ac

Now, I’ve changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer’s electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said “compromise”.


Thanks,

Radium

Cost: $6 billion dollars.


D from BC

 

[Green Xenon [Radium]]

Cost: $6 billion dollars.

Why?

 

[D from BC]

Why?

Ooops.. make that $200 billion...

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanocircuitry
D from BC

 

[David L. Jones]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a "dream PC" of mine. I didn't
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
- e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn't aware of the
fact that I can't get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named "MooseFET" educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46...

Now, I've changed.

No you haven't, not one bit.

You are so far out of whack, either drugs got you there, or drugs are
needed to get you back to reality.

Dave.

 

[Martin Griffith]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a “dream PC” of mine. I didn’t
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
– e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn’t aware of the
fact that I can’t get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named “MooseFET” educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46c9bc8d89ac

Now, I’ve changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer’s electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said “compromise”.


Thanks,

Radium

You left out lignum vitae slip rings


Martin

 

[John Larkin]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a “dream PC” of mine. I didn’t
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
– e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn’t aware of the
fact that I can’t get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named “MooseFET” educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46c9bc8d89ac

Now, I’ve changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer’s electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said “compromise”.


Thanks,

Radium

A dream PC is like a dream hammer. It just sits there until you need
it, it works, and the head doesn't fall off very often. If it doesn't
work like that, it's a nightmare PC.

John

 

[Brendan Gillatt]

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Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a “dream PC” of mine. I didn’t
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
– e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn’t aware of the
fact that I can’t get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named “MooseFET” educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46c9bc8d89ac


Now, I’ve changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer’s electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said “compromise”.


Thanks,

Radium

That's great. Who cares?

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Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
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[Green Xenon [Radium]]

That's great. Who cares?

Is there any PC in the market [in CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Fry's, etc.] that has characteristics closest to my requirements but is
affordable those who are not filthy-rich?

 

[MooseFET]

On Sep 18, 10:44 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
[...]

1. Lowest power

Make sure it has an off switch and use it.

2. Fastest speed

A fast processor with as much RAM as you can put on it and very fast
hard disks. A lot of the time PCs take to do things are times taken
by the disk I/O. More RAM lets the OS do more buffering.

Another thing to think about is buying more than one machine. You can
set one going on a LTSpice run and then watch youtube on the other.

3. Lightest weight

Do you mean this is a laptop? If so consider what features and
connections you can live without.

10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.

Strangly enough, this may not mean a laptop. A laptop is normally on
a desk. You can take a lot of "desk top" PCs and hide them within a
desk. This can make it take less floor space.

12. Fastest internet speed
Linux.

13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

A copy of LTSpice and "octave"

 

[MooseFET]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a "dream PC" of mine. I didn't
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
- e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn't aware of the
fact that I can't get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named "MooseFET" educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

Now, I've changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer's electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said "compromise".

Radium

A dream PC is like a dream hammer. It just sits there until you need
it, it works, and the head doesn't fall off very often. If it doesn't
work like that, it's a nightmare PC.

Harddisks don't make very good hammers. Everytime I try a contest
between a harddisk and a hammer the harddisk loses.

 

[Don Bowey]

That's great. Who cares?

Is there any PC in the market [in CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Fry's, etc.] that has characteristics closest to my requirements but is
affordable those who are not filthy-rich?

Go away.

 

[D from BC]

That's great. Who cares?

Is there any PC in the market [in CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Fry's, etc.] that has characteristics closest to my requirements but is
affordable those who are not filthy-rich?

I seem to spend around $3000CAN/US in parts to fill a new PC from the
local computer shack.
I like dualing...
....dual core, dual DDR, dual disks (raid), dual raids (2 raid arrays),
dual monitors, dual DVI video cards and soon I'm doing dual computers



D from BC

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Hi:

When I was less educated I had described a "dream PC" of mine. I didn't
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
- e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn't aware of the
fact that I can't get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.

A poster named "MooseFET" educated me about this.

Here is the stupid me in the link:

Now, I've changed.

My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer's electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:

1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]

It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said "compromise".

Radium

A dream PC is like a dream hammer. It just sits there until you need
it, it works, and the head doesn't fall off very often. If it doesn't
work like that, it's a nightmare PC.

Harddisks don't make very good hammers. Everytime I try a contest
between a harddisk and a hammer the harddisk loses.

Some fast than others. Try that with an 80 pound aluminium casting
the old 20/20 drives were made with. I had to use a cutting torch on
some of them.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

That's great. Who cares?

Is there any PC in the market [in CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Fry's, etc.] that has characteristics closest to my requirements but is
affordable those who are not filthy-rich?

I seem to spend around $3000CAN/US in parts to fill a new PC from the
local computer shack.
I like dualing...
...dual core, dual DDR, dual disks (raid), dual raids (2 raid arrays),
dual monitors, dual DVI video cards and soon I'm doing dual computers


D from BC

Sounds more like 'Dueling Computers' Do you hear a banjo? ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[John Larkin]

That's great. Who cares?

Is there any PC in the market [in CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Fry's, etc.] that has characteristics closest to my requirements but is
affordable those who are not filthy-rich?

I seem to spend around $3000CAN/US in parts to fill a new PC from the
local computer shack.
I like dualing...
...dual core, dual DDR, dual disks (raid), dual raids (2 raid arrays),
dual monitors, dual DVI video cards and soon I'm doing dual computers



D from BC

That's about what we paid for our HP boxes: dual bios, dual power
supplies, redundant fans, dual-core cpu, ecc memory, eight front-panel
hot-plug drive slots, raid controller, four drives, big tower with
nice clean layout and cabling, but all built and working.

John

 

[MooseFET]

When I was less educated I had described a "dream PC" of mine. I didn't
realize that my requirements were illogical and canceling each other out
- e.g. wanting low-power, high-speed and no ROM. I wasn't aware of the
fact that I can't get low-power, high-speed, minimal ROM and not require
a cooling system.
A poster named "MooseFET" educated me about this.
Here is the stupid me in the link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt/msg/b47b46...
Now, I've changed.
My dream PC is a desktop PC [i.e. not a laptop] and does not have or
require any fans [or other cooling equipment], noisy parts [such as the
fan], or moving parts [excluding, of course, the electrons that make up
the computer's electronic signals]. My dream PC is also a compromise
among the following:
1. Lowest power
2. Fastest speed
3. Lightest weight
4. Does not generate any perceptible heat [I can touch the insides of
this PC -- after it has been on for at least a day and still is on -- in
a room that is otherwise cold and still not feel any heat from the PC]
5. Does not generate any perceptible noise [I can place my ears very
close to this PC in a room that is otherwise completely-silent and still
not hear anything from the PC]
6. Most memory
7. Most storage space
8. Smallest physical size
9. Longest lifetime [unlike Flash RAM chips who lose their abilities to
function rather quickly due to electrons tearing their way through the
insulators]
10. Takes up the least amount of physical space in the room.
11. Greatest compatibility with most hardwares and softwares
12. Fastest internet speed
13. Anything else most would consider advantageous to a PC [e.g. virus
protection and security]
It is important to note that some of the above requirements may cancel
the extent to which the other requirements can be met. That is why I
said "compromise".
Thanks,
Radium
A dream PC is like a dream hammer. It just sits there until you need
it, it works, and the head doesn't fall off very often. If it doesn't
work like that, it's a nightmare PC.

Harddisks don't make very good hammers. Everytime I try a contest
between a harddisk and a hammer the harddisk loses.

Some fast than others. Try that with an 80 pound aluminium casting
the old 20/20 drives were made with. I had to use a cutting torch on
some of them.

Some of the old ones required the use of my splitting maul.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Some of the old ones required the use of my splitting maul.

Adds a whole new meaning to 'Data crunching'!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Brendan Gillatt wrote:

That's great. Who cares?

Is there any PC in the market [in CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City,
Fry's, etc.] that has characteristics closest to my requirements but is
affordable those who are not filthy-rich?

I seem to spend around $3000CAN/US in parts to fill a new PC from the
local computer shack.
I like dualing...
...dual core, dual DDR, dual disks (raid), dual raids (2 raid arrays),
dual monitors, dual DVI video cards and soon I'm doing dual computers



D from BC

That's about what we paid for our HP boxes: dual bios, dual power
supplies, redundant fans, dual-core cpu, ecc memory, eight front-panel
hot-plug drive slots, raid controller, four drives, big tower with
nice clean layout and cabling, but all built and working.

John

No cup holders? ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Fred Abse]

Sounds more like 'Dueling Computers' Do you hear a banjo? ;-)

Nah, but I can hear the piggy squeal ;-)