in the 80's

[amdx]

in the 80's.... we had Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, and Johnny Cash. Now we have
Obama, No Hope, and No Cash..

 

[[email protected]]

in the 80's.... we had Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, and Johnny Cash. Now we have
Obama, No Hope, and No Cash..

....but we do have change. Believe it!

 

[amdx]

--
MikeK

...but we do have change. Believe it!

I prefer to Believe the voters will make a Change in November.
Remember republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
MikeK

 

[[email protected]]

I prefer to Believe the voters will make a Change in November.
Remember republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.

Even if every Demonicrat did (vote on Wednesdays), Franken would still be in
the Senate. Who needs voters when you have ACORN?

 

[Martin Riddle]

...but we do have change. Believe it!

Yup, just rolled it up and took it to the bank.

Now if only my 401k statement will stop showing:
Contributions xxx.xx
Gains (xxxxx.xx)

I'd be doing a lot better.

Cheers

 

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MikeK

in the 80's.... we had Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, and Johnny Cash. Now we
have
Obama, No Hope, and No Cash..

...but we do have change. Believe it!

I prefer to Believe the voters will make a Change in November.
Remember republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
MikeK

I wish it were a good bet. I'm betting the looters out-number us
suckees, and Congress will remain in the hands of the scumbag
socialists.

1. The looters do not outnumber us. The question is "will we vote?"
1a. Americans, collectively, don't like this, know in their hearts
something is terribly wrong.
1b. Even looters don't want to see the government go broke.
Especially the looters. That kills their benefits.
2. The House is possible, the Senate probably not.

I'd rate the House as probable. The Senate a long-shot, just because of the
numbers. It would take 100% of the toss-ups and maybes. Not likely.

3. Nevada could do us all a favor and can Reid; Arizona needs to
retire McCain.

Reid, maybe. McCain, not a chance.

But, once elected can a new House fix this despite Obama? Or merely
fight him to a standstill? Probably the latter. But that's a start.
The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is ... stop
digging.

They can defund everything. The question is can they then withstand Obama
"shutting down the government" and blaming the Republicans for it, as Clinton
did.

No need. Producers can always win if they have the will. They have
the ultimate recourse--they can stop producing.

That is already happening. It *has* to, but it's not going to be pretty for
anyone.

 

[Rich the Cynic]

...but we do have change. Believe it!

Yeah! I've got $0.53 in my bank account! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Even if every Demonicrat did (vote on Wednesdays), Franken would still be
in the Senate. Who needs voters when you have ACORN?

I wish the Libertarians could get some press. The right-wing are
anti-choice theocrats who are addicted to war.

They're all happy with guns, but want to legislate or dictate away the
rights that the guns are there to protect!

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Yup, just rolled it up and took it to the bank.

Now if only my 401k statement will stop showing:
Contributions xxx.xx
Gains (xxxxx.xx)

I'd be doing a lot better.

When the 401K first came out, I looked into it, and decided, "What kind of
numbskull considers 'playing the stock market' to be an 'investment fund?'"

Glad I didn't fall for that scam! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[[email protected]]

The party in power wants to dismantle the Constitution, the crucial,
key, fruit of the American Revolution, the very wellspring of our
freedom, our Magna Carta, the People's guarantee. And they're doing
it, massively.

They're seizing people's property. They're seizing people's assets.
Last Thursday they came within 3 or 4 votes of effectively outlawing
speech by their political opponents.

Elena Kagan thinks Congress can order you to eat three fruits and
vegetables a day, constitutionally, under the Commerce clause.

Commerce clause? That's so last century.

http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman...ernment-can-do-most-anything-in-this-country/

 

[[email protected]]

It's only recently that I understood--by careful study--how good (and
timeless) a control system the Constitution was, the checks it keeps
on the natures and ambitions of men, and how far we've drifted from
it.

We were taught such things in school. That was before "Heather has Two
Mommys" took the place of Civics.

Hardly anyone gets that, as demonstrated by that congressman. Sworn
to uphold the Constitution, he has no idea what it even says. And he
doesn't care, he doesn't understand its importance, that the feedbacks
and safeties must not be ignored or the thing goes unstable and
rails. I can't say I was much different, but it wasn't my job.

They don't care. They want the world to work they way they want. NOW! They
don't care if they have to destroy everything to get their way. The don't
understand that they won't, only more suffering.

I think it was miso@sushi who pointed out the National Security
Letters phenomenon as a Bush outrage. Okay, that's queasy. But Mr.
Hope and Change isn't backing down, he's expanding it.

Here's that link again about the White House wanting to give the FBI
unfettered access to your web surfing:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/28/AR2010072806141.html

What about the Top-10 Hit List?

"The statute as written causes confusion and the potential for
unnecessary litigation," Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said.
"This clarification will not allow the government to obtain or collect
new categories of information, but it seeks to clarify what Congress
intended when the statute was amended in 1993."

i.e., Congress wrote a law in 1993 intending to track terrorists' web-
surfing? Puh-leeze. That's simply the Big Lie. So many other things
today are too.

All this talk about enemies and the need to intercept plots is
Orwellian, of a different era, and a big mistake. Such paranoid
drivel is what we once heard from despots behind the Iron Curtain--
always an emergency, always some outside threat to The People, always
justifying some new intrusion against them, or excusing some failure
of hope or change. I was there.

Bush threw the door open, and Mr. Obama's pouring through.

This is big stuff--we're not just being spent to China, we're losing
our republic.

If the 'R's don't take the House in November, it's gone. If they do, it
prolongs the agony some.

 

[[email protected]]

Well, for instance, I only just appreciated the value and importance
of the Electoral College, and only because Massachusetts' end-run got
me thinking.

We discussed all that, too.

With it, the States keep each other in check. Without it, Boston
dictates to North Dakota, and Boston wins every time.

Yep. It's the United *States*. The 17th Amendment did huge damage to the
Constitution and the country.

I saw this personally in Chile. Santiago (the capital city) receives
all the taxes, yet rules a 3,000-mile country. Santiago takes care of
itself--they get all the money. It's great, with roads, transport,
skyscrapers--all the modern conveniences. Farther away? Nope. The
farther you go, the worse it gets.




This can be fixed.

I don't think it can, after another two years like this one.

Example: Missouri voters overwhelmingly reject Obamacare--
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_c847dc7c-564c-5c70-8d90-dfd25ae6de56.html

We did this. More to come...stay tuned.

Is it meaningful, though. Or is Holder going to sue MO next?

 

[[email protected]]

Meaningful? It's a tidal wave.

Obama and his minions haven't been impressed so far.

 

[[email protected]]

The propagandist's job is to make you think that. They're definitely
impressed. Terrified.

If that were true Obamacare wouldn't have passed. They would have been
thinking of the unemployment lines long before now.

I read last week that 75%(!) of Americans believe their government is
governing against their interest. That is the stuff of revolutions.

I'm not buying it.

Several states have had enough--at some point people will just start
ignoring Mr. O's laws. Missouri's at that point, Arizona's
essentially there, Texas, and several other states are close too.
Civil disobedience--MO's just approved it, with more to follow.

If we keep passing absurd laws that no one's read, no one's going to
follow them either.

What are people going to do when their employer drops, or is forced to drop
their insurance? What are they going to do when the taxes double? Pay it.

 

[JosephKK]

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MikeK

I prefer to Believe the voters will make a Change in November.
Remember republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
MikeK

I wish it were a good bet. I'm betting the looters out-number us
suckees, and Congress will remain in the hands of the scumbag
socialists.

So arm yourselves now, with enough ammo to last a few years. If we're
lucky we can kill 'em all off one-by-one guerrilla-style O

...Jim Thompson

 

[JosephKK]

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MikeK

I prefer to Believe the voters will make a Change in November.
Remember republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday.
MikeK

I wish it were a good bet. I'm betting the looters out-number us
suckees, and Congress will remain in the hands of the scumbag
socialists.

So arm yourselves now, with enough ammo to last a few years. If we're
lucky we can kill 'em all off one-by-one guerrilla-style O

...Jim Thompson

Get some very thin piano wire, very useful for snares and garrotes.

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

On Aug 2, 10:14 pm, "[email protected]"

Bush threw the door open, and Mr. Obama's pouring through.

This is big stuff--we're not just being spent to China, we're losing
our republic.

I fear we're just going to have to learn the hard way, a la the (ex-)
Soviet Union; but people will probably never learn - they'll just continue
to do the same stupid crap and blame somebody else for their actions.

Sigh.

So, my plan is to stock up on water and canned foods, watch my jewels,
and try to enjoy the ride when the whole card house comes crashing down.

Oh, BTW:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci....r:Dreaded+author:Libertarian#be8c28331bcef78e
(mind the wrap)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[[email protected]]

Well, they're suicide Democrats. To re-find the article below I
Yahoo'd "poll americans government against". The list of hits was
amazing--2/3rds of America is against almost all the stuff Obama's
doing.

Yet 2/3rds of America isn't against OBAMA. If what you are saying were true,
there wouldn't be a safe seat in Congress, this November.

I didn't say we have a revolution, I said this is the stuff of
revolutions...

The stuff not of revolutions is being well fed, so far.

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._s_government_has_the_consent_of_the_governed

Friday, July 16, 2010

The notion that governments derive their only just authority from the
consent of the governed is a foundational principle of the American
experiment.

Wonderful in theory. In reality, people are too easily bought with their own
money.

However, a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that
just 23% of voters nationwide believe the federal government today has
the consent of the governed. Sixty-two percent (62%) say it does not,
and 15% are not sure.

That doesn't seem to be translating into much real change (and I don't mean
the hopey kind), however.

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

So now you're broke. Good thinking.

Not because I didn't play the stock market. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

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Not because I didn't play the stock market. ;-)

You *are* still broke. If had saved (in a 401K, or whatever) you wouldn't be.