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Nomen Nescio

Jan 1, 1970
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On the news last week, there was a story about in-car
video footage being used in a road rage court case.
Supposedly the victim's car had 4 cameras (front, rear,
left, right I presume). I wonder if it's like the shitty
CCTV in my uncle's shop - it does a mosaic of the 4 cameras
so you only get 288 lines resolution each picture (same as
VHS tape). I doubt you could identify an armed robber off it.
It should be HD only for this sort of thing.
 
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Clocky

Jan 1, 1970
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Nomen said:
On the news last week, there was a story about in-car
video footage being used in a road rage court case.
Supposedly the victim's car had 4 cameras (front, rear,
left, right I presume). I wonder if it's like the shitty
CCTV in my uncle's shop - it does a mosaic of the 4 cameras
so you only get 288 lines resolution each picture (same as
VHS tape). I doubt you could identify an armed robber off it.
It should be HD only for this sort of thing.

The video shown on TV was enough to identify the registration number and the
actions, that was enough.

Turns out the perp was an unlicensed driver with a toddler in the back, I
hope they throw the book at the idiot.
 
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terryc

Jan 1, 1970
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On the news last week, there was a story about in-car video footage
being used in a road rage court case. Supposedly the victim's car had 4
cameras (front, rear, left, right I presume). I wonder if it's like the
shitty CCTV in my uncle's shop - it does a mosaic of the 4 cameras so
you only get 288 lines resolution each picture (same as VHS tape). I
doubt you could identify an armed robber off it. It should be HD only
for this sort of thing.

No idea, but I'd love to know the tech details.

It has been feasible for about a decade to just have a computer running a
capture card storing pictures/video to a hard disk. Limitations were the
quality of the cameras that you could afford and the size of the hard
disk that you could afford, which implied the limit to the amount of
recording(history).
 
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atec77

Jan 1, 1970
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No idea, but I'd love to know the tech details.

It has been feasible for about a decade to just have a computer running a
capture card storing pictures/video to a hard disk. Limitations were the
quality of the cameras that you could afford and the size of the hard
disk that you could afford, which implied the limit to the amount of
recording(history).
These days a dvr at 500 or 600 tvl per-cam and 20 to 25 fps is under 400$
it's getting very affordable
 
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The Raven

Jan 1, 1970
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Nomen Nescio said:
On the news last week, there was a story about in-car
video footage being used in a road rage court case.
Supposedly the victim's car had 4 cameras (front, rear,
left, right I presume). I wonder if it's like the shitty
CCTV in my uncle's shop - it does a mosaic of the 4 cameras
so you only get 288 lines resolution each picture (same as
VHS tape). I doubt you could identify an armed robber off it.
It should be HD only for this sort of thing.

One has to wonder about what sort of person thinks it's necessary to fit 4
cameras to their vehicle.

Some possible 'justifications' include:
1. Someone who's been a repeated target of abuse for their crappy driving,
but hasn't figured out that THEY are the root cause of the incidents.
2. Someone tin-foil hat wearing wacko looking to make money via vexacious
legal claims.

Based on the limited info above, sounds like both a viable.
 
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atec77

Jan 1, 1970
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One has to wonder about what sort of person thinks it's necessary to fit 4
cameras to their vehicle.

Some possible 'justifications' include:
1. Someone who's been a repeated target of abuse for their crappy driving,
but hasn't figured out that THEY are the root cause of the incidents.
2. Someone tin-foil hat wearing wacko looking to make money via vexacious
legal claims.

Based on the limited info above, sounds like both a viable.
I have two cctv cams in my daily
but then I got them for little and reversing is easier
 
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John McKenzie

Jan 1, 1970
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Clocky said:
The video shown on TV was enough to identify the registration number and the
actions, that was enough.

Turns out the perp was an unlicensed driver with a toddler in the back, I
hope they throw the book at the idiot.

I am not familiar with the case, but I have to be honest, based on what
is posted here, the main focus shouldn't be punishing the unlicenced
driver/road rager, but (and I'm serious about this) getting that child
out of such(imo) danger. Any kind of a lunatic who would engage in shit
like this at all, let alone with a young kid in the car, if that isn't
moulding a future sociopath (at abolute best) and indicative of likely
child abuse that goes on behind closed doors (i.e. they take out their
frustrations on other motorists, imagine what they'd do to their own
kids with no witnesses). God help the little one.


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terryc

Jan 1, 1970
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"Nomen Nescio" <[email protected]> wrote in message
One has to wonder about what sort of person thinks it's necessary to fit
4 cameras to their vehicle.

Only if you don't drive with your eyes open. Look and learn, there are
plenty of examples where you can be held responsible for some other
person's reckless driving, e.g. the lane changer who suddenly shifts in
front with very little gap and then jams on the brakes as they see a red
light ahead.
 
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Toby

Jan 1, 1970
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On the news last week, there was a story about in-car
video footage being used in a road rage court case.
Supposedly the victim's car had 4 cameras (front, rear,
left, right I presume). I wonder if it's like the shitty
CCTV in my uncle's shop - it does a mosaic of the 4 cameras
so you only get 288 lines resolution each picture (same as
VHS tape). I doubt you could identify an armed robber off it.
It should be HD only for this sort of thing.

Ok - my Tin Hat protects me from RoadRagers.
In fact I've not even seriously considering outfitting any car with an
array of cameras.

Now I'm getting to think that the driver of the POS Video equipped machine
has to be well paranoid. WELL PARANOID, I mean.

It's even possible that the Video car was so equipped because its driver
was extremely deserving of a touch-up. And knew it damm well, too.
 
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Clocky

Jan 1, 1970
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John said:
I am not familiar with the case, but I have to be honest, based on
what is posted here, the main focus shouldn't be punishing the
unlicenced driver/road rager, but (and I'm serious about this)
getting that child out of such(imo) danger. Any kind of a lunatic who
would engage in shit like this at all, let alone with a young kid in
the car, if that isn't moulding a future sociopath (at abolute best)
and indicative of likely child abuse that goes on behind closed doors
(i.e. they take out their frustrations on other motorists, imagine
what they'd do to their own kids with no witnesses). God help the
little one.

I agree. He rammed the other car FFS, what a moron.

Anyway, this being WA where justice is a laughable farce at best, he will
probably get a 6 month suspension and a $200 fine.
 
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Noddy

Jan 1, 1970
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Ok - my Tin Hat protects me from RoadRagers.
In fact I've not even seriously considering outfitting any car with an
array of cameras.

Lucky, as it'd be frightfully hypocritcal of you to do so in light of your
view regarding the government doing the same thing to monitor people getting
about town :)
Now I'm getting to think that the driver of the POS Video equipped machine
has to be well paranoid. WELL PARANOID, I mean.

There's a bit of that going around.
It's even possible that the Video car was so equipped because its driver
was extremely deserving of a touch-up. And knew it damm well, too.

Maybe.
 
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Albm&ctd

Jan 1, 1970
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There's not enough space for that on the whole Internet, Athol.
There's probably an incident every ten minutes of driving. Most would have to be
culled leaving only amusing and/or dangerous stuff.
Here's one that left me amused a while ago. Guy is rushing to the roundabout on
my right, thought best stop (even though I could get in first) and let him go
through to avoid contact, weeks in hospital with discomfort etc. Anyway after
the roundabout he takes the next right without an indicator. What's amusing
about that you ask? It was single occupant vehicle, a driving instructor, with
the word affordable (IIRC) in the name.

Al
 
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Mr.T

Jan 1, 1970
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Golden One said:
The person had them fitted after they were held to blame for an
accident that was not their fault.

Wish I had them fitted when I was fined for driving carefully through a
faulty red arrow after I waited 5 minutes for it to change (at 2AM and
nothing else on the road except an unmarked cop car apparently :-(
I would have at least enjoyed playing the footage in real time in court
until THEY go tired of waiting! But whether such evidence would even be
accepted is another matter of course.

MrT.
 
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Jasen Betts

Jan 1, 1970
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Wish I had them fitted when I was fined for driving carefully through a
faulty red arrow after I waited 5 minutes for it to change (at 2AM and
nothing else on the road except an unmarked cop car apparently :-(
I would have at least enjoyed playing the footage in real time in court
until THEY go tired of waiting! But whether such evidence would even be
accepted is another matter of course.

If you stop in the wrong spot the metal detector loop might not 'see'
your car. sometimes reversing a bit triggers the lights.


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Albm&ctd

Jan 1, 1970
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If you stop in the wrong spot the metal detector loop might not 'see'
your car. sometimes reversing a bit triggers the lights.


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Wonder if it was Toowoomba Qld. Going back about 15 years ago, the lights never
change late at night if you are on a motorcycle... sitting there and there is no
other traffic for *****ng kilometers. It would be one giant arseh*le of a cop
that would book you for going through them.

Al
 
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Barry

Jan 1, 1970
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These days a dvr at 500 or 600 tvl per-cam and 20 to 25 fps is under 400$
it's getting very affordable

What would 400$ be when written in the proper format with the $ before
the number?
 
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Barry

Jan 1, 1970
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Wonder if it was Toowoomba Qld. Going back about 15 years ago, the lights never
change late at night if you are on a motorcycle... sitting there and there is no
other traffic for *****ng kilometers. It would be one giant arseh*le of a cop
that would book you for going through them.

There are no kilometers in Australia.
 
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Albm&ctd

Jan 1, 1970
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There are no kilometers in Australia.
OK kilometres then
We have meter maids here, really pretty too so there.. neeerrrr.

Al
 
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Albm&ctd

Jan 1, 1970
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Indeed, but my point was that there is a rational explaination for
doing so.
I suppose if you instigated a road rage incident it would look like the victim
was attacked by the sweet transvestite from Rocky Horror.

Al
 
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Mr.T

Jan 1, 1970
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Jasen Betts said:
If you stop in the wrong spot the metal detector loop might not 'see'
your car. sometimes reversing a bit triggers the lights.

Of course, and sometimes it doesn't!

MrT.
 
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