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[The God of Odd Statements]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 11:06:27 -0500, John Fields did most oddly ask:

BTW, what if there were no rhetorical questions?

There'd be no rhetoric?

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"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
L. Mencken

"Consider that language a moment. 'Purposefully and materially
supported hostilities against the United States' is in the eye of the
beholder, and this administration has proven itself to be astonishingly
impatient with criticism of any kind. The broad powers given to Bush by
this legislation allow him to capture, indefinitely detain, and refuse a
hearing to any American citizen who speaks out against Iraq or any other
part of the so-called 'War on Terror.'

"If you write a letter to the editor attacking Bush, you could be
deemed as purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the
United States. If you organize or join a public demonstration against
Iraq, or against the administration, the same designation could befall
you. One dark-comedy aspect of the legislation is that senators or House
members who publicly disagree with Bush, criticize him, or organize
investigations into his dealings could be placed under the same
designation. In effect, Congress just gave Bush the power to lock them
up." -- William Rivers Pitt

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Not me!

Over the last year or so I had a couple of really scary episodes
where my blood pressure went up to something like 220/150 and I
wound up in the hospital with some serious drugs needed to bring it
down to "normal". Since then we've gotten it down to around 120/60
(a near miracle, ISTM) where it sits most of the time, even when
I'm ragging on trash like Homer, but thanks for asking.

And yet mine runs 110/70 no matter what you post. You should give it up.

 

[John Fields]

Piss off low grade morons like you.


Right. Life is so pleasant there now - why the Iraqis keep throwing flowers
at the US troops. Not a single Iraqi was even harmed by the invasion and
occupation - so much better now.

And then there's Kuwait, saved by US troops while their own sons played in
the fleshpots of Europe.

"The one million citizens of Kuwait, where government financial assets have
topped 166 billion dollars, are to receive a grant of 200 dinars (690
dollars) each, the government has announced.
The two million foreign workers in the oil-rich emirate were not included.

The OPEC member posted a surplus in each of the past seven fiscal years,
totalling more than 50 billion dollars. Kuwait is also headed for record
revenues this year.

The government offered a similar grant in October 2004 and raised salaries
of citizens by 170 dollars monthly last year. MPs in the outspoken
parliament have been pressing for a new hike.

The Gulf Arab state provides a cradle-to-grave welfare system to its
citizens who receive most public services at heavily subsidized prices and
pay no income tax.

Some 92 percent of Kuwait's 300,000-strong workforce are employed in
government jobs, with high wages and minimal work pressure."

Hmmm, and what has happened to the servicemen injured saving Kuwait? The
ones who are in wheel chairs or blind living in run down trailers? Any money
for them?

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Nope. That wasn't part of the deal.
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I still can't see how a doped up idiot and C student like little George
could even get into Harvard let alone earn an MBA. Something is wrong there.

---
Nope, it's just that _you_ can't see how it happened. I'm sure
there's a lot of stuff you can't quite figure out. Like how to tie
your shoelaces, maybe?
---

None of them has a fucking clue.

---
I doubt that. I think it's more like _you_ don't have a fucking
clue. Everything you think you know something about you get from
the media. Do you get regular communiques from the White House
apprising you of what's going on and asking for your opinion? No.

Do you have any idea of what's going on besides what you read in the
paper and see on TV? No. Fucking clueless and you don't even know
it, sadder still.
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No, that's your 'honor for life'.

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Oh, how clever and devastating...
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Interesting how you always resort to ad hominem arguments instead of posting facts.

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That wasn't an ad hominem argument, dumbass, it was an ad hominem
attack.

Learn what the "big words" mean before you use them and you'll save
yourself a world of grief, y'know...

 

[The God of Odd Statements]

Gee, why am _I_ not surprised? Of course, who cares what happens to a
bunch of worthless, lowlife grunts who were lucky enough to visit the
Middle East on the taxpayer's dime? They were just lower-income types
anyway, right? Not useful people, like the rich. Not anyone who
_matters_. Well, aside from the rich people who volunteered, but they
were silly. Leave the actual fighting to the little people, the cannon
fodder -- it's what they're for.

Right?

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________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! mhm 29x21; TM#5
Demon Lord of Confusion
COOSN-029-06-71069
Supreme High Overlord of rec.radio.*
Chuck Lysaght: Tarred & Feathered!
"It would be offly hard for any of you to abuse me on usenet. Really. I
have the advantage. I could easily turn alt.usenet.kooks into a cesspool
of encoded posts. Bringing the noise ratio up so high as to make the
group worthless. Anybody who can code could do this, why nobody has
bothered before now is beyond me. The ultimate spamming engine..
'BAWAHAHA'" -- Dustbin "Outer Filth" K00k's delusions of grandeur
reached new heights, in Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
L. Mencken

"Consider that language a moment. 'Purposefully and materially
supported hostilities against the United States' is in the eye of the
beholder, and this administration has proven itself to be astonishingly
impatient with criticism of any kind. The broad powers given to Bush by
this legislation allow him to capture, indefinitely detain, and refuse a
hearing to any American citizen who speaks out against Iraq or any other
part of the so-called 'War on Terror.'

"If you write a letter to the editor attacking Bush, you could be
deemed as purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the
United States. If you organize or join a public demonstration against
Iraq, or against the administration, the same designation could befall
you. One dark-comedy aspect of the legislation is that senators or House
members who publicly disagree with Bush, criticize him, or organize
investigations into his dealings could be placed under the same
designation. In effect, Congress just gave Bush the power to lock them
up." -- William Rivers Pitt

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Right. Use the Yanks when you must and ignore them the rest of the time.

I'm not the only one who wonders how someone with a degree in history
doesn't have a clue about history and with a degree in business
administration doesn't have a clue how to manage anything.

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I doubt that. I think it's more like _you_ don't have a fucking
clue. Everything you think you know something about you get from
the media. Do you get regular communiques from the White House
apprising you of what's going on and asking for your opinion? No.

Do you have any idea of what's going on besides what you read in the
paper and see on TV? No. Fucking clueless and you don't even know
it, sadder still.

And yet I am SO much better informed than you.

---
Oh, how clever and devastating...
---


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That wasn't an ad hominem argument, dumbass, it was an ad hominem
attack.

Learn what the "big words" mean before you use them and you'll save
yourself a world of grief, y'know...

ad hominem argument, ad hominem attack. Tomato - tomato.

Seems it is you who constantly display ignorance. You should cut down on the
stupid pills.

 

[John Fields]

And yet mine runs 110/70 no matter what you post. You should give it up.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I'm not posting to try to raise your blood pressure, I just like
bashing the bashers.

No, you like trolling. I like catching trolls, dragging them into the boat,
whacking them on the head with a 2 by 4, and tossing them back for shark
bait.

Thanks!

 

[Guest]

No, you like trolling. I like catching trolls, dragging them into the
boat, whacking them on the head with a 2 by 4, and tossing them back
for shark bait.

Do you plan to do that soon?

 

[John Fields]

Gee, why am _I_ not surprised? Of course, who cares what happens to a
bunch of worthless, lowlife grunts who were lucky enough to visit the
Middle East on the taxpayer's dime?

---
Their families and friends do, and their country does.
---

They were just lower-income types
anyway, right? Not useful people, like the rich. Not anyone who
_matters_. Well, aside from the rich people who volunteered, but they
were silly. Leave the actual fighting to the little people, the cannon
fodder -- it's what they're for.

Right?

---
Kinda. When you join the service as enlisted, (just for example,
let's say the Army Infantry) the presumption is that if you have to
go to war you're going to be a grunt, you're going to be put in
harm's way, and you're the one who's going to have to do the dirty
work. There's no mystery about that, and it's just the way it
works.

Certainly there's no presumption that a grateful foreign nation
which you helped will repay you in monetary terms, since that's not
part of the deal.

Simple.

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

No it doesn't. That wasn't part of the deal, as you said yourself and now
appear to contradict. The sooner people take some personal responsibility
instead of displacing and enshrining it in some kind of veneer of
patriotism, the sooner people will stop dying stupidly for nothing.

 

[John Fields]

Right. Use the Yanks when you must and ignore them the rest of the time.

---
So now you'd have the countries we've helped making payments to
individual servicemen/women for the services they performed? That
would be OK, except that we don't run a mercenary Army.
---

I'm not the only one who wonders how someone with a degree in history
doesn't have a clue about history and with a degree in business
administration doesn't have a clue how to manage anything.


And yet I am SO much better informed than you.

---
Filling your head with shit doesn't mean you're better informed, it
just means you're thinking what somebody else wants you to.
---

ad hominem argument, ad hominem attack. Tomato - tomato.

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Hmmm... seems you need to look up the little words, too.
---

Seems it is you who constantly display ignorance. You should cut down on the
stupid pills.

---
Speaking of ignorance, that 'display' is a plural verb. It should
be the singular, 'displays' in order to agree numerically with the
singular noun, 'you'.

But, as far as the stupid pills goes, you're right.

I should cut down, but every time I post something for you I have to
take one so I can dull my wits and write at a level you can
comprehend.

 

[John Fields]

No, you like trolling. I like catching trolls, dragging them into the boat,
whacking them on the head with a 2 by 4, and tossing them back for shark
bait.

 

[The God of Odd Statements]

No, their country doesn't -- not meaningfully. There may be lots of
verbiage to that effect, but it's all hot air. I don't mean individual
citizens (who aren't in a position to do anything significant), I mean
your government and military.

---
Kinda. When you join the service as enlisted, (just for example, let's
say the Army Infantry) the presumption is that if you have to go to war
you're going to be a grunt, you're going to be put in harm's way, and
you're the one who's going to have to do the dirty work. There's no
mystery about that, and it's just the way it works.

And then get dumped on the sidewalk, with a "So long, sucker!"

Certainly there's no presumption that a grateful foreign nation which you
helped will repay you in monetary terms, since that's not part of the
deal.

Considering how your government and military tend to prefer that someone
else look after vets with Gulf War Syndrome, I don't see why not. I
support the individual troops, you see, not merely the idea of them, as
the wingnuts do.

Simple-

minded, yes.

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________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! mhm 29x21; TM#5
Demon Lord of Confusion
COOSN-029-06-71069
Supreme High Overlord of rec.radio.*
Chuck Lysaght: Tarred & Feathered!
"It would be offly hard for any of you to abuse me on usenet. Really. I
have the advantage. I could easily turn alt.usenet.kooks into a cesspool
of encoded posts. Bringing the noise ratio up so high as to make the
group worthless. Anybody who can code could do this, why nobody has
bothered before now is beyond me. The ultimate spamming engine..
'BAWAHAHA'" -- Dustbin "Outer Filth" K00k's delusions of grandeur
reached new heights, in Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
L. Mencken

"Consider that language a moment. 'Purposefully and materially
supported hostilities against the United States' is in the eye of the
beholder, and this administration has proven itself to be astonishingly
impatient with criticism of any kind. The broad powers given to Bush by
this legislation allow him to capture, indefinitely detain, and refuse a
hearing to any American citizen who speaks out against Iraq or any other
part of the so-called 'War on Terror.'

"If you write a letter to the editor attacking Bush, you could be
deemed as purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the
United States. If you organize or join a public demonstration against
Iraq, or against the administration, the same designation could befall
you. One dark-comedy aspect of the legislation is that senators or House
members who publicly disagree with Bush, criticize him, or organize
investigations into his dealings could be placed under the same
designation. In effect, Congress just gave Bush the power to lock them
up." -- William Rivers Pitt

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

So now you'd have the countries we've helped making payments to
individual servicemen/women for the services they performed? That
would be OK, except that we don't run a mercenary Army.

I don't think the point was about services performed, but about
compensation for loss. If one soldier or marine gets luckier than another,
they're more likely to do well for themselves later as it's a hell of a
thing to put on the CV for those who value such things.

Is there an insurance against loss of limbs or other faculties in war? As
far as I know there isn't, everyone from the government right down to the
smallest private insurance companies expressly exclude such losses on the
grounds that war is hell, basically.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

So now you'd have the countries we've helped making payments to
individual servicemen/women for the services they performed? That
would be OK, except that we don't run a mercenary Army.

Explain the "campaign contributions" from the oil companies then.

Filling your head with shit doesn't mean you're better informed, it
just means you're thinking what somebody else wants you to.

I know you are but what am I?

I should cut down, but every time I post something for you I have to
take one so I can dull my wits and write at a level you can
comprehend.

Odd. I have to have a four year old translate for me because you write so
far below my level.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

That may be what you _like_, but right now _you're_ the one with
the hook in his mouth.

Not on this planet. What color is the sky on your world?

 

[John Fields]

No it doesn't. That wasn't part of the deal, as you said yourself and now
appear to contradict. The sooner people take some personal responsibility
instead of displacing and enshrining it in some kind of veneer of
patriotism, the sooner people will stop dying stupidly for nothing.

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That's not what I said.

The question was: "Who cares what happens to a bunch of worthless,
lowlife grunts who were lucky enough to visit the Middle East on the
taxpayer's dime?"

I think it's pretty clear that their families and friends will care
about what happens to them, don't you?

As far as the country is concerned, (or let's say the government,
instead) the care there will be financial. A soldier who comes back
unhurt won't have to use the VA's medical facilities or cause the
government to spend anything else (with some exceptions) once the
soldier goes back to civilian life.

I agree with the taking personal responsibility part, BTW.
Unfortunately, not everyone is capable of taking responsibility for
themselves, and I suppose that's where cannon fodder comes from.

 

[The God of Odd Statements]

No, you(r leaders) run an Imperial Army/Navy/Air Force/etc., though they
have yet to admit it, after more than a century of doing so.

<snip spelling/typo lames>

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________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! mhm 29x21; TM#5
Demon Lord of Confusion
COOSN-029-06-71069
Supreme High Overlord of rec.radio.*
Chuck Lysaght: Tarred & Feathered!
"It would be offly hard for any of you to abuse me on usenet. Really. I
have the advantage. I could easily turn alt.usenet.kooks into a cesspool
of encoded posts. Bringing the noise ratio up so high as to make the
group worthless. Anybody who can code could do this, why nobody has
bothered before now is beyond me. The ultimate spamming engine..
'BAWAHAHA'" -- Dustbin "Outer Filth" K00k's delusions of grandeur
reached new heights, in Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
L. Mencken

"Consider that language a moment. 'Purposefully and materially
supported hostilities against the United States' is in the eye of the
beholder, and this administration has proven itself to be astonishingly
impatient with criticism of any kind. The broad powers given to Bush by
this legislation allow him to capture, indefinitely detain, and refuse a
hearing to any American citizen who speaks out against Iraq or any other
part of the so-called 'War on Terror.'

"If you write a letter to the editor attacking Bush, you could be
deemed as purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the
United States. If you organize or join a public demonstration against
Iraq, or against the administration, the same designation could befall
you. One dark-comedy aspect of the legislation is that senators or House
members who publicly disagree with Bush, criticize him, or organize
investigations into his dealings could be placed under the same
designation. In effect, Congress just gave Bush the power to lock them
up." -- William Rivers Pitt

 

[Richard The Dreaded Libertarian]

It's not a question of any of that, it's a question of not forcing
the many to conform to the needs of the unfortunate few.

True, but doesn't that go hand-in-hand with not forcing the few to
conform to the limitations of the many?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[John Fields]

Explain the "campaign contributions" from the oil companies then.



I know you are but what am I?


Odd. I have to have a four year old translate for me because you write so
far below my level.