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Cheap Rigol Oscilloscope from Ebay

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Trevor Wilson

Jan 1, 1970
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David L. Jones said:
Done.
http://www.alternatezone.com/images/rigol/

Using the 1KHz probe cal oscillator.
As you can see, it's possible to have split screen, overlayed screen, or
standalone screen.
X and Y cursors possible with manual and tracking modes.
Last shot is using Blackman, others were using Hamming.
It's not possible to use the LONG memory mode with FFT switched on,
regardless of timebase.
The frequency display is the excellent hardware frequency counter at work,
i.e. works regardless of timebase or vertical scale.

**Thanks a bunch David. Looks like the bee's knees to me. I did a job in the
city last week. The Rigol would have been the perfect tool for the job. I
used my Tek, but the Rigol would have made it faster and easier to fault
find. Easier to carry too.
 
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Swanny

Jan 1, 1970
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David said:
I can't go back to those old washed-out Tek TDS mono screens any more!
Was forced to use one (TDS1012) last night for some bebugging at work, and
it was pretty miserable looking (and the small memory was really annoying).
The sceen on this new 1000E series Rigol is much better and brighter than
the one used on the older 5000 series.
More resolution would be really nice of course, but all these low end
instruments settle on 320x240, with the exception being the super-cheap Owon
units - too good to be true? - almost certainly.


That's what I figured as well.

My old ~12yo Tek TDS210 sold a few months back for practically the same
price as this new Rigol. Silly when you think about it.
And then someone paid $1000 for the 5000 series Rigol I had, albeit that was
100MHz and almost as-new.


Let us all know how you like it.

Dave.

I haven't tried the PC software yet with it, however I really like the
USB host port on the front for storing captures and setups.

And the pass/fail testing modes are going to be really handy.
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Swanny said:
I haven't tried the PC software yet with it, however I really like the
USB host port on the front for storing captures and setups.

Yes, pretty essential feature these days.
I don't however like the rather convoluted sequence you have to go through
to save the waveform. And annoyingly it defaults to Waveform mode every time
you re-power, so doesn't stay set on Bitmap mode. Other scopes with a
dedicated Print button are more convenient in this respect.
And the pass/fail testing modes are going to be really handy.

The isolated pass/fail BNC output is a nice feature. Someone was thinking.

Dave.
 
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KR

Jan 1, 1970
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I can't go back to those old washed-out Tek TDS mono screens any more!
Was forced to use one (TDS1012) last night for some bebugging at work, and
it was pretty miserable looking (and the small memory was really annoying).
The sceen on this new 1000E series Rigol is much better and brighter than
the one used on the older 5000 series.
More resolution would be really nice of course, but all these low end
instruments settle on 320x240, with the exception being the super-cheap Owon
units - too good to be true? - almost certainly.


That's what I figured as well.

My old ~12yo Tek TDS210 sold a few months back for practically the same
price as this new Rigol. Silly when you think about it.
And then someone paid $1000 for the 5000 series Rigol I had, albeit that was
100MHz and almost as-new.


Let us all know how you like it.

Dave.

Well, It arrived early this morning, I have played with it now for
about 3 hours to get used to "driving" it and see what it can do, and
I have to fully agree with the comments posted so far :
Its a brilliant unit, and outstanding for the price.

The display is fantastic, the colour makes a big difference in quickly
identifying what is happening and what goes where. The "Math" traces
coming up in blue makes it really easy to identify for example,
compared to having 3 white traces on a mono unit.
(black on white background with TEK)
It a vast improvement over mono screen units I have used in the past.

Note, I haven't used a colour display Oscilloscope before, so I cant
compare the display quality to a TEK or HP unit.

Am now in the process of studying the PDF manual for it, there is a
LOT more that it can do that isn't immediately apparent.

Build quality seems solid and quality, knobs and controls have a good
"feel" when using, and a lot of thought has gone into the product.

I think the Chinese (or some Chinese companies at least) are going
through the same stage that the Japanese once went through, they
originally made (and were known for) cheap but poor quality products,
and with time they improved their quality, learnt more as they
progressed and then by the 70's they were well known for making high
quality products, still at pretty good prices.

Unless you specifically need a 4 channel or higher than 50MHZ unit, or
with specialised features, then I don't think you can go past this
Rigol for the price -
Especially with the trackable international EMS shipping included !!.

PS:

I just opened the rest of the mail that arrived today, and found
Farnell Select 46.
Note on page 3, their cheapest TEK with similar features and colour
screen is TDS2002B at $2200 AU (60Mhz 2 channel). This might be
available cheaper from sources other than Farnell, but I'm certain
it's still going to be a huge difference in price over the Rigol.
 
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JERD

Jan 1, 1970
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I can't go back to those old washed-out Tek TDS mono screens any more!
Was forced to use one (TDS1012) last night for some bebugging at work, and
it was pretty miserable looking (and the small memory was really
annoying).
The sceen on this new 1000E series Rigol is much better and brighter than
the one used on the older 5000 series.
More resolution would be really nice of course, but all these low end
instruments settle on 320x240, with the exception being the super-cheap
Owon
units - too good to be true? - almost certainly.


That's what I figured as well.

My old ~12yo Tek TDS210 sold a few months back for practically the same
price as this new Rigol. Silly when you think about it.
And then someone paid $1000 for the 5000 series Rigol I had, albeit that
was
100MHz and almost as-new.


Let us all know how you like it.

Dave.



I am very tempted!

Has anyone given any thought to after sales service?

With my luck, I will probably need it!!

JERD
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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JERD said:
I am very tempted!

Has anyone given any thought to after sales service?

With my luck, I will probably need it!!

I guess that's the chance you take. For under $700 I'm prepared to take my
chances.
It comes with a Chinese warranty card, but it's not obvious where to send it
or if it's applicable in Australia.
I have not heard any reports at all with any Rigols failing, and certainly
none of the units I've had at work have failed over the years. So no news is
good news right?
The fan in this new Rigol, while probably not needed, would surely help with
product longevity too.
I suspect Agilent wouldn't have rebadged them if the manufacturing and
component quality wasn't up the scratch, but all models are different.

Dave.
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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KR said:
Build quality seems solid and quality, knobs and controls have a good
"feel" when using, and a lot of thought has gone into the product.

Rigol have had quite a few years now to refine their products. Even the
earliest models were still very good quality wise, but usability has
improved somewhat.
Unless you specifically need a 4 channel or higher than 50MHZ unit, or
with specialised features, then I don't think you can go past this
Rigol for the price -

Not even close!
I just opened the rest of the mail that arrived today, and found
Farnell Select 46.
Note on page 3, their cheapest TEK with similar features and colour
screen is TDS2002B at $2200 AU (60Mhz 2 channel). This might be
available cheaper from sources other than Farnell, but I'm certain
it's still going to be a huge difference in price over the Rigol.

Yep, that's basically the cheapest you can get a colour Tek in Australia I
believe. The cheaper 1000 series do not have colour screens. And for your
$2200 you only get a pultry 2.5KB memory.
For that same price you can get a 4 channel Rigol, or 2+16 channel mixed
signal for under $1800, and that's from the Australian supplier Emona!

Dave.
 
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KR

Jan 1, 1970
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Rigol have had quite a few years now to refine their products. Even the
earliest models were still very good quality wise, but usability has
improved somewhat.


Not even close!


Yep, that's basically the cheapest you can get a colour Tek in Australia I
believe. The cheaper 1000 series do not have colour screens. And for your
$2200 you only get a pultry 2.5KB memory.
For that same price you can get a 4 channel Rigol, or 2+16 channel mixed
signal for under $1800, and that's from the Australian supplier Emona!

Dave.



Tried it today in a "real world" problem with a logic board.
Brilliant, no real problems or annoyances I have found and gets even
better as I learn to "drive" it :)

Probably a good way to spend the "stimulus" money ;)
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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KR said:
Tried it today in a "real world" problem with a logic board.
Brilliant, no real problems or annoyances I have found and gets even
better as I learn to "drive" it :)
Probably a good way to spend the "stimulus" money ;)

I don't get any Rudd money :-(

Dave.
 
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Mr.T

Jan 1, 1970
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KR said:
Probably a good way to spend the "stimulus" money ;)

Yeah, buying a Chinese CRO on ebay will really help our economy!
What a shame the government couldn't think of a better way to spend the
money, like all the infrastructre projects they say they can't afford. And
on hospitals and schools. I guess supporting Chinese workers is far more
important.

MrT.
 
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KR

Jan 1, 1970
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Yeah, buying a Chinese CRO on ebay will really help our economy!
dont know if i will get it yet even :(

I admit that it won't directly help our economy, but it helps my work
become more efficient and profitable (admittedly in a very small way
overall), and that probably indirectly eventually helps the economy in
a small way.

If tools such as this (that are normally well out of the reach of
students, hobbyists, and some small businesses) can be bought
affordably it will make electronic hobbies / study / work etc more
affordable, then that is a benefit for the country. Its probably of
less harm to the country than buying a plasma or pissing up the money
(well, maybe not, beer is locally brewed ;).

I don't think we have made CROS here since the BWD days ?

What a shame the government couldn't think of a better way to spend the
money, like all the infrastructre projects they say they can't afford. And
on hospitals and schools. I guess supporting Chinese workers is far more
important.

MrT.

The schools need things other than money thrown at them, the education
standards are a joke, PC crap such as lack of discipline is another
major problem. Fancy modern air conditioned classrooms wont help these
problems.

Pouring money into "renovating" school buildings without fixing the
festering sore inside them - ie: what is being taught, how its being
taught, and controlling the class, so those who want to learn, can -
is as ridiculous as pouring money into an almost bankrupt B&W TV
factory, to renovate the factory premises, to "lead it back to profit"
rather than dealing with the fact that its making an inferior or
obsolete product or service and fixing that.


As for Australian products and services,
I have to fork out over $2000 for dental work in the next month. Does
that make up for my "sins" ? ;)
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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David L. Jones said:
I saw the new Rigol DS1052E is going for $679 on Ebay Australia, *including
postage* from China.
2CH, 50MHz, colour, 1GS/s, 1M sample memory, USB host.
Couldn't resist at that price and had to get one, and it just turned up on
my desk this afternoon (tracking provided). Ordered Mar 4th, and there
were a few days delay because he didn't have them in stock yet.

First impressions - very nice indeed, and performance seems much improved
from a previous Rigol I've used.
External build quality appears to be excellent, feels nice'n'reliable.
Was brand new in the orignal box with paperwork and 2 switchable probes.
No manual, just a quick start quite in Chinese.
Waranty certificate included but not sure if that's applicable in Oz.

So if you are in the market for such a scope, it seems like very good
value indeed at the moment.

Dave.

It's now ever cheaper:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Rigol-DS-105...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318

$640 auction price, $662 Buy-it-Now
That *includes* tracking postage.

Insanely low price.

Dave.
 
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Mr.T

Jan 1, 1970
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KR said:
I admit that it won't directly help our economy, but it helps my work
become more efficient and profitable (admittedly in a very small way
overall), and that probably indirectly eventually helps the economy in
a small way.

And you already get a tax deduction for business related expenses.
I don't think we have made CROS here since the BWD days ?

Not likely to in the forseeable future either.
The schools need things other than money thrown at them, the education
standards are a joke, PC crap such as lack of discipline is another
major problem. Fancy modern air conditioned classrooms wont help these
problems.

I agree, however better teachers and more higher education places for
Australians, still costs money.
As for Australian products and services,
I have to fork out over $2000 for dental work in the next month. Does
that make up for my "sins" ? ;)

Probably not if the Dentist uses it on an overseas trip.:-(

MrT.
 
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Geoff Steer

Jan 1, 1970
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It's now ever cheaper:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Rigol-DS-1052E-50-MHz-2-Channel-Digital- Oscilloscope_W0QQitemZ350185540997QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Oscilloscopes?
hash=item350185540997&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%
3A1%7C240%3A1318

$640 auction price, $662 Buy-it-Now
That *includes* tracking postage.

Insanely low price.

Dave.

And getting crazier!
Just bought one for $US445 ($A570). Still with free shipping.
Bit of a communication issue in getting him to send me an invoice on
paypal but all sorted out.
Now for a cheap logic analyser...

Regards
Geoff
 
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Geoff Steer

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but this one is even cheaper at US$364,
which is about AU$465. Plus shipping of US$55.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RIGOL-DS1052E-Digital-Oscilloscope-50MHz-DS-1052E- DSO_W0QQitemZ320355416009QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Oscilloscopes?
hash=item4a96abb7c9&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

dmm

That always happens!
I'm sure that if I wait a few more weeks, someone will be selling it even
cheaper.
Still that eBay seller mib_instruments looks to have some other
interesting toys...
 
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Geoff Steer

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but this one is even cheaper at US$364,
which is about AU$465. Plus shipping of US$55.
http://cgi.ebay.com/RIGOL-DS1052E-Digital-Oscilloscope-50MHz-DS-1052E- DSO_W0QQitemZ320355416009QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Oscilloscopes?
hash=item4a96abb7c9&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

dmm

What are Atten instruments like for quality? The above mentioned eBay
seller has 100Mhz Atten oscilloscopes for less that the Rigol 1052E.

Regards
Geoff
 
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David L. Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Geoff said:
What are Atten instruments like for quality? The above mentioned eBay
seller has 100Mhz Atten oscilloscopes for less that the Rigol 1052E.

Only 500MS/s and doesn't say what memory depth.
Also, it's not listed as current model according to the ATTEN website.

Dave.
 
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dmm

Jan 1, 1970
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That always happens!
I'm sure that if I wait a few more weeks, someone will be selling it even
cheaper.
Still that eBay seller mib_instruments looks to have some other
interesting toys...

mib_instruments are advertising that Rigol variant for several prices on ebay.

dmm.
 
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