The New Agilent

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  1. JW

    JW Guest

    JW, Jan 8, 2014
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    amdx Guest

    On 1/8/2014 11:17 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
    > On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:05:07 -0800, John Larkin
    > <> Gave us:
    >
    >> OK, explain why that's obvious.

    >
    > Because every time one turns around, you have something foul to say
    > about some firm or group.


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    amdx, Jan 8, 2014
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  3. JW

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    On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:43:36 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

    >
    >
    > Dreadful name; sounds Taiwanese. Nobody is going to want to buy a Keysight
    >
    > signal generator.
    >
    >
    >
    > Interesting that HP spun off the profitable stuff, and Agilent ditto.


    A side-effect of the era of enlightenment when complete trash like Fiorina were appointed CEO, and you should see all the other corporate boards that see yew enn tee has sat on since- utterly useless trash who couldn't competently run a fast food restaurant!

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    , Jan 8, 2014
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  4. JW

    Phil Hobbs Guest

    On 1/8/2014 11:43 AM, John Larkin wrote:
    > On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:34:27 -0500, JW <> wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>
    >> Blech.

    >
    > Dreadful name; sounds Taiwanese. Nobody is going to want to buy a Keysight
    > signal generator.
    >
    > Interesting that HP spun off the profitable stuff, and Agilent ditto.
    >
    >


    Keysight? Seriously? Bombsight is more like it.

    I wonder how much they paid somebody to come up with that. Of course
    everybody in the business was calling Agilent "Flatulent" for the first
    few months.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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    Phil Hobbs, Jan 8, 2014
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  5. JW

    miso Guest

    John Larkin wrote:

    > On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:56:43 -0800, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:43:37 -0800, John Larkin
    >><> Gave us:
    >>
    >>>I spend a little time on Usenet, but I more than make up for it by not
    >>>watching television.

    >>
    >> "Ducky" would have a field day with you. Both before and after.

    >
    > Ducky?
    >
    >


    NCIS I'm guessing, but it doesn't make much sense.

    Here's the deal. If the product is good, you don't change the name. They
    should have left the name HP for the test and instrumentation products and
    called the computer/printer line something else. However, in the eye of the
    public, they never saw a HP test instrument, so the company didn't want to
    lose THAT branding.

    OK, so they formed Agilent. The people that needed test equipment grumbled
    and got over it. Hell, they still call it HP even with Agilent on the
    faceplate.

    So what becomes of Agilent now that they are rebranding the test and
    instrumentation line again?

    I think the worst branding was Avago. Sounds like fuckin' avocado, and I
    hate avocados.

    People earn big bucks thinking up these names. You would think they could do
    a better job. I could at least stand Agilent. You think of something agile.
    Not a negative thing. Anything with "key" in it is bad. Keys have a negative
    connotation:
    1) Where are my keys
    2) I lost the key
    3) I locked myself out
    4) I can't believe how long this freakin' product key is to unlock this
    software
    Yada yada yada.
     
    miso, Jan 8, 2014
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  6. JW

    Fred Abse Guest

    On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 15:19:16 -0500, Phil Hobbs wrote:

    > Of course
    > everybody in the business was calling Agilent "Flatulent" for the first
    > few months.


    I never thought of calling them that, having spotted the anagram ;-)

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    Fred Abse, Jan 8, 2014
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  7. John Larkin <> wrote:
    > On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:34:27 -0500, JW <> wrote:
    >
    >>http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>
    >>Blech.

    >
    > Dreadful name; sounds Taiwanese. Nobody is going to want to buy a Keysight
    > signal generator.


    it really does.

    > Interesting that HP spun off the profitable stuff, and Agilent ditto.


    It's a move straight from the failed company playbook.

    Every division Motorola spun off years ago is doing great. I'm not sure if
    the the legal name Motorola even makes or does anything at all anymore.

    Same story for Kodak.

    Nobody learns anything.
     
    Cydrome Leader, Jan 8, 2014
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  8. Martin Riddle, Jan 9, 2014
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  9. On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 15:08:00 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
    <> wrote:

    >
    >>I was working for Agilent shortly after it split from HP. Never heard it
    >>called "Flatulent". None of us missed the anagram "Genital" though.
    >>
    >>Allan

    >
    >Sexy test gear!


    Judging by their repair & recalibration pricing, it's somewhat
    appropriate.


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    Spehro Pefhany, Jan 9, 2014
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  10. On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:17:56 -0500, the renowned Martin Riddle
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:34:27 -0500, JW <> wrote:
    >
    >>http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>
    >>Blech.

    >
    >Maybe hindsight would have worked?
    >
    >Cheers


    Probably an oversight.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
    --
    "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
    Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
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    Spehro Pefhany, Jan 9, 2014
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  11. JW

    T Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    >
    > http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >
    > Blech.


    Who the hell thought up that name? It's horrid. They should just talk to
    HP and get back together again.
     
    T, Jan 9, 2014
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  12. JW

    Guest

    On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 08:43:36 -0800, John Larkin
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:34:27 -0500, JW <> wrote:
    >
    >>http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>
    >>Blech.

    >
    >Dreadful name; sounds Taiwanese. Nobody is going to want to buy a Keysight
    >signal generator.
    >
    >Interesting that HP spun off the profitable stuff, and Agilent ditto.


    People will buy the good stuff, no matter what name is on it. The
    junk needs the marketing cache of the name brand.
     
    , Jan 9, 2014
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  13. JW

    Guest

    On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:23:56 -0800, John Larkin
    <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 23:01:57 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>John Larkin <> wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:34:27 -0500, JW <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>>>
    >>>>Blech.
    >>>
    >>> Dreadful name; sounds Taiwanese. Nobody is going to want to buy a Keysight
    >>> signal generator.

    >>
    >>it really does.
    >>
    >>> Interesting that HP spun off the profitable stuff, and Agilent ditto.

    >>
    >>It's a move straight from the failed company playbook.
    >>
    >>Every division Motorola spun off years ago is doing great. I'm not sure if
    >>the the legal name Motorola even makes or does anything at all anymore.
    >>
    >>Same story for Kodak.
    >>
    >>Nobody learns anything.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Moto: "We're in the cell phone business."
    >
    >HP: "We're in the PC business."
    >
    >Kodak: "We're in the film business."
    >
    >Intel?


    "We're in the x86 business. Whatever your question, x86 is the answer
    (at x86 margins)."

    >Microsoft?


    "We're in the Windows business. Whatever your question, Windows is the
    answer (with M$ quality)."

    Does either have another business? Really?
     
    , Jan 9, 2014
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  14. JW

    Guest

    On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 11:02:17 -0800, John Larkin
    <> wrote:

    >On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:21:43 -0500, wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:23:56 -0800, John Larkin
    >><> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 23:01:57 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
    >>><> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>John Larkin <> wrote:
    >>>>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:34:27 -0500, JW <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Blech.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Dreadful name; sounds Taiwanese. Nobody is going to want to buy a Keysight
    >>>>> signal generator.
    >>>>
    >>>>it really does.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Interesting that HP spun off the profitable stuff, and Agilent ditto.
    >>>>
    >>>>It's a move straight from the failed company playbook.
    >>>>
    >>>>Every division Motorola spun off years ago is doing great. I'm not sure if
    >>>>the the legal name Motorola even makes or does anything at all anymore.
    >>>>
    >>>>Same story for Kodak.
    >>>>
    >>>>Nobody learns anything.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>Moto: "We're in the cell phone business."
    >>>
    >>>HP: "We're in the PC business."
    >>>
    >>>Kodak: "We're in the film business."
    >>>
    >>>Intel?

    >>
    >>"We're in the x86 business. Whatever your question, x86 is the answer
    >>(at x86 margins)."
    >>
    >>>Microsoft?

    >>
    >>"We're in the Windows business. Whatever your question, Windows is the
    >>answer (with M$ quality)."
    >>
    >>Does either have another business? Really?

    >
    >XBOX is doing OK. And you can buy a Microsoft mouse. I think the big
    >seller is Office.


    Office is a big seller but not as big as Win. They're really one and
    the same, though (desktop).

    >Intel keeps trying other stuff (iapx32, bubble memory, Xscale, etc)
    >but it never works.


    Yep, or is killed because it doesn't have "x86 margins".

    >High volume things tend to become cheap or free commodities. That's
    >lethal to a business that bets on keeping up the prices for that
    >stuff. Why buy Windows Server when Linux is better and free? What's a
    >cell phone worth now? $20 at Safeway?


    Windows == desktop

    >I wonder if Apple can keep charging premium prices in the long term.
    >The audience for hipness is fickle.


    After recently buying an iPod, I can't understand how people put up
    with the crap. I though M$ bloat was bad.
     
    , Jan 10, 2014
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  15. JW

    Guest

    On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:09:54 -0600, Jon Elson <>
    wrote:

    >John Larkin wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 02:13:29 -0500, T <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <>,
    >>>says...
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.keysight.com/en/
    >>>>
    >>>> Blech.
    >>>
    >>>Who the hell thought up that name? It's horrid. They should just talk to
    >>>HP and get back together again.

    >>
    >> Yeah "Rigol" sounds much better.
    >>
    >>

    >Well, that one is taken. But, maybe Rigor might work. as in
    >Rigor (mortis).


    ....or Chinglish for Rigol. ;-)
     
    , Jan 10, 2014
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  16. JW

    Guest

    On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:54:33 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:44:44 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>The filing attorney's name is Andrew Roppel of Holland & Hart LLP.
    >><http://www.hollandhart.com/aaroppel/?ajax=no>
    >>
    >>Keysight details:
    >><http://www.trademarkia.com/keysight-technologies-86131209.html>

    >
    >Hmmm... Looks like the trademark ownership hasn't been passed to HP
    >quite yet. It's currently owned by Corundum Holdings.
    ><http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:g9a2hi.2.1>
    >
    >Perhaps HP is waiting for public reaction before paying for the name?


    Hmm, after HP, how about IQ?
     
    , Jan 10, 2014
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  17. JW

    Jasen Betts Guest

    On 2014-01-09, John Larkin <> wrote:
    > On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:21:43 -0500, wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>>Microsoft?

    >>
    >>"We're in the Windows business. Whatever your question, Windows is the
    >>answer (with M$ quality)."
    >>
    >>Does either have another business? Really?

    >
    > XBOX is doing OK. And you can buy a Microsoft mouse. I think the big
    > seller is Office.


    xbox OS is windows
    microsoft mouse originally was only suited to windows (only 2 buttons)
    office? there's lots of windows installs without it. all those X boxes
    and devices that run embedded WinCE



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    Jasen Betts, Jan 10, 2014
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