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Liam O'Rourke

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Hi, i'm learning about checking the voltages across components during fault finding. I know how to calculate the total resistance and current of a circuit and thus use that with ohms law to calculate the voltages but I'm now wondering what if the circuit was AC. In particular im looking at audio mixers. In the attached example schematic, the inputs are AC and therefore the voltages across each component will always be changing. Am i able to apply a low DC voltage instead of AC to the XLR for the purposes of testing components? Or would this somehow damage the circuit?
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Harald Kapp

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This answer is valif for the circuit shown only. A different circuit may and will behave in completely different ways:
A DC voltage on the XLR connector is unlikely to damage components as long as the voltage is within the rated limits of the XLR input. The headphone output is decoupled by capacitors, so no DC will show on the headphones (DC on speakers/headphones may cause damage).

Am i able to apply a low DC voltage instead of AC to the XLR for the purposes of testing components?
When testing components the circuit shall not be powered by a power supply. Otherwise you risk damage to the meter or to components. Also, testing components while built into a circuit is always tricky as the other components and the PCB traces will tend to change the readings of your meter. For example try measuring a resistor built into a circuit - you will more often than not see a resistance that is not what the resistor is supposed to be due to other resistances in parallel. You can use that kind of measurement to due a quick first check (open or short circuit), but you'll have to de-solder at least one pin (of a 2 pin component) to get accurate measurements.

I suppose you don't have an oscilloscope which makes it rather easy to follow AC signals.
In that case I recommend for that kind of circuit (audio) you use a signal injector and tracer (Google). The injector generates a low voltage AC signal in the audible range which can be applied to different parts of the circuit. The tracer is used to pick up the injected signal from other parts of the circuit to check whether the signal path is working correctly. It takes some time to become familiar with the usage of these tools. Once you know how to handle them it allows quick tracing of signal paths without having to look at each individual component. Leave the latter for the final examination once you have pinpointed the source of the problem.
 

Liam O'Rourke

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Okay yeah I've seen a few videos on signal tracers. The one in particular i've seen was of a guy using it to test a bass guitar amp. I wondered if this might be good way to go whilst testing a mixer so you have just confirmed that for me. Thanks.
 

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Hi, i'm learning about checking the voltages across components during fault finding. I know how to calculate the total resistance and current of a circuit and thus use that with ohms law to calculate the voltages but I'm now wondering what if the circuit was AC. In particular im looking at audio mixers. In the attached example schematic, the inputs are AC and therefore the voltages across each component will always be changing. Am i able to apply a low DC voltage instead of AC to the XLR for the purposes of testing components? Or would this somehow damage the circuit?
Thanks
You first determine what component is defective by how the circuit malfunctions. THEN, you can remove or
disconnect the suspected component and test it out of circuit.

Ratch
 

Liam O'Rourke

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Thank you Ratch and Harald.

Much appreciated.

The signal injection and tracer looks like the best approach here. But obviously like you say Ratch we should always start with a general "whats wrong and where" analysis first as this can often bring attention to the faulty component(s).
 

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whats wrong and where" analysis
Thta's what the onjector/tracer is meant for. It will probably not directly identify the faulty component but the general area where too take a closer look.
 
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