Replacement relays?

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  1. Xeno Xenox

    Xeno Xenox

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    I'd like to find a replacement for this relay:

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    The markings on the relay are:

    80B43249S01
    611-1217HQ
    CDE 24VDC
    MEXICO
    718

    Using a digital caliper, the outside measurements of the relay (not including the pins) are:

    W: 30.64 mm
    D: 18.90 mm
    H: 29.39 mm

    The relay has five pins on the bottom, only four of which were soldered. In the image above showing the pins, it's the upper-right pin that wasn't soldered.

    This relay and a second identical relay are from a Whirlpool oven / microwave combo unit, built around 1986. One of these relays was used to activate the fan while the microwave was running and the other was used to activate the magnetron. Both relays are now sticking (one in the "on" position and the other in the "off" position) and need to be replaced.

    Any information or resources for finding a suitable replacement part would be appreciated!
     
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    @Minder: Thanks for the links. Yes, that relay looks similar, but I can't find any specifications either for it or for the relays I want to replace. Do you (or anyone else) know of a good site for getting specs on relays, both current and out of production?
     
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    Digikey typically has a link to the data sheet. Is it absent on these pages?
     
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    @(*steve*):

    The links provided by @Minder were not Digikey links. Those links are to TEDSS, a discount component site that doesn't list any specifications or links to datasheets.

    There are no CDE relays listed on Digikey and I haven't yet found any relays on Digikey with the same pinout as the relay I'm replacing. There are thousands of relays at Digikey, but there's no way I've found to browse them by pinout or even images of the pinout. The only way to check pinout is to down each individual datasheet, which is impractical for thousands of relays.

    Based on what I've seen so far, it seems like each manufacturer has its own pinout patterns. Is there someone here more experienced with relays who knows whether that's actually the case?
     
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    I think the reason you are have a problem finding an original is that Cornell Dubilier was never big into relays, more Capacitors etc.
    Also the relay Div. was taken over by CII in 1998, so who knows what the availability is now.
    As a last resort I have occasionally modified the mounting holes and mounted one with a close footprint, just takes a little ingenuity.
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    @Minder:

    My son's scout leader found this one on eBay (although these photos are from another source):

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    I seems like a good match, in dimensions, pin-out, pin shapes and best-guess specifications, so I ordered a few.

    I'll post an update after I receive them and try them out.
     
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