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NN

Jan 1, 1970
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I bought one of these 100 dollar pressure washers (around 13amps and
1000 or so PSI output) and after a few weeks, it started to slow down
quickly and smoke and died. I borrowed my friends who had it for a
while but used it for a few car washes only and burned his out to. Is
it possible because they are using vacuum motors instead of the more
expensive continuous duty brushes motors? Other than that, the pump
and etc. are the same design.
 
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James Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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NN said:
I bought one of these 100 dollar pressure washers (around 13amps and
1000 or so PSI output) and after a few weeks, it started to slow down
quickly and smoke and died. I borrowed my friends who had it for a
while but used it for a few car washes only and burned his out to. Is
it possible because they are using vacuum motors instead of the more
expensive continuous duty brushes motors? Other than that, the pump
and etc. are the same design.
Were you running it on a long extension cord, and maybe one to small to
carry the load current? If so then maybe you were running it under-voltage
from the long cord. That will make things burn out faster.
All power tools should be run on at least a 14ga extension cord. JTT
 
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NN

Jan 1, 1970
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Jamie said:
sounds like chinese made junk.
That,s a given, yes made in china

I was trying to buy other than china lugnuts for my mag so Napa told me
they have some other than China. The point is when I got to it later,
On the box it made in USA or Taiwan or China. What the h*ll of new
scam is that? I bet is really means china
 
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George S

Jan 1, 1970
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My wife came home with a Husky 1800 psi Pressure Washer from Home Depot for
$169.00. I immediately sent her back for a 100 ft 14 gauge extension cord.
She has pressured cleaned over a thousand square feet of outdoor wood deck,
plus our driveway and my wheelchair ramp. It still runs like new.
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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James said:
Were you running it on a long extension cord, and maybe one to small to
carry the load current? If so then maybe you were running it under-voltage
from the long cord. That will make things burn out faster.
All power tools should be run on at least a 14ga extension cord. JTT

I was running it on the provided cord witch was plenty ( I do have a 12
awg romex cord in a semi flex hose but did not use it). The voltage
drop slows down these brush motors and since most get their cooling
from airflow and a fan on the shaft, they over heat. If they were to
stay cool, you could run them without harm. Sears used to make a two
speed vacuum and designed the motor to stay cool in the low speed
setting because of less airflow. Although the speed was controled by
how much of the winding would be used, not voltage.
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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NN said:
I bought one of these 100 dollar pressure washers (around 13amps and
1000 or so PSI output) and after a few weeks, it started to slow down
quickly and smoke and died. I borrowed my friends who had it for a
while but used it for a few car washes only and burned his out to. Is
it possible because they are using vacuum motors instead of the more
expensive continuous duty brushes motors? Other than that, the pump
and etc. are the same design.
sounds like chinese made junk.
 
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James Sweet

Jan 1, 1970
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NN said:
I bought one of these 100 dollar pressure washers (around 13amps and
1000 or so PSI output) and after a few weeks, it started to slow down
quickly and smoke and died. I borrowed my friends who had it for a
while but used it for a few car washes only and burned his out to. Is
it possible because they are using vacuum motors instead of the more
expensive continuous duty brushes motors? Other than that, the pump
and etc. are the same design.


THe really cheap ones use crappy series wound universal motors. Really
what do you expect for $100? The pump portion alone costs more than that
for a good one.
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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James said:
THe really cheap ones use crappy series wound universal motors. Really
what do you expect for $100? The pump portion alone costs more than that
for a good one.

I remember a colman I bought long ago the same size with a brushless
motor of the same amps laste alot longer but cost 5 x as much. I never
expected to get the wrong motor for a 100 bucks.
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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davidlaska said:
I remember a colman I bought long ago the same size with a brushless
motor of the same amps laste alot longer but cost 5 x as much. I never
expected to get the wrong motor for a 100 bucks.

A month ago I wanted to more than the cheapest at Napa and asked for a
US made or at the very least not chinese and He said OK and I bought
it. A week later I saw the box in my car and read it. But there was
a catch, it read MADE IN USA or Taiwan or China. It is some new
strange way of really saying made in China 99% of the time ( My take on
it). Did Napa lie to me? Or I should have been less trusting and read
the package.
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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I forgot to mention that the product was 4 mag wheel lugs to fit a
Datsun 210 1978 ( I thought the source would make it believable).
 
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Lee

Jan 1, 1970
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George said:
My wife came home with a Husky 1800 psi Pressure Washer from Home Depot for
$169.00. I immediately sent her back for a 100 ft 14 gauge extension cord.
She has pressured cleaned over a thousand square feet of outdoor wood deck,
plus our driveway and my wheelchair ramp. It still runs like new.

Do you rent this treasure out? Not the machine!
Regards
Lee
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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I remember a colman I bought long ago the same size with a brushless
motor of the same amps laste alot longer but cost 5 x as much. I never
expected to get the wrong motor for a 100 bucks.


$100 to you means $10 ex factory. What do you expect for $10?
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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Homer said:
$100 to you means $10 ex factory. What do you expect for $10?
Sorry, the $10 was my other example of a product, not the pressure
washer. I should have just stuck to one product.
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry, the $10 was my other example of a product, not the pressure
washer. I should have just stuck to one product.

No. I mean the ex factory (China) price of many products is about 10% of
retail. Ask yourself how good the item will be allowing for that!
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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Homer said:
No. I mean the ex factory (China) price of many products is about 10% of
retail. Ask yourself how good the item will be allowing for that!

I had a feeling of missing the point, I hate to see the day the
chinese decide to quick making us stuff, after all americans stopped
because of prices. Maybe Haiti will pick the slack.lol

I bought some chinese screwdriver and that was another new experience.
I broke all the handles when I treated them like I did with "Stanley"
brand. (They are us made and still in business)
 
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Homer J Simpson

Jan 1, 1970
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I had a feeling of missing the point, I hate to see the day the
chinese decide to quick making us stuff, after all americans stopped
because of prices. Maybe Haiti will pick the slack.lol

I bought some chinese screwdriver and that was another new experience.
I broke all the handles when I treated them like I did with "Stanley"
brand. (They are us made and still in business)

If the Chinese do what the Japanese did and refuse to allow exports of crap
the world will go through another convulsion. If they follow the work of W.
Edwards Deming they will become unstoppable.

Japan used to be the crap making center of the universe. Now we think of it
as the quality manufacturer, like Germany and Switzerland.

"By 1968, Kaoru Ishikawa, one of the fathers of TQC in Japan, had outlined
the elements of TQC management: -

quality comes first, not short-term profits
the customer comes first, not the producer
customers are the next process with no organizational barriers
decisions are based on facts and data
management is participatory and respectful of all employees
management is driven by cross-functional committees covering product
planning, product design, production planning, purchasing, manufacturing,
sales, and distribution (Ishikawa 1985)"

Too bad the US doesn't follow it's own prophet.
 
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davidlaska

Jan 1, 1970
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Homer said:
If the Chinese do what the Japanese did and refuse to allow exports of crap
the world will go through another convulsion. If they follow the work of W.
Edwards Deming they will become unstoppable.

Japan used to be the crap making center of the universe. Now we think of it
as the quality manufacturer, like Germany and Switzerland.
"By 1968, Kaoru Ishikawa, one of the fathers of TQC in Japan, had outlined
the elements of TQC management: -

quality comes first, not short-term profits
the customer comes first, not the producer
customers are the next process with no organizational barriers
decisions are based on facts and data
management is participatory and respectful of all employees
management is driven by cross-functional committees covering product
planning, product design, production planning, purchasing, manufacturing,
sales, and distribution (Ishikawa 1985)"

Too bad the US doesn't follow it's own prophet.
Japan makes good stuff, But they might be going down the road where
lower tech stuff eventually gets outsourced to a cheaper country. This
is base on the time I opened a Makita drill to clean out some junk that
got in and I noticed that the motor that used to be japanese is stamped
made in china.
I was a boy when Japan had a reputation for exporting junk. Then one
day as a teen I saw a Harley minibike made in japan.
 
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