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keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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AND, I have already stated that wireless is very useful and will become
more useful in the future. It is, however, not a panacea. I live 25km
from the centre of the largest city in Australia. Wireless speeds are
pitifully inadequate and extremely variable. The best ADSL 2+ speeds
hover around 8 Mb/s. I look forward to fibre. I won't hold my breath
waiting for Telstra (or anyone else) to improve my wireless capability.
I know that the NBN will eventually arrive (provided enough people don't
vote for that technologically illiterate moron, Abbott).

Err well I live 60Km from Australia's third largest city and I get
21Mb/s, at my old house, 500Km from the nearest capital and 50Km from
the nearest town of any size, I got 15Mb/s. ADSL+ certainly isn't
limited to 8Mb/s
 
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Petzl

Jan 1, 1970
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If they put in FTTN, it will inevitably be replaced in the not too far
different future, and will cost more in the end.

FTTN after 8 years is a rubbish exercise already my Liberal MP's are
saying Campbelltown will be completed because the contracts are
already signed

Macarthur Liberal MP Russell Matheson has given assurances that
suburbs around Campbelltown would not miss out if the Coalition wins
on September 14.
--
Petzl
http://tinyurl.com/AbbottsPorkPies
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Rupert Murdoch tries to buy U.S. presidency
http://tinyurl.com/ab3y6nl
Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition
In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
 
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Petzl

Jan 1, 1970
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Err well I live 60Km from Australia's third largest city and I get
21Mb/s, at my old house, 500Km from the nearest capital and 50Km from
the nearest town of any size, I got 15Mb/s. ADSL+ certainly isn't
limited to 8Mb/s

Your copper wire is intact and less than 300 metres from exchange
A http://www.speedtest.net/ to verify would be good
--
Petzl
http://tinyurl.com/AbbottsPorkPies
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Rupert Murdoch tries to buy U.S. presidency
http://tinyurl.com/ab3y6nl
Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition
In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
 
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F Murtz

Jan 1, 1970
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Petzl said:
Don't work for majority of their copper wire customers

Used to be able to start downloading it then after 45 minutes start
watching. Now they have disabled this and only allow direct streaming.
So it don't work for me either. The quality was aways "dumbed down"

With the NBN you are talking about 3D HD 1080H TV from anywhere on
planet.

A pommy mate a Manchester United fan can have 9 screens on his BIG
screen TV all different views of the same match. He selects the view
of the moment and his family can also use the Internet without
interfering with each others use.
Probably won't work here, although they tried their darnedest to sell me
Tbox as part of package but as the ADSL2+ is as slow as a wet week I
doubt it would work.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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If they put in FTTN,

I doubt they will myself, essentially because it will turn out
to cost more than FTTP even right now, just because its is rather
more difficult to do than a clean break with the copper system.
it will inevitably be replaced in the not too far different future,

That’s very arguable given how long the copper has lasted for.
and will cost more in the end.

Sure, and maybe even initially too.

Terminally stupid IMO.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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Petzl said:
FTTN after 8 years is a rubbish exercise already my Liberal MP's are
saying Campbelltown will be completed because the contracts are
already signed

Macarthur Liberal MP Russell Matheson has given assurances that
suburbs around Campbelltown would not miss out if the Coalition wins
on September 14.

But it remains to be seen if he's just another lying politician...
 
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keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Your copper wire is intact and less than 300 metres from exchange
A http://www.speedtest.net/ to verify would be good
Nope 1.8Km as the crow flies, probably the actual wire distance is
nearer to 3Km. Speedtest is a useless abortion, actual figures for the
link itself from the modem are:

Model: Billion BiPAC 7800N Link uptime: 11 days 4 hours 55min

Uplink speed: 1063Khz SNR: 8.6dB attenuation 4.3
Downlink speed: 21383Khz SNR: 6.1dB attenuation 13.0

If you want to know how fast your *link* is check your modem and don't
use a piece of crap like speedtest, at best it is affected by many other
factors.
 
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keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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FTTN after 8 years is a rubbish exercise already my Liberal MP's are
saying Campbelltown will be completed because the contracts are
already signed

Macarthur Liberal MP Russell Matheson has given assurances that
suburbs around Campbelltown would not miss out if the Coalition wins
on September 14.
You shouldn't live around Campbelltown if you can't take a joke.
 
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annily

Jan 1, 1970
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Nope 1.8Km as the crow flies, probably the actual wire distance is
nearer to 3Km. Speedtest is a useless abortion, actual figures for the
link itself from the modem are:

Model: Billion BiPAC 7800N Link uptime: 11 days 4 hours 55min

Uplink speed: 1063Khz SNR: 8.6dB attenuation 4.3
Downlink speed: 21383Khz SNR: 6.1dB attenuation 13.0

I'd be very surprised if the modem gives link speeds as a multiple of
kiloHertz, rather than kilobits per second.
 
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keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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www.speedtest.net is simple to use and accurate enough
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2840049758.png
Get suspicous of speed claims without the image
Be as suspicious as you want, speedtest does not give any indication of
the speed of your ADSL link, it just shows how fast you can either
extract data or pump date into a particular server. You should be able
to work out for your self why that is not a valid indication of ADSL
speed. The only way to check that is looking what your modem sees.
 
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keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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I'd be very surprised if the modem gives link speeds as a multiple of
kiloHertz, rather than kilobits per second.
picky, you know what was meant.
 
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Frank Slootweg

Jan 1, 1970
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keithr said:
Err well I live 60Km from Australia's third largest city and I get
21Mb/s, at my old house, 500Km from the nearest capital and 50Km from
the nearest town of any size, I got 15Mb/s. ADSL+ certainly isn't
limited to 8Mb/s

Exactly! I live 16,710Km from Australia's largest city and I get
120Mb/s dead easy!
 
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Petzl

Jan 1, 1970
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Be as suspicious as you want, speedtest does not give any indication of
the speed of your ADSL link, it just shows how fast you can either
extract data or pump date into a particular server. You should be able
to work out for your self why that is not a valid indication of ADSL
speed. The only way to check that is looking what your modem sees.

I have a "Windows Gadget"
http://addgadgets.com/
Tells me the upload downlod speeds confirms speedtest is not wrong
--
Petzl
http://tinyurl.com/AbbottsPorkPies
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
Rupert Murdoch tries to buy U.S. presidency
http://tinyurl.com/ab3y6nl
Federal Police investigating Murdoch http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/federal_police_join_news_probe_s0h2FfmrnzYD7dIbq8s04L
Murdoch hiring hackers to kill off opposition
In Australia Murdoch doing the same
http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM
Paul Keating's assessment of Rupert Murdoch as "a big bad bastard"
"Murdoch 'not fit' to run News Corp" < http://tinyurl.com/7njegk3 >
"Rupert Murdoch has let it be known within his organisation that Australia needs change in Canberra and his editors were simply doing his bidding"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12041
 
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Sylvia Else

Jan 1, 1970
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With the NBN fiber cable to almost ever home, at a cost that will only
be guessed at after 10+ years, I often wonder what new technologies will
arrive in the next 5, 10, 15, or 20 years that could make fiber optic to
every home plan, look like last centuries technology.

We could, of course, always wait for some hypothetical better technology
that's coming in the future. It would certainly be cheaper, because we'd
never implement anything.

Sylvia.
 
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Rod Speed

Jan 1, 1970
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Don McKenzie said:
Parramatta launches Australia’s first free 802.11ac Wi-Fi network
Users can access 30 minutes a day of free Internet with speeds up to
100Mbps

Full Story at:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/art..._australia_first_free_802_11ac_wi-fi_network/

Councillor and ParraConnect committee member, Paul Garrard, came up with
the idea to build a network that would put Parramatta on the map and offer
almost the same standard of connectivity seen in cities such as New York,
Seoul and Barcelona.

“This is an event that the New South Wales government said couldn’t happen
three years ago,” he said at the launch today.

“Three years ago they spent a million dollars doing a feasibility study
that said we couldn’t do what we’re launching today. So it’s thanks to the
capacity of the ParraConnect committee which is made up of a combination
of community and business people who have come together to work on this.”

==============================

With the NBN fiber cable to almost ever home, at a cost that will only be
guessed at after 10+ years, I often wonder what new technologies will
arrive in the next 5, 10, 15, or 20 years that could make fiber optic to
every home plan, look like last centuries technology.

I doubt anything will. After all, in the last say 100 years, all
we have really seen is copper pairs, coax, wireless and fiber.

There may be another show up, but I doubt it will be in even 20 years.
 
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Uwe Hercksen

Jan 1, 1970
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Don said:
Fibre has a maximum capacity?

Hello,

fibre has a minimum wavelength and a maximum frequency of the
transmitted light, therefore the fibre has a maximum capacity.
We are today not able to reach this maximum capacity, but it exists anyway.

Bye
 
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Damian

Jan 1, 1970
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Rod Speed said:
I doubt anything will. After all, in the last say 100 years, all
we have really seen is copper pairs, coax, wireless and fiber.

There may be another show up, but I doubt it will be in even 20 years.
Yep, 20 years sounds bit too ambitious for a newer technology to wireless
and fibre optics.
After all, wireless and fibre optics aren't that new. It's been around for
ages, we are simply starting to implement it in a wider scale.
 
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