More standby power usage (bit more accurate this time)

[Dan]

Ok so I got hold of an current/power clamp meter and the results are (the
price is amount per bill (quarterly) assuming you are charged at
14.9c/kWhr):

Black&Decker Microwave Standby: 1.58W ($0.51)
Brevelle Blender Standby: 28.08W ($9.17) (has backlight clock... power
button appears to do literally nothing but light another LED)
LG MicroWave Standby: 4.87W ($1.59)

Toshiba 32" LCD TV Standby: 7.41W ($2.42)
Sony stereo Hifi Standby: 28.85W ($9.42) (Playing Radio: 48W average)
Sony Playstation 3 Standby: 10.75W ($3.51)

Motorola Cable Modem 'Standby': 5.35W ($1.75)
Dlink Wireless Router On/Transcieving (average): 11.28W ($3.68) Power
Adaptor with nothing plugged in: 9.6W ($3.13)
LogiTech 5.1 PC Speakers On but no input: 17.4W ($5.56) 'off' via power
button: 14.88W ($4.86)
Sony Trinitron 21" CRT On: 112.8W ($36.83) Standby: 32.64W ($10.66) Off at
power button: 32.52W ($10.62)
ATX PC (Dual Core, 2GB RAM, 2 HDD's, 2x Optical Drives)

Average during bootup till at XP desktop: 194.40W
Average idleing: 168W ($54.86)
Standby: 22.22W ($7.26)
PC Off: 20.57W ($6.72)

Intersting to note how high the standby current is on the PC, not even worth
using unless your down time is going to be under 10 minutes!
Can anyone else measure theres, maybe I just have a crappy PSU thats wastes
heaps of power just to delivery the 5V standby/USB? My PSU is an ANTEC 600W
a few years old.

Nintendo DS Charger (5.2V 450mA) Nothing plugged in: 0.62W ($0.20)
Nokia 5v 890mA Phone Charger: Nothing plugged in: 0.28W ($0.09) Phone
plugged in and fully charged: 6.86W ($2.24)
HP Laptop 19V 4.7A adaptor: Nothing plugged in: 3.6W ($1.18) Laptop plugged
in and fully charged: 3.70W ($1.21)

DSE Indoor TV Antenna with Amp: On: 3.14W ($1.21) Adaptor with nothing
plugged in: 2.78W ($1.18)
Sony Playstation 2: Nothing plugged into adaptor: 6.67W ($2.18) Standby:
6.74W ($2.20)
DSE CRT Digitor 48CM TV: On: 58W average ($18.97) Standby: 9.58W ($3.13)


This is typically what would be left on standby/'off' 24/7 at my place:
Black&Decker Microwave 1.58W ($0.51)
Toshiba 32" LCD TV Standby: 7.41W ($2.42)
Sony stereo Hifi Standby: 28.85W ($9.42)
Sony Playstation 3 Standby: 10.75W ($3.51)
LogiTech 5.1 PC Speakers 'off' via power button: 14.88W ($4.86)
Sony Trinitron 21" CRT Off at power button: 32.52W ($10.62)
ATX PC Standby: 22.22W ($7.26)
Nintendo DS Charger (5.2V 450mA) Nothing plugged in: 0.62W ($0.20)
Nokia 5v 890mA Phone Charger: Phone plugged in and fully charged for 12hours
per day: 6.86W ($1.12)
HP Laptop 19V 4.7A adaptor: Nothing plugged in: 3.6W ($1.18)
DSE Indoor TV Antenna with Amp: On: 3.14W ($1.21)
Sony Playstation 2: Standby: 6.74W ($2.20)
DSE CRT Digitor 48CM TV: Standby: 9.58W ($3.13)

Total Standby/Off power: 148.75W, 1.3megawatthours per year, $47.64 per
bill.

And that doesn't include other stuff that runs 24/7 like the
router/modem/PVR PC/fridge/alarm system etc.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Dan the Pig Ignorant DOPE""

Ok so I got hold of an current/power clamp meter...

** So what the **** is that then ??

You really are one colossal, FUCKING IDIOT when it comes to taking tech
advice.

Adaptor with nothing plugged in: 9.6W ($3.13)

** Absolute BOLLOCKS.

Got any fucking what the difference is between " true " and "apparent"
power.

MORON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


........ Phil

 

[Den]

"Dan the Pig Ignorant DOPE""




** So what the **** is that then ??

You really are one colossal, FUCKING IDIOT when it comes to taking
tech advice.




** Absolute BOLLOCKS.

Got any fucking what the difference is between " true " and "apparent"
power.

MORON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


....... Phil

There's some figures here that should be accurate:

http://standby.lbl.gov/Data/SummaryChart.html

They are from the US so they'll need to be compensated for the 110V / 240V
difference.

 

[Dan]

Adaptor with nothing plugged in: 9.6W ($3.13)

** Absolute BOLLOCKS.

Got any fucking what the difference is between " true " and "apparent"
power.

ermm yes and thats why i used one that says it does power as volts * inphase
amps.... I thought the adaptor was quite hot, but yeah looking again it
can't be 9watts

so instead of being a crabby ****, what is the easiest way to measure the
power accurately then? Use a cro to display voltage and analog out of the
current clamp simulatenously to see the phase difference for power factor?

 

[-=Spudley=-]

ermm yes and thats why i used one that says it does power as volts *
inphase amps.... I thought the adaptor was quite hot, but yeah looking
again it can't be 9watts

so instead of being a crabby ****, what is the easiest way to measure the
power accurately then? Use a cro to display voltage and analog out of the
current clamp simulatenously to see the phase difference for power factor?

Plug in a toaster (peter heater) like Phil does and feel the heat.
Then the News Group agro generated by him becomes directly proportionate to
the power being consumed.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Den the dickhead "

There's some figures here that should be accurate:

http://standby.lbl.gov/Data/SummaryChart.html

** They are not specific to ANYTHING - you ass.

They are from the US so they'll need to be compensated for the 110V / 240V
difference.

** Yeah - so double all the numbers for 240 volts AC.

ROTFLMFAO !!

Just like halving all the times in US microwave cooking book !!

Wot a fucking HOOT !!!!!!!!!

ROTFL !!


..... Phil

 

[Den]

"Den the dickhead "



** They are not specific to ANYTHING - you ass.





** Yeah - so double all the numbers for 240 volts AC.

ROTFLMFAO !!

Just like halving all the times in US microwave cooking book !!

Wot a fucking HOOT !!!!!!!!!

ROTFL !!


.... Phil

The fishing is good today - easier than shootin' fish in a barrel!

 

[David L. Jones]

Ok so I got hold of an current/power clamp meter and the results are (the
price is amount per bill (quarterly) assuming you are charged at
14.9c/kWhr):

Black&Decker Microwave Standby: 1.58W ($0.51)
Brevelle Blender Standby: 28.08W ($9.17) (has backlight clock... power
button appears to do literally nothing but light another LED)
LG MicroWave Standby: 4.87W ($1.59)

Toshiba 32" LCD TV Standby: 7.41W ($2.42)
Sony stereo Hifi Standby: 28.85W ($9.42) (Playing Radio: 48W average)
Sony Playstation 3 Standby: 10.75W ($3.51)

Motorola Cable Modem 'Standby': 5.35W ($1.75)
Dlink Wireless Router On/Transcieving (average): 11.28W ($3.68) Power
Adaptor with nothing plugged in: 9.6W ($3.13)
LogiTech 5.1 PC Speakers On but no input: 17.4W ($5.56) 'off' via power
button: 14.88W ($4.86)
Sony Trinitron 21" CRT On: 112.8W ($36.83) Standby: 32.64W ($10.66) Off
at power button: 32.52W ($10.62)

Wow, that's huge. My ViewSonic 22" LCD display takes 32.8W operational and
0.63W in standby (as measured by my SC power meter kit).
I deliberately chose it for its low power consumption.

Dave.

 

[Eeyore]

What will fix the pollution problem is when the air in the world is so
bad that nobody can breath anymore,

What pollution problem ? Sure if you go to Mumbai/Bombay you'll discover
what pollution is but the air in western countries hasn't been cleaner for
centuries.

Graham

 

[Dan]

Wow, that's huge. My ViewSonic 22" LCD display takes 32.8W operational and
0.63W in standby (as measured by my SC power meter kit).
I deliberately chose it for its low power consumption.

The power readings are all wrong because the current is not reading in phase
with the voltage. So pretty much ignore them all. have heard good things
about the SC kit so i might check it out

 

[keithr]

Ok so I got hold of an current/power clamp meter and the results are (the
price is amount per bill (quarterly) assuming you are charged at
14.9c/kWhr):

Black&Decker Microwave Standby: 1.58W ($0.51)
Brevelle Blender Standby: 28.08W ($9.17) (has backlight clock... power
button appears to do literally nothing but light another LED)
LG MicroWave Standby: 4.87W ($1.59)

Toshiba 32" LCD TV Standby: 7.41W ($2.42)
Sony stereo Hifi Standby: 28.85W ($9.42) (Playing Radio: 48W average)
Sony Playstation 3 Standby: 10.75W ($3.51)

Motorola Cable Modem 'Standby': 5.35W ($1.75)
Dlink Wireless Router On/Transcieving (average): 11.28W ($3.68) Power
Adaptor with nothing plugged in: 9.6W ($3.13)
LogiTech 5.1 PC Speakers On but no input: 17.4W ($5.56) 'off' via power
button: 14.88W ($4.86)
Sony Trinitron 21" CRT On: 112.8W ($36.83) Standby: 32.64W ($10.66) Off
at power button: 32.52W ($10.62)
ATX PC (Dual Core, 2GB RAM, 2 HDD's, 2x Optical Drives)
Intersting to note how high the standby current is on the PC, not even
worth using unless your down time is going to be under 10 minutes!
Can anyone else measure theres, maybe I just have a crappy PSU thats
wastes heaps of power just to delivery the 5V standby/USB? My PSU is an
ANTEC 600W a few years old.

Nintendo DS Charger (5.2V 450mA) Nothing plugged in: 0.62W ($0.20)
Nokia 5v 890mA Phone Charger: Nothing plugged in: 0.28W ($0.09) Phone
plugged in and fully charged: 6.86W ($2.24)
HP Laptop 19V 4.7A adaptor: Nothing plugged in: 3.6W ($1.18) Laptop
plugged in and fully charged: 3.70W ($1.21)

DSE Indoor TV Antenna with Amp: On: 3.14W ($1.21) Adaptor with nothing
plugged in: 2.78W ($1.18)
Sony Playstation 2: Nothing plugged into adaptor: 6.67W ($2.18) Standby:
6.74W ($2.20)
DSE CRT Digitor 48CM TV: On: 58W average ($18.97) Standby: 9.58W
($3.13)


This is typically what would be left on standby/'off' 24/7 at my place:
Black&Decker Microwave 1.58W ($0.51)
Toshiba 32" LCD TV Standby: 7.41W ($2.42)
Sony stereo Hifi Standby: 28.85W ($9.42)
Sony Playstation 3 Standby: 10.75W ($3.51)
LogiTech 5.1 PC Speakers 'off' via power button: 14.88W ($4.86)
Sony Trinitron 21" CRT Off at power button: 32.52W ($10.62)
ATX PC Standby: 22.22W ($7.26)
Nintendo DS Charger (5.2V 450mA) Nothing plugged in: 0.62W ($0.20)
Nokia 5v 890mA Phone Charger: Phone plugged in and fully charged for
12hours per day: 6.86W ($1.12)
HP Laptop 19V 4.7A adaptor: Nothing plugged in: 3.6W ($1.18)
DSE Indoor TV Antenna with Amp: On: 3.14W ($1.21)
Sony Playstation 2: Standby: 6.74W ($2.20)
DSE CRT Digitor 48CM TV: Standby: 9.58W ($3.13)

Total Standby/Off power: 148.75W, 1.3megawatthours per year, $47.64 per
bill.

And that doesn't include other stuff that runs 24/7 like the
router/modem/PVR PC/fridge/alarm system etc.

I've just run a Jaycar meter over a few things. before starting, I connected
it to a 150 watt halogen work light, it read 150 watts. thats a very rough
and ready calibration, but better than nothing.

Item Power on
Standby
Sony 70cm CRT TV 80w
22w
Samsung 80cm HD LCD TV 163w 17w
LG 106cm HD plasma TV 330w
25w
Tivo DVR 24w
(runs 24x7)
Dell D620 laptop 60w
7w
Desk top PC (4x 7200 disks) 70-90w
14w

I have no idea how accurate the meter actually is, I will run some tests
when I can work up the enthusiasm, but the figures are pretty well what I
would expect. You can save a little money and CO2 by truning it all off,
peronally I only do so when I am going away for a couple of days or more.

Keith

 

[Phil Allison]

"keithr"

I have no idea how accurate the meter actually is, I will run some tests
when I can work up the enthusiasm,

** For low level calibration:

A 56 kohm resistor should read 1 watt.

A compact fluoro lamp should read its nominal power rating in watts. (Let
it warm up fully and must be in near new condition.)

Any main rated capacitor of a few microfarads should read zero watts.



....... Phil