Is there a single GSM cellphone under $200 that meets the bareminimum specs?

Discussion in 'Electronic Equipment' started by Eddie Powalski, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. In another thread, we established bare-minimum specs for a starter
    Android phone (for a kid) to be the following:

    BARE MINIMUM SPECS:
    0. Carrier = (your personal choice)
    1. OS = Android 4.0 or better (for app compatibility)
    3. CPU = 1GHz single core
    4. Internal memory = 1 GB (is this the same thing as ROM?)
    5. RAM = 512 MB
    6. Screen = 800x480 pixels
    7. Connectivity = WiFi, Bluetooth, & microUSB
    8. Price < $200 (your personal choice)

    My personal choices on #0 and #8 above are that I'm on a T-Mobile
    family "Value Plan"; and, I don't want data for my kid (so WiFi is
    important since she will only be using the Internet at home).

    I had bought a T-Mobile Android phone for my grade-school kid, but it
    turned out to be woefully inadequate for some of the first things we
    tried to do with it:
    a. We couldn't install Talkatone (Google Play refused to upload it)
    b. We couldn't install Temple Run 2 (Google Play wouldn't do it)
    c. We couldn't upgrade the Android OS (no upgrades are available)

    So, we definitely *know* these specs are inadequate:
    (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3875)
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile (this is, of course, your personal choice)
    1. OS = Android 2.3
    3. CPU = 823 MHz Broadcom BCM21553
    4. Internal memory = 512 MB (why don't people just call this ROM?)
    5. RAM = 512 MB
    6. Screen = 480x320 pixels
    7. Connectivity = WiFi, Bluetooth, & microUSB
    8. Price = $80 (this is, of course, your personal choice)

    I created a T-Mobile account, and looked at EVERY phone they sell
    for those on the family "Value Plan", and NONE (so far) seem to meet
    these minimum specs above!

    I originally had a price point of $100, but, I've had to double that,
    just to have 3 phones to consider.

    Here are the dozen Android phones T-Mobile will sell me as of today:
    (priced low-to-high, with only "Android" checked as a filter):
    a. Samsung Dart id $72 + ~$7 CA tax & fees ~= $80
    b. T-Mobile Prism II is $116 + ~$12 CA tax & fees = ~$130
    c. Samsung Gravity Q is $154 + ~$15 CA tax & fees ~= ~$170
    d. LG Optimus L9 is $240.00 + ~$24 CA tax & fees ~= $265
    e. Samsung Galaxy Exhibit is $236 + ~$23 CA tax & fees ~= $260
    f. T-Mobile myTouch Q is $260 +~$26 CA tax & fees ~= $285
    g. Samsung Galaxy SII is $336.00 + ~$33 CA tax & fees ~= $370
    h. Nexus 4 is $428 + ~$42 CA tax ~= $470
    i. Samsung Galaxy SIII LTE is $530 +~$53 CA tax & fees ~= $580
    j. Samsung Galaxy S4 is $580 +~$58 CA tax & fees ~= $630
    k. HTC One is $580 +~$58 CA tax & fees ~= $630
    l. Samsung Galaxy Note II is $650 +~$65 CA tax & fees ~= $715

    Unfortunately, NONE of them meet the bare minimum specs until you get
    way past the $200 price point!

    Samsung Dart (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3177)
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile
    1. OS = Android 2.2 <== fails minimum spec of 4.0
    3. CPU = 0.6 GHz <== fails minimum spec of 1GHz
    4. Internal memory = 0 (2GB card included) <== is this the same as ROM?
    5. RAM = unknown <== why does phonescoop not list any RAM?
    6. Screen = 240x320 <== fails minimum spec of 800x480 pixels
    7. WiFi (no data plan), Bluetooth, & microUSB <== meets minimum connectivity
    8. Price = ~$80 <== meets minimum spec of no greater than $200

    T-Mobile Prism II (Huawei Prism II Specs, Features (Phone Scoop))
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile (is this T-Mobile Prism the same as the Huawei?)
    1. OS = Android 4.1 <== meets minimum spec of 4.0
    3. CPU = 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S1 MSM7225 <== meets minimum spec of 1GHz
    4. Internal memory = 4 GB <== meets minimum spec of 1GB
    5. RAM = 512 MB <== meets minimum spec of 512MB
    6. Screen = 320x480 <== fails minimum spec of 800x480 pixels
    7. WiFi (no data plan), Bluetooth, & microUSB <== meets minimum connectivity
    8. Price = ~$130 <== meets minimum spec of no greater than $200

    Samsung Gravity Q (Samsung Gravity Q specs)
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile
    1. OS = Android 4.1 <== meets minimum spec of 4.0
    3. CPU = Single core, 416 MHz, STE U6805-Core <== fails minimum spec of 1GHz
    4. Internal memory = 256 MB ROM <== fails minimum spec of 1GB
    5. RAM = 128 MB <== fails minimum spec of 512MB
    6. Screen = 240x320 <== fails minimum spec of 800x480 pixels
    7. WiFi (no data plan), Bluetooth, & microUSB <== fails connectivity (no wifi)
    8. Price = ~$80 <== meets minimum spec of no more than $200

    Given I can't find a cellphone *at* T-Mobile that meets the minimum
    specs independently created, may I ask whether there is a cellphone
    *outside* of T-Mobile which *does* meet the minimum specs?

    Or must we revise the minimum specs?
     
    Eddie Powalski, Jul 3, 2013
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  2. On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:51:45 +0000, Eddie Powalski wrote:

    > In another thread, we established bare-minimum specs for a starter
    > Android phone (for a kid) ...


    Here's how the next three of the dozen phones from T-Mobile stack up
    against the bare-minimum specs we've established in a prior thread:

    Samsung Galaxy Exhibit (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3979)
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile (my choice)
    1. OS = Android 4.1.2 <== meets minimum spec of 4.0
    3. CPU = 1 GHz STE U8420 dual-core <== meets minimum spec of 1GHz
    4. Internal memory = 4 GB <== meets minimum spec of 1GB (isn't this just ROM?)
    5. RAM = 1 GB <== meets minimum spec of 512 MB
    6. Screen = 800x480 <== meets minimum spec of 800x480 pixels
    7. Connectivity = WiFi, Bluetooth, & microUSB <== meets minimum connectivity specs
    8. Price = $236 + ~$23 CA tax & fees ~= $260

    LG Optimus L9 (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3830)
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile (my choice)
    1. OS = Android 4.0.4 <== meets minimum spec of 4.0
    3. CPU = Dual core, 1 GHz, ARM Cortex-A9 <== meets minimum spec of 1GHz
    4. Internal memory = 4 GB <== meets minimum spec of 1GB (isn't this just ROM?)
    5. RAM = 1 GB <== meets minimum spec of 512 MB
    6. Screen = 950x540 <== meets minimum spec of 800x480 pixels
    7. Connectivity = WiFi, Bluetooth, & microUSB <== meets minimum connectivity specs
    8. Price = ~$240.00 + ~$24 CA tax & fees ~= $265

    NOTE: Since the LG myTouchQ is apparently discontinued,
    (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3375)
    I'll assume T-Mobile is currently selling the Huawei myTouchQ.

    T-Mobile myTouch Q (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3795)
    0. Carrier = T-Mobile (my choice)
    1. OS = Android 2.3.6 <== fails minimum spec of 4.0
    3. CPU = 1.4 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 MSM8255 <== meets minimum spec of 1GHz
    4. Internal memory = 4 GB <== meets minimum spec of 1GB (isn't this just ROM?)
    5. RAM = 1 GB <== meets minimum spec of 512 MB
    6. Screen = 800x480 <== meets minimum spec of 800x480 pixels
    7. Connectivity = WiFi, Bluetooth, & microUSB <== meets minimum connectivity specs
    8. Price = $260 +~$26 CA tax & fees ~= $285

    In summary, of those next 3 (much higher priced) phones, only one fails
    to meet the bare-minimum specs. So, the current list of phones that meet
    the bare-minimum specs are:

    a. Samsung Galaxy Exhibit ($260) ==> pass
    b. LG Optimus L9 ($265) ==> pass
    c. T-Mobile myTouch Q (presumably Huawei) ==> fail
     
    Eddie Powalski, Jul 3, 2013
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  3. Eddie Powalski

    Cary Guest

    On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:18:17 +0000, Eddie Powalski wrote:

    > a. Samsung Galaxy Exhibit ($260) ==> pass
    > b. LG Optimus L9 ($265) ==> pass
    > c. T-Mobile myTouch Q (presumably Huawei) ==> fail


    I like the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit better than the LG Optimus L9
    mainly because it has a much better screen and better Wi-Fi
    and usability is better with the later Android phone os.
     
    Cary, Jul 3, 2013
    #3
  4. Eddie Powalski

    Guest

    Re: Is there a single GSM cellphone under $200 that meets the bare minimum specs?

    On 03 Jul 2013 18:17:02 GMT, Cary <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:18:17 +0000, Eddie Powalski wrote:
    >
    >> a. Samsung Galaxy Exhibit ($260) ==> pass
    >> b. LG Optimus L9 ($265) ==> pass
    >> c. T-Mobile myTouch Q (presumably Huawei) ==> fail

    >
    >I like the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit better than the LG Optimus L9
    >mainly because it has a much better screen and better Wi-Fi
    >and usability is better with the later Android phone os.


    The L9 screen is larger and has higher resolution. How is the Wi-Fi
    better?

    And the L9 is available with a hefty discount. I don't see the Exhibit
    at anything but list price. The reviews I find rate the L9 higher than
    the Exhibit.
     
    , Jul 3, 2013
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  5. Eddie Powalski

    Cary Guest

    On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:05:03 -0700, nobody wrote:

    > The L9 screen is larger and has higher resolution. How is the Wi-Fi
    > better?
    >
    > And the L9 is available with a hefty discount. I don't see the Exhibit
    > at anything but list price. The reviews I find rate the L9 higher than
    > the Exhibit.


    The Exhibit is newer. So it must be better since the L9 is old by now.
     
    Cary, Jul 3, 2013
    #5
  6. Eddie Powalski

    Bert Guest

    Re: Is there a single GSM cellphone under $200 that meets the bare minimum specs?

    In news:51d485b4$0$48890$4all.se Cary
    <> wrote:

    > The Exhibit is newer. So it must be better since the L9 is old by now.


    Now, that's interesting.

    --
    St. Paul, MN
     
    Bert, Jul 4, 2013
    #6
  7. Eddie Powalski

    Guest

    Re: Is there a single GSM cellphone under $200 that meets the bare minimum specs?

    On 03 Jul 2013 20:12:37 GMT, Cary <> wrote:

    >On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:05:03 -0700, nobody wrote:
    >
    >> The L9 screen is larger and has higher resolution. How is the Wi-Fi
    >> better?
    >>
    >> And the L9 is available with a hefty discount. I don't see the Exhibit
    >> at anything but list price. The reviews I find rate the L9 higher than
    >> the Exhibit.

    >
    >The Exhibit is newer. So it must be better since the L9 is old by now.



    Great logic. Is a new Is a new Kia better than a year old Mercedes?
    Must be. It's newer.

    Or maybe you ought o consider what you are getting interms of
    function.

    And again, how is the Wi-Fi better?
     
    , Jul 4, 2013
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