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Tony Sivori

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for an eight cam DVR system. I see that a lot of them run
Linux in the DVR, but require Internet Explorer for remote PC access or
uploading.

I run Linux on my computer, so I have Firefox and Chrome, but no Internet
Explorer. I could jump through a few hoops and get IE running on Linux,
but due to security implications I don't want to do that.

What functions do I lose by not using Internet Explorer?
 
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G. Morgan

Jan 1, 1970
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Tony said:
I'm looking for an eight cam DVR system. I see that a lot of them run
Linux in the DVR, but require Internet Explorer for remote PC access or
uploading.

I run Linux on my computer, so I have Firefox and Chrome, but no Internet
Explorer. I could jump through a few hoops and get IE running on Linux,
but due to security implications I don't want to do that.

What functions do I lose by not using Internet Explorer?

All of them except just a live picture.

Most need an Active-X applet for full control. Also, let's say you
install Windows in a Virtual Machine. DO NOT UPGRADE TO IE9. Most DVR's
Active-x control will not run on IE9.

Why not just dual boot? I always have a standby OS (2 Windows
installations) in case the main one gets borked and I don't have time to
fix it.
 
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technomaNge

Jan 1, 1970
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All of them except just a live picture.

Most need an Active-X applet for full control. Also, let's say you
install Windows in a Virtual Machine. DO NOT UPGRADE TO IE9. Most DVR's
Active-x control will not run on IE9.

I have Win SP Pro on my machine at work. The Linux DVRs refuse to show
anything except the sign-in page using Firefox. I guess the Active X
doesn't work with Firefox.

But IE 6, 7, and 8 work fine once you allow the Active X installation.



technomaNge
 
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G. Morgan

Jan 1, 1970
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technomaNge said:
I have Win SP Pro on my machine at work. The Linux DVRs refuse to show
anything except the sign-in page using Firefox. I guess the Active X
doesn't work with Firefox.

But IE 6, 7, and 8 work fine once you allow the Active X installation.

That's as good as it gets for now. Sorry.
 
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Tony Sivori

Jan 1, 1970
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G.Morgan said:
All of them except just a live picture.

So I could do live monitoring on the LAN, but I couldn't set zones, motion
detection, PTZ and the like without IE? Could I still do that directly
through the DVR controls?
Most need an Active-X applet for full control. Also, let's say you
install Windows in a Virtual Machine. DO NOT UPGRADE TO IE9. Most DVR's
Active-x control will not run on IE9.

Why not just dual boot? I always have a standby OS (2 Windows
installations) in case the main one gets borked and I don't have time to
fix it.

I dual booted for a few years after switching to Linux. But I haven't had
Windows on my computer for several years. It would be inconvenient to
reboot to an OS that I have no other use for, just to monitor or control
the security cams.

If worse came to worst, I'd just get a low end Windows machine for use
only with the security cams.
 
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G. Morgan

Jan 1, 1970
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Tony said:
So I could do live monitoring on the LAN, but I couldn't set zones, motion
detection, PTZ and the like without IE? Could I still do that directly
through the DVR controls?

Usually there is a 'mobile' page that just requires a common codec on
the browser end.

What DVR brand/model are we talking about?
 
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Tony Sivori

Jan 1, 1970
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Rob said:
Don't expect too much from that setup.

Where can I get a better one for the same or less money?

If you - or anyone in alt.security.alarms - has for sale, or knows where I
can get a better system for the same money, I'm all ears.
 
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G. Morgan

Jan 1, 1970
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Tony said:
Zmodo PKD-DK8002

http://www.homesecurity361.com/8-ch-security-dvr-infrared-outdoor-camera-system-w-1tb.html

I don't have a smart phone. So for now at least, the phone access would be
useless to me.

Use the smart phone settings on your Linux desktop w/ Firefox.

In addition, this DVR supports Live View via Smart Phone & 3G Mobile
with each of those systems below:
a) iPhoneâ„¢
b) Google Android
c) Blackberryâ„¢ OS as of now: V4.7
d) Running Windows Mobileâ„¢ Pro 5.0 & 6.1 Operating System
e) Running Symbian Operating System: S60 3rd & S60 5th.

All it will be is a live view with buttons to change cameras (likely),
I've never even heard of that brand.


Of course.
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Tony Sivori said:
I'm looking for an eight cam DVR system. I see that a lot of them run
Linux in the DVR, but require Internet Explorer for remote PC access or
uploading.

I run Linux on my computer, so I have Firefox and Chrome, but no Internet
Explorer. I could jump through a few hoops and get IE running on Linux,
but due to security implications I don't want to do that.

What functions do I lose by not using Internet Explorer?

Seems I recall one of the DVRs I played with used JAVA as an alternative to
ActiveX controls. Never tried it with FF/Mo, but... Now if I could just
recall where, when, and what DVR,
 
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Tony Sivori

Jan 1, 1970
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G.Morgan said:
Use the smart phone settings on your Linux desktop w/ Firefox.

Thank you, I didn't realize that was possible.
All it will be is a live view with buttons to change cameras (likely),
I've never even heard of that brand.

Most of the similarly priced systems that I've look at online have very
similar function and appearance. The biggest difference is the bundled
cameras, and to a lesser extent the hard drive size.

All the embedded Linux DVRs use the dammed Active X.

My guess would be that the Chinese manufacturer will custom brand the
product for anyone willing to buy a truckload.

I have to wonder who designed a product, that uses Linux for the embedded
OS, but decided to make a Microsoft only user interface.
 
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