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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Continental europe has been metric for so long I doubt they would even
recognise the term the way you use it.

Stuart


You're a fucking idiot.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Sorry but it is you who are wrong.

I have been involved in engineering in the UK for 40 odd years.

0.001 inch was always referred to as "thou" for thousandths of an inch.

As the metric system came into use the term mil was and is used as
shorthand, in speech, for millimetres because no-one can be bothered to
say millimetres every time you want to pass someone a dimension.

I cannot speak for other english speaking countries but I don't even know
which have gone metric.

Continental europe has been metric for so long I doubt they would even
recognise the term the way you use it.

Stuart

IME, "thou" is what machinists and MEs use(d) to talk in inches *
1E-3, and "mils" is what EEs and electronic technicians use to talk in
inches * 1E-3. Those of us who work in both (all four?) worlds tend to
switch terminology as appropriate to the situation.

For example, inch system insulation thickness is always "mils".
Tolerances on machined holes are always "thou" in the inch system.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Jamie

Jan 1, 1970
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Stuart said:
Well, I'm not going to argue with you Spehro but, as a young "Technical
assistant" in the BBC's transmitter department, when we were assembling
the capacitors for the final stage grid transformers on the Marconi SWB18
HF transmitters, we always measured the Mica sheets (if you can call
something around 4"x3" a sheet) in "thou". Throughout my entire career as
an electronic engineer with the BBC, I don't recall anyone using the term
"mil" instead of "thou".

Of course, in those early days, we frequently "rubbed shoulders" with the
mechanical engineering technicians. Those old pre-war transmitters
required a range of skills. 10mW of audio in, 100kW of amplitude modulated
carrier out. 11kV HT was from continuously pumped, steel tank, mercury arc
rectifiers; bias and filament from motor-generator sets and lots of water
and air for cooling. Maybe their use of terminology "rubbed off" on us
electronic bods.

Regards
Stuart.
Interesting, we have 250Kwatt 100khz oscillators that require 260 amps @
12V ac to warm up the fil.. and put -15VkDC cathode voltage from a 3
phase SCR driving supply, we're good to go.!



http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter Hucker wrote:



Peter Hucker wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:32:54 +0000, Peter Hucker wrote:
Mil is confusing. A lot of folk in metric countries say "mil" short for
millimetre.

Wrong. A mil is 0.001 inch (short for milli-inch); metric countries would
have no reason to use it.

Thanks,
Rich

Wrong. Being in a metric country mil means millimeter.

Some day the US will catch up with the rest of us?


That would be like getting an STD, just to prove you can.

You object to the metric system? [scoffs]


Small minds always scoff.

I take it back, you are even more childish than Ian Field. You can sit next to him in my killfile. Go snuggle up, you'll get on well together.

Says the idiot limey who doesn't even know how to set up his
newsreader.

My newsreader works just fine. Any problems you are experiencing are up your end.

No, dumbass, you are simply too stupid to realize you're phucked up.

You haven't even stated the problem you're having. That's like putting your car into a garage and saying it's broken.
I certainly have, though you're obviously too stupid to remember.

The only thing you've said in the last month is that up there: "Says the idiot limey who doesn't even know how to set up his newsreader."

Like I said, you're a stupid Brit and can't be expected to
understand. Hint: Your line length is phucked up. Of course being
a stupid, arrogant, Brit, you don't care.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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The US of A is not "the rest of the world" even if you are so
geographically challenged as to think so.
I said THE REST OF THE WORLD, idiot. If I only meant the US, I would
have only said THE US.

You fucking total retard.
 
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James Arthur

Jan 1, 1970
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Stuart said:
Those are the facts, sunshine, whether you like them or not :)

Please forgive Archimedes. He's probably a sweetheart in real life,
but not very diplomatic here.

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

Jan 1, 1970
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Ï "Stuart said:
The original valves in those transmitters (CAT29 triodes in push-pull
class C for the final) had pure tungsten filaments running at 20V DC. By
the time I saw them they had CAT30s with thioriated (sp?) tungsten and
were fed at 9V. Same MG set, just lower field current. IIRC the filament
generators were capable of 2000A. DC was used to avoid hum modulation of
the output and the polarity was reversed every week. Later transmitters
used AC fills, usually two phase derived by Scott connection of the supply
transformers.

The last HF transmitters I worked on before moving on to "domestic
services" were Marconi 300kW using a single Thomson Tetrode for the output
- Hypervapourtron (tm) cooling and Pyroblock (tm) grid. Apart from the
output valve pretty well everything was solid state, including the 25kV
rectifier stack.
A 300 MW brown coal unit which I visited in Kozani (east Macedonia-area of
Greece, not the country) had a shunt DC generator, for the excitation of the
alternator. It was 220 V, 1000 A, and had brushes the size of bricks. The
alternator's output was 21 kV, 10 kA with special aluminium rails going
directly to the unit's transformer, where they were upped to 400 kV, 400 A
for transmission to Athens.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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The rapid descent into insults, when you've lost an argument or cannot
come up with reasoned argument, is usually a sign of immaturity so I
ignore them.


However, the FACT remains that you ARE indeed, an idiot. That is aside
from being 100% wrong as well.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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This can do it, in fact it could do it in Windows 3. Update your newsreader.


You're a goddamned idiot.

In Usenet, line length should be held below 72 characters. You are too
stupid to grasp the reasons why. Guess what, dumbfuck? We are in Usenet
here. How many other forums have you invaded and interloped in?

This is why Microsoft's Outlook Express, and other, stupid MS products
(as well as others') that use e-mail writing paradigms in forums where
the rest of the world does things differently. A blatant, overt thumbing
of the nose, which is what they and anyone that uses their shit software
in Usenet should get.

This ain't email.

And no, your "solution" further emblazons just how retarded you are
across your Usenet dipshit forehead.
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter Hucker wrote:



Peter Hucker wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:32:54 +0000, Peter Hucker wrote:
Mil is confusing. A lot of folk in metric countries say "mil" short for
millimetre.

Wrong. A mil is 0.001 inch (short for milli-inch); metric countries would
have no reason to use it.

Thanks,
Rich

Wrong. Being in a metric country mil means millimeter.

Some day the US will catch up with the rest of us?


That would be like getting an STD, just to prove you can.

You object to the metric system? [scoffs]


Small minds always scoff.

I take it back, you are even more childish than Ian Field. You can sit next to him in my killfile. Go snuggle up, you'll get on well together.

Says the idiot limey who doesn't even know how to set up his
newsreader.

My newsreader works just fine. Any problems you are experiencing are up your end.

No, dumbass, you are simply too stupid to realize you're phucked up.

You haven't even stated the problem you're having. That's like putting your car into a garage and saying it's broken.

I certainly have, though you're obviously too stupid to remember.

The only thing you've said in the last month is that up there: "Says the idiot limey who doesn't even know how to set up his newsreader."

Like I said, you're a stupid Brit and can't be expected to
understand. Hint: Your line length is phucked up. Of course being
a stupid, arrogant, Brit, you don't care.

http://www.hucker.plus.com/temp/notepad.jpg

This can do it, in fact it could do it in Windows 3. Update your newsreader.

You've simply proved that you are a stupid, arrogant Brit.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter Hucker wrote:
snip



I didn't think you were smart enough to use a kill filter. There
might be a tiny bit of hope for you. That is, after hell freezes over.
:(


Oh, the shear wit!

Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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If you don't like the sigs, ignore them. That's what the delimiter is for.

Coming from an absolute Usenet retard that doesn't even know what the
line length is... That's rich.

You are dumber than a beached whale carcass. Beached and dead is pretty
damned dumb, boy.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter Hucker wrote:



Peter Hucker wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:32:54 +0000, Peter Hucker wrote:
Mil is confusing. A lot of folk in metric countries say "mil" short for
millimetre.

Wrong. A mil is 0.001 inch (short for milli-inch); metric countries would
have no reason to use it.

Thanks,
Rich

Wrong. Being in a metric country mil means millimeter.

Some day the US will catch up with the rest of us?


That would be like getting an STD, just to prove you can.

You object to the metric system? [scoffs]


Small minds always scoff.

I take it back, you are even more childish than Ian Field. You can sit next to him in my killfile. Go snuggle up, you'll get on well together.
Says the idiot limey who doesn't even know how to set up his
newsreader.

My newsreader works just fine. Any problems you are experiencing are up your end.

The fucking retard is using a poorly configured mail client to read his
news (that's you, HuckTard). What an idiot you are, HuckTard.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Get back to your paded cell.


Is that ALL the pommy pussy AOL retard can muster?

Bwuahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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My screen is wide enough for 160 characters. Yours is probably 120? At any rate, if your newsreader is working properly, my lines will wrap to your screen size, whatever that may be. Why the hell would you want it in a neat column with blank space to the right, and have to scroll further down to read the whole message?


Wrong. MOST properly authored and configured newsreaders correctly
perform a line feed *while authoring* a post at the configured line
length.

So, a PROPERLY WORKING NEWS READER creates messages properly, without
some dope that doesn't know how to hit return being allowed to write CRAP
like that which you post.

They ALL view them regardless of how fucking retarded the author is.
That would be you, retard boy. It has NOTHING to do with fucking line
wrap, you stupid TWIT! It is about the authoring session, not the viewer
of the already posted messages. Your skull is a mile thick... all BONE!

Again, I said it goes beyond mere news client issues, you retarded
****.

Also, dipshit, scrolling right to read your overtly retarded line
length is no different than reading the way English speaking humans have
done for centuries, which requires scrolling down or turning the page.

You're a goddamned retard. I do not filter most idiots, but you are so
fucking stupid that I am considering it as the shit you write is so
stupid it makes me worry about some of it rubbing off. You're an
absolute idiot. You're a retarded, non-conformal bastard, and you are
lucky that I AM conformal or I'd put some fast moving lead in your thick
fucking head.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Line length is nothing to do with sig delimiters. One is a guideline, the other is a command to strip the text below.


Dumbass. The remark was about how stupid you are about line length,
yet you want us all to believe you have brains because your retarded ass
decided to get a grasp of how a sig works.

A: You ARE utterly retarded about line length.

and

B: We all already know that you do not possess any brains, much less
intelligence, so you can stop trying to impress folks.

That is aside from the fact that the material you choose to 'impress
us' with further proves just how stupid you are.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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Lever: As in a flush lever?
As in pieces of shit like you... Yes.

You have to have an IQ over 40 to post here.
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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I'll explain to you again, as you obviously aren't listening. Not everyone wants the same width.


Good for them, you retarded ****. This is Usenet. Here, it doesn't
matter what you or "everybody' 'wants'.

There are conventions. I would not expect a complete and utter retard
like you to grasp that fact, since you are obviously too goddamned stupid
to even know what a convention is.

You epitomize Usenet stupidity.
 
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