Cant Set dial attempts with NX8E..help!

[Jonson]

I have an NX8E. We have it set up to page us when alarms goes. I changed
the pager phone number today and when testing kept getting multiple pages
when NX8E was set for 1 attempt.
I set it for 1 attempt and it pages 8 times, I set it for 15 and it pages
23 times.
Its like it adds 7 or 8 to the number I set in Location 3.
I counted the actual dial attempts while listening in on the phone.

I set the following configuration via keypad and tried it with both keypads
I have installed (Segment shown to right and in order):
Location 0: 15, x,x,x,x,x,x,13,13,x,x,x,x,12,14. x=dial up and data
sent to pager
Location 1: 0,0,0,0,0,0 No Account info
location 2: 4 Set for
Pager mode
Location 3 1,1 1 dial
attempt, Abort after Phone 1
Other phones (2 and 3) not used.

With the above, it will dial the pager correctly, but it does it 9 times
(when set for 1 attempt). And locks me out from using the phone during
that....so not a good thing to not have the phone for the several minutes
its takes to dial 9 times.

I tried an experiment and set various attempt qtys and got these results:

1set then 8 attempts
2set then 9 attempts
0set then 16 attemtps
15set then 23 attempts

What happens if I load a "load factory defaults"....does the whole alarm
have to be reprogrammed?

Any comments appreciated if you might have some clues for me on this one.
thanks.
Robert

 

[Jonson]

Got it fixed. I had the pager data in the same field as phone number e.g.

Location 0: 15 (tone dialing), pager #, pause, pause, pager data, #, end
The pager data has to go into Location 1 (account code) vs 0.
I did that becuase account code location only holds 6 digits and Phone
number field has 20 digits and I wanted more digits to send to pager. Ill
live with six .

Hope this helps if someone else make the same mistake,
thank you..

 

[Holger]

Actually isn't it better it dials you multiple times rather than just once?
It is your security afterall.

Don't forget, your paging network can go down at anytime without you knowing
it.

Relying on your pager to provide your home with security is not a great way
to do this. You should reconsider and get central station service, it's
worth every penny.


<H>

 

[Jonson]

Also dont forget......the central station can go down any time without you
know it. Is it UL certified....does it have adequate backup power and
lighting protection and redundant systems? If you think about it, the
central station depends on the same infrastructure as the paging system.
But he paging system works faster and cheaper. And in my case it pages 2
pagers from different companies. worth every penny...and thats quit a
bargain since its free.

 

[Jonson]

sir.......i think the justification is in your own mind and is illustrated
clearly in your response (or advertisement). 2 local pagers.......versus a
long distance minimum wage responder in New Hampshire....all the problems
you decribe would more affect getting connection across country......as I
said.....same infrastructure.....more complex.= the probably of failure is
exceptionally higher for call across country, if the call makes.....if the
minimum wager operator answers, if the operator then can connect with the
phone numbers provided to call.......AND IF THERE IS POLICE RESPONSE ALLOWED
IN THAT AREA......I'll take the pager hands down and so will the
Availability and Reliability analysis.

 

[RH.Campbell]

Your choice.....justify your decision however you like....your security is
your responsibility......

RHC

 

[Mr Ed]

Hi Jonson,

FTR, I don't subscribe to the idea that sex with animals should be taboo
in this day and age. After all, we're descended from these species and
owe a lot of what we are today to them. Shouldn't we give back a little
of that gift in the ofrm of our own seed to them?

Interesting viewpoint Rrrrobert.
Whhrrr!

You want to get to gether for a drink and some oats?

 

[Jonson]

ty ill sleep better knowing my security is not left to the hands of a
minimun wage part time green carder

 

[Jonson]

so true....thanks

Hi Jonson,

FTR, I don't subscribe to the idea that central station monitoring is the
be-all and end-all of electronic security. It's a useful service for most
people but not necessarily for everyone. If you happen to reside in a
location where police response is slow or inefficient, burglar alarm
monitoring is probably worthless to you. For many people fire alarm
monitoring is of greater import. The decision rests with the alarm user --
or at least it should.

That said, there are some things about a high quality UL-listed station
which you might like to know. Better stations have redundant electric
generators which depend on different fuel sources. The best should have
separate telephone services connected to different telco COs and running on
redundant KSUs.

The goal is to have the central station services survive even a natural
disaster -- anything but total destruction of the station itself. There are
even some stations with out-of-state backup locations which perform
fail-over services. ISTR that ADT corporate has (had?) such an arrangement.

Of course, even if the central station facility is for all intents and
purposes indestructible, there's no guaranty that they will give fast,
reliable service. As with everything else, the client must evaluate what is
being offered and decide for himself if it's worth the price.

Regards,
Robert

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[Mark Leuck]

ty ill sleep better knowing my security is not left to the hands of a
minimun wage part time green carder

You know little of the industry I see, I don't know how well I'd sleep if my
security relied on a 30 cent alkaline battery in my pager

 

[J. Stevens]

Wow! Where do you get 'em for 30 cents??
js

Mark Leuck

 

[J. Stevens]

Watch it, I see Paul has given a "last warning", and you know how dangerous
those Belgians are.
js

 

[Frank Olson]

Sure...

Note: One of the village idiots has been forging my name to posts like the
one below.

 

[Mike Dupre]

Wind it back a few steps...
how does your panel know the signal has been received okay by the pager? How
many tries does it make? and how long does this tie up your phone line?

 

[Frank Olson]

Hi Jonson,

FTR, I don't subscribe to the idea that central station monitoring is the
be-all and end-all of electronic security.

If that's so, why are you selling alarm systems all of which are capable of
transmitting in a number of formats to a central station receiver???

It's a useful service for most
people but not necessarily for everyone. If you happen to reside in a
location where police response is slow or inefficient, burglar alarm
monitoring is probably worthless to you. For many people fire alarm
monitoring is of greater import. The decision rests with the alarm user --
or at least it should.

If police response in the customer's area is slow or inefficient, then he
should be taking that up with the local municipal or city council. He's a
rate payer and deserves the best his tax dollars can buy. Fire alarm
hold-up/panic, and medical alerts all carry equal weight... all have to do
with life safety and should be the number one reason for ensuring your
customers are made aware of the benefits of a monitored alarm. Your opening
statement reveals a good deal more about where your priorities are than you
think.

That said, there are some things about a high quality UL-listed station
which you might like to know. Better stations have redundant electric
generators which depend on different fuel sources. The best should have
separate telephone services connected to different telco COs and running on
redundant KSUs.

Some "low quality" CS's even allow end users to program their own alarm
panels which requires access to their receiver phone lines. I'd be leery of
placing my trust in *any* station that did this...

The goal is to have the central station services survive even a natural
disaster -- anything but total destruction of the station itself. There are
even some stations with out-of-state backup locations which perform
fail-over services. ISTR that ADT corporate has (had?) such an

arrangement.

Shows how much you know... ADT *still* maintains a "mirror" service (at
least in Canada). So does Counterforce.

Of course, even if the central station facility is for all intents and
purposes indestructible, there's no guaranty that they will give fast,
reliable service.

Or maintain strict security protocols from their Dealers.

As with everything else, the client must evaluate what is
being offered and decide for himself if it's worth the price.

Yep!

--
Frank E. Olson
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information.

 

[Hooferi]

Watch it, I see Paul has given a "last warning", and you know how
dangerous those Belgians are.

You've obviously never had a lot of Stella to drink.

 

[Hooferi]

I dated a Stella once, and she was a tall drink of water, does that
count? js

did she taste like piss and give you a great big fucking heaache for two
days?
could she piss on weeds and kill an entire acre with one quart?
did she smell bad?


Well?

 

[Frank Olson]

Didn't the "village idiots" disband some time ago??? Like right after their
movie???

 

[Hooferi]

No, it wasn't your sister, it was someone else.

Oh, OK,thanks.
you obviously have a better nose for it than I/.


Hoofy.