Bouncing cells?

Discussion in 'Electrical Engineering' started by DaveC, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. DaveC

    DaveC Guest

    DaveC, Aug 17, 2013
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  2. DaveC

    Robert Baer Guest

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    > On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:59:11 -0700) it happened DaveC
    > <> wrote in
    > <-september.org>:
    >
    >> That crazy Ozzie is at it again:
    >>
    >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRf9JTg3QwA
    >>
    >> Fascinating...

    >
    > Nice,
    > facinating,
    > I just measured the weight of 3 eneloop AAA cells.
    > 2 good ones measure 11.77 and 11.72 gram, fully charged
    > and one that is bad (high Ri) also charged, measured 12.28 gram
    > ?????
    > Later I will measure one of these good ones when it is empty.
    > The bad one (that is heavier!) bounces more...
    >
    > ????

    Shows that electrons have more mass due to less bounce; heaver cell
    shows that the lost electrons have NEGATIVE weight due to the NEGATIVE
    charge.
    Now combine these effects with a cyclo-magnetic positronator, and one
    can make either a neg-energy generator, or a graviotometric repellor
    (AKA anti-gravity machine).
     
    Robert Baer, Aug 17, 2013
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  3. On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 05:14:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <> wrote:

    >Forgot to do the bounce test on the empty one...


    The video mentions alkaline batteries. The Eneloop is a NiMH
    rechargable battery.

    Rechargable batteries have a safety valve that will blow off gas if
    the battery is greatly overcharged. This would suggest that a fully
    charged battery has more gas in it than a discharged one. If that is
    correct, it would follow that fully charged battery should bounce more
    than an empty one.
    --
    RoRo
     
    Robert Roland, Aug 18, 2013
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  4. On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:35:19 +0100, "Gareth Magennis"
    <> wrote:

    >Is it not more the case that the amount of bounce has more to do with the
    >shock waves moving through the medium inside the battery, rather than the
    >actual mass of the battery?


    Yes, exactly. Gas is compressible and elastic, while liquids are not.
    Try filling a football with water and see the difference.

    In Kip Kay's video which Dave Jones refers to, it is also mentioned:
    http://kipkay.com/episodes/amazing-way-to-test-batteries/
    --
    RoRo
     
    Robert Roland, Aug 18, 2013
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  5. DaveC

    DaveC Guest

    > Is it not more the case that the amount of bounce has more to do with the
    > shock waves moving through the medium inside the battery, rather than the
    > actual mass of the battery?
    > e.g. a battery full of a glass-like medium would bounce more than if that
    > same medium was changed by chemical reaction into a more jelly type medium?


    Weight difference cannot be ignored. Maybe both weight and density play
    roles?
     
    DaveC, Aug 18, 2013
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  6. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 05:45:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <> wrote:

    >On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:59:11 -0700) it happened DaveC
    ><> wrote in
    ><-september.org>:
    >
    >>That crazy Ozzie is at it again:
    >>
    >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRf9JTg3QwA
    >>
    >>Fascinating...

    >
    >Nice,
    >facinating,
    >I just measured the weight of 3 eneloop AAA cells.
    >2 good ones measure 11.77 and 11.72 gram, fully charged
    >and one that is bad (high Ri) also charged, measured 12.28 gram
    >?????
    >Later I will measure one of these good ones when it is empty.
    >The bad one (that is heavier!) bounces more...
    >
    >????



    Measure one full. Deplete it, and measure the SAME ONE empty. Sheesh.
     
    DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno, Aug 24, 2013
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  7. On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 00:49:56 -0800, Robert Baer <>
    wrote:

    >Jan Panteltje wrote:
    >> On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:59:11 -0700) it happened DaveC
    >> <> wrote in
    >> <-september.org>:
    >>
    >>> That crazy Ozzie is at it again:
    >>>
    >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRf9JTg3QwA
    >>>
    >>> Fascinating...

    >>
    >> Nice,
    >> facinating,
    >> I just measured the weight of 3 eneloop AAA cells.
    >> 2 good ones measure 11.77 and 11.72 gram, fully charged
    >> and one that is bad (high Ri) also charged, measured 12.28 gram
    >> ?????
    >> Later I will measure one of these good ones when it is empty.
    >> The bad one (that is heavier!) bounces more...
    >>
    >> ????

    > Shows that electrons have more mass due to less bounce; heaver cell
    >shows that the lost electrons have NEGATIVE weight due to the NEGATIVE
    >charge.
    > Now combine these effects with a cyclo-magnetic positronator, and one
    >can make either a neg-energy generator, or a graviotometric repellor
    >(AKA anti-gravity machine).



    Do not forget to log into your interocitor so you can communicate with
    Metaluna.

    We should fire these batteries through the Bead condenser (model #:
    AB-619) and see if it can make the observations clearer.
     
    DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno, Aug 24, 2013
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