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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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I have a Ademco AM100 i think.. that is what it says on it..
im trying to find literature on how to program zones.. what i have
found does not go into detail on how to get in to programming mode..
could anyone here help?..
THANKS
 
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Michael

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,
According to the Ademco sight, it should program just like a Vista
20. In programming field *56 is the zone programming, but using an
alpha keypad is almost a necessity if you don't do it regularly. Hope
that helps.
Michael
 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks for the reply Michael.
The Guy i got it from put it in and set it that it will dial a bogus
#.. i just installed a new motion in my shed and want to set it up
cause someone stole my $250. Trimmer.. i don't have an alpha keypad
and have read but don't understand the papers from Ademco's site.. i
guess i should just get and installer in here and do it or show me..
is there a way to reset or default the Installer code? default is 4112
according to papers.. but it wont work.. i have 3 different keypads
hooked up in 3 diff rooms.. but don't think there alpha..

Thanks again..
 
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Michael

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi
If he set a bogus # in there to dial, it will try to dial, and then
when it fails, it will show comm fail or "FC" on the keypad. To make
it local only, you'd need to blank out the phone number fields and the
account number fields. If you have an alpha keypad, you'll see the
words "Disarmed" And "Ready to Arm" on it. Anyway. if you don't know
the installer's code, no problem. Power the system down (unhook the ac
power and battery). Power it up a few seconds later, and you'll see
"d1" on the keypad ("Busy - Standby on an Alpha). Within 50 seconds,
get to a keypad and press the * and # at the same time. If it's not
locked out, it will go to field 20 (20 on the display). Make sure to
press *20 then a new four digit code. That will become the new
installer code. to VIEW an entry, press # followed by the field
number. (Pressing #20 will SHOW you, one digit at a time, the current
installer code) pressing * before a field will let you edit the
contents, pressing # will let you view the entries... except for
zones. That is a different ballgame. I do have a thought. Zones 7 and
8 are defaulted as motion zones, and most installers are lazy in that
if the zone isn't used, they'll strap a resistor across it and leave
it programmed. So, they may already be programmed for you. IF you need
more info let me know.
Michael
 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks Michael.. you have been a big help.. but yes i do need help with the zones.. i attached pics
of the way it is hooked up.. i Hooked up Zone 5 with out resistor.. wasn't sure which on to put it
on.. as you may already know zone 5 is Slot 15 (HI) and 16 (LO) .. what I'm really confused on other
than the Resistor.. is programming the zones.. cause as you know that you have
Zone Desc - zone# - Zone type - Part'n # - Report Code (RC) - TYPE - TIME
On Page 4 and 5 of the programming form, it shows how to do it but what zone type should i use..
for Shed part would be 1, report code (HEX) ??? .. Loop Input type Hardwired (HW),, Response time
would be #1 for 350msec or should i use something else?..

Let me see if i have this right..
I would put in Installer Code + 8 + 0 + 0 *56 + 05 + 07 + 1 + 0005 + 1
for Zone 5 + Type 24hr Audible + Part 1 + Hex zone 05 + HW is automatic and response time is 1 for
350msec... would this be correct? and which side do i put the resistor on the Protective Loop or
Closed Circuit?.. Thanks so much..
 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael ... are you still around... or can anyone help me on this ... i tried it and it didn't work
on setting up the zone.

TIA
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Police22 said:
Michael ... are you still around... or can anyone help me on this ... i tried it and it didn't work
on setting up the zone.


Email me.
 
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Rory

Jan 1, 1970
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first i havent heard of an ademco AM100, is it new/old? How many zones
does it have and i imagine from your post it has partitions? Do you
mean a Vista 100??

Anyway, what exactly are you trying to do, stop if from sending
signals over the phone, or from saying FC or Comm Failure on the
Keypad???

Let me know, been installing ademco for over 5 years so i may be able
to help (cant promise :)

email me as i dont check this regularly and it doesnt use my regular
email.

[email protected]

Rory
 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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first i havent heard of an ademco AM100, is it new/old? How many zones
does it have and i imagine from your post it has partitions? Do you
mean a Vista 100??

------------------ Well i have been told that its a Vista 20, the AM100 is what it has on board..
------------------ it has 8 zones with 2 partitions
Anyway, what exactly are you trying to do, stop if from sending
signals over the phone, or from saying FC or Comm Failure on the
Keypad???

------------------ Add a motion to zone 5...
------------------ and no i don't get any errors like that...
Let me know, been installing ademco for over 5 years so i may be able
to help (cant promise :)

email me as i dont check this regularly and it doesnt use my regular
email.

[email protected]

Rory

Thanks Rory


Police22
 
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Michael

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey,
Ok, the resistor can be anywhere on the zone wire between terminal
15 and 16. It's designed to be an end of line resistor to supervise
the loop (in case the line is shorted together). It could be put right
under one of the terminals, and some installers do it that way. The
choice is up to you. As long as the wire comes out of one terminal,
through the resistor, through the motion detector relay (C and NC),
and to the other terminal. I can post or email some crude drawings if
it would help (remove NOSPAM and extra .com from my email address to
write directly)

As far as zone programming, if you don't have an alpha keypad, it
will be tough, but I could try to walk you through it down step by
step. Do you have a copy of the installation manual? I don't recall<g>
Basically, the Zone Desc is the zone number (In your case Zone 5),
Zone Type is whichever you want (a 4 or a 10 would probably be the
best option for a motion) Part'n # would be a 1 (everything else is
probably on one) Report Code has to do with calling into a central
station (leave or set to 00), Input type will be 01 (for zones on the
panel, you cannot change it), response time should be left at 350ms

What about the guy who put it in. Have you tried getting him to
program it for you?

Sorry, I just looked over your post more closely (it's late,
sorry<g>)

Installer Code + 8+0+0+*+56+0+05*+*+10*+*+1*+*+0000*+*+1*+* (OK,
at this point, "06" should come up on the display, which means you
have gone through zone 5's programming, and would be about to continue
to zone 6. When you SEE 06, press 00* to exit zone programming, then
*99 to exit programming altogether. There... simple, right? :)
This caveat... I am doing this ENTIRELY from memory right now (no
visual cues, only the power of my mind.... be afraid... be very
afraid<g>. Honestly, the only field you need to alter is the zone type
(make it a 10), and if you press * after that, it will eventually get
you to the "06" which is safe ground (getting out IS correct, I'm not
sure about every singe * in the zone programming itself<g>)

If you need more help, let me know!
 
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Philip Carter

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,
send me an email if your still having problems.... I may be able to help
you. I have just gone through a similar problem with the dialing and
programming and all that...

My email is [email protected]
Just remove the nospam from the email address...

Philip

Michael said:
Hey,
Ok, the resistor can be anywhere on the zone wire between terminal
15 and 16. It's designed to be an end of line resistor to supervise
the loop (in case the line is shorted together). It could be put right
under one of the terminals, and some installers do it that way. The
choice is up to you. As long as the wire comes out of one terminal,
through the resistor, through the motion detector relay (C and NC),
and to the other terminal. I can post or email some crude drawings if
it would help (remove NOSPAM and extra .com from my email address to
write directly)

As far as zone programming, if you don't have an alpha keypad, it
will be tough, but I could try to walk you through it down step by
step. Do you have a copy of the installation manual? I don't recall<g>
Basically, the Zone Desc is the zone number (In your case Zone 5),
Zone Type is whichever you want (a 4 or a 10 would probably be the
best option for a motion) Part'n # would be a 1 (everything else is
probably on one) Report Code has to do with calling into a central
station (leave or set to 00), Input type will be 01 (for zones on the
panel, you cannot change it), response time should be left at 350ms

What about the guy who put it in. Have you tried getting him to
program it for you?

Sorry, I just looked over your post more closely (it's late,
sorry<g>)

Installer Code + 8+0+0+*+56+0+05*+*+10*+*+1*+*+0000*+*+1*+* (OK,
at this point, "06" should come up on the display, which means you
have gone through zone 5's programming, and would be about to continue
to zone 6. When you SEE 06, press 00* to exit zone programming, then
*99 to exit programming altogether. There... simple, right? :)
This caveat... I am doing this ENTIRELY from memory right now (no
visual cues, only the power of my mind.... be afraid... be very
afraid<g>. Honestly, the only field you need to alter is the zone type
(make it a 10), and if you press * after that, it will eventually get
you to the "06" which is safe ground (getting out IS correct, I'm not
sure about every singe * in the zone programming itself<g>)

If you need more help, let me know!

Thanks Michael.. you have been a big help.. but yes i do need help with the zones.. i attached pics
of the way it is hooked up.. i Hooked up Zone 5 with out resistor.. wasn't sure which on to put it
on.. as you may already know zone 5 is Slot 15 (HI) and 16 (LO) .. what I'm really confused on other
than the Resistor.. is programming the zones.. cause as you know that you have
Zone Desc - zone# - Zone type - Part'n # - Report Code (RC) - TYPE - TIME
On Page 4 and 5 of the programming form, it shows how to do it but what zone type should i use..
for Shed part would be 1, report code (HEX) ??? .. Loop Input type Hardwired (HW),, Response time
would be #1 for 350msec or should i use something else?..

Let me see if i have this right..
I would put in Installer Code + 8 + 0 + 0 *56 + 05 + 07 + 1 + 0005 + 1
for Zone 5 + Type 24hr Audible + Part 1 + Hex zone 05 + HW is automatic and response time is 1 for
350msec... would this be correct? and which side do i put the resistor on the Protective Loop or
Closed Circuit?.. Thanks so much..
 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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Thank You SO MUCH... i will try that tonight when i get home.. i have to leave for work now..
already late.. but i do have the programming form from ademco's website.. so thanks.. will let you
know..
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Vista-20AMT, Ameritech version which is a Vista-20SE without the
partitioning

Rory said:
first i havent heard of an ademco AM100, is it new/old? How many zones
does it have and i imagine from your post it has partitions? Do you
mean a Vista 100??

Anyway, what exactly are you trying to do, stop if from sending
signals over the phone, or from saying FC or Comm Failure on the
Keypad???

Let me know, been installing ademco for over 5 years so i may be able
to help (cant promise :)

email me as i dont check this regularly and it doesnt use my regular
email.

[email protected]

Rory


Police22 <[email protected]> wrote in message
Michael ... are you still around... or can anyone help me on this ... i tried it and it didn't work
on setting up the zone.

TIA

Thanks Michael.. you have been a big help.. but yes i do need help with the zones.. i attached pics
of the way it is hooked up.. i Hooked up Zone 5 with out resistor.. wasn't sure which on to put it
on.. as you may already know zone 5 is Slot 15 (HI) and 16 (LO) .. what I'm really confused on other
than the Resistor.. is programming the zones.. cause as you know that you have
Zone Desc - zone# - Zone type - Part'n # - Report Code (RC) - TYPE - TIME
On Page 4 and 5 of the programming form, it shows how to do it but what zone type should i use..
for Shed part would be 1, report code (HEX) ??? .. Loop Input type Hardwired (HW),, Response time
would be #1 for 350msec or should i use something else?..

Let me see if i have this right..
I would put in Installer Code + 8 + 0 + 0 *56 + 05 + 07 + 1 + 0005 + 1
for Zone 5 + Type 24hr Audible + Part 1 + Hex zone 05 + HW is automati c and response time is 1 for
350msec... would this be correct? and which side do i put the resistor on the Protective Loop or
Closed Circuit?.. Thanks so much..

 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
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Michael.. well that did not work.. the programming of zone 5.. it would beep 3 times after i did the
05.. but after that.. nothing.... if it post right.. i included the pdf from ademco on this
programming.. cause you said you didn't have it or something..
 
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Philip Carter

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey,

Have you found a manual for the system yet?

If you have can you send me a copy to look at....

If you havent then please give me an email and i'll get you in contact with
someone who might be able to help you...

Thanks,
Philip

Police22 said:
Michael.. well that did not work.. the programming of zone 5.. it would beep 3 times after i did the
05.. but after that.. nothing.... if it post right.. i included the pdf from ademco on this
programming.. cause you said you didn't have it or something..

Hey,
Ok, the resistor can be anywhere on the zone wire between terminal
15 and 16. It's designed to be an end of line resistor to supervise
the loop (in case the line is shorted together). It could be put right
under one of the terminals, and some installers do it that way. The
choice is up to you. As long as the wire comes out of one terminal,
through the resistor, through the motion detector relay (C and NC),
and to the other terminal. I can post or email some crude drawings if
it would help (remove NOSPAM and extra .com from my email address to
write directly)

As far as zone programming, if you don't have an alpha keypad, it
will be tough, but I could try to walk you through it down step by
step. Do you have a copy of the installation manual? I don't recall<g>
Basically, the Zone Desc is the zone number (In your case Zone 5),
Zone Type is whichever you want (a 4 or a 10 would probably be the
best option for a motion) Part'n # would be a 1 (everything else is
probably on one) Report Code has to do with calling into a central
station (leave or set to 00), Input type will be 01 (for zones on the
panel, you cannot change it), response time should be left at 350ms

What about the guy who put it in. Have you tried getting him to
program it for you?

Sorry, I just looked over your post more closely (it's late,
sorry<g>)

Installer Code + 8+0+0+*+56+0+05*+*+10*+*+1*+*+0000*+*+1*+* (OK,
at this point, "06" should come up on the display, which means you
have gone through zone 5's programming, and would be about to continue
to zone 6. When you SEE 06, press 00* to exit zone programming, then
*99 to exit programming altogether. There... simple, right? :)
This caveat... I am doing this ENTIRELY from memory right now (no
visual cues, only the power of my mind.... be afraid... be very
afraid<g>. Honestly, the only field you need to alter is the zone type
(make it a 10), and if you press * after that, it will eventually get
you to the "06" which is safe ground (getting out IS correct, I'm not
sure about every singe * in the zone programming itself<g>)

If you need more help, let me know!

Thanks Michael.. you have been a big help.. but yes i do need help with the zones.. i attached pics
of the way it is hooked up.. i Hooked up Zone 5 with out resistor.. wasn't sure which on to put it
on.. as you may already know zone 5 is Slot 15 (HI) and 16 (LO) .. what I'm really confused on other
than the Resistor.. is programming the zones.. cause as you know that you have
Zone Desc - zone# - Zone type - Part'n # - Report Code (RC) - TYPE - TIME
On Page 4 and 5 of the programming form, it shows how to do it but what zone type should i use..
for Shed part would be 1, report code (HEX) ??? .. Loop Input type Hardwired (HW),, Response time
would be #1 for 350msec or should i use something else?..

Let me see if i have this right..
I would put in Installer Code + 8 + 0 + 0 *56 + 05 + 07 + 1 + 0005 + 1
for Zone 5 + Type 24hr Audible + Part 1 + Hex zone 05 + HW is automatic and response time is 1 for
350msec... would this be correct? and which side do i put the resistor on the Protective Loop or
Closed Circuit?.. Thanks so much..
 
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Rory

Jan 1, 1970
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Enter like this once in program mode.

*56 (Zone Programming)

05*
*
04 (ZONE TYPE) - you will see something, either 00 or a zone type such
as 04, 10 etc if it was previously programmed.

*

1 (PARTITION) - on a 6128 keypad you will not see this, just star
through

*

1111 (REPORT CODES) - if it is new zone, it will be 00, just enter
your report codes, we use 1's for all report codes down here.

*
*
*

completes programming of that zone, you will not see anything on a
6128 keypad, just keep staring through until you come to the next
zone, 06, then 00 to exit.

Exit programming mode
*99

Put resistor on LOW side, so the reistor for zone 5 & 6 are together
on the same screw. #16

Tie the wire to the resistor, (example: if you are using yellow and
green on the other end) yellow OR green can go either way around, one
to the resistor end, twist it on, the other to the screw on, so say
you put yellow on the resistor on screw #16, put green on screw # 15.

Thats all the re is to it.

Test the zone by faulting it.
 
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Mark Leuck

Jan 1, 1970
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Assuming this IS an SE version you missed the first step after entering zone
programming which is either the "Set to Confirm" or "Program Tool?" prompt.

I would never consider walking someone who knows very little about the panel
through zone programming WITHOUT a proper keypad

Rory said:
Enter like this once in program mode.

*56 (Zone Programming)

05*
*
04 (ZONE TYPE) - you will see something, either 00 or a zone type such
as 04, 10 etc if it was previously programmed.

*

1 (PARTITION) - on a 6128 keypad you will not see this, just star
through

*

1111 (REPORT CODES) - if it is new zone, it will be 00, just enter
your report codes, we use 1's for all report codes down here.

*
*
*

completes programming of that zone, you will not see anything on a
6128 keypad, just keep staring through until you come to the next
zone, 06, then 00 to exit.

Exit programming mode
*99

Put resistor on LOW side, so the reistor for zone 5 & 6 are together
on the same screw. #16

Tie the wire to the resistor, (example: if you are using yellow and
green on the other end) yellow OR green can go either way around, one
to the resistor end, twist it on, the other to the screw on, so say
you put yellow on the resistor on screw #16, put green on screw # 15.

Thats all the re is to it.

Test the zone by faulting it.




Police22 <[email protected]> wrote in message
Michael.. well that did not work.. the programming of zone 5.. it would beep 3 times after i did the
05.. but after that.. nothing.... if it post right.. i included the pdf from ademco on this
programming.. cause you said you didn't have it or something..

Hey,
Ok, the resistor can be anywhere on the zone wire between terminal
15 and 16. It's designed to be an end of line resistor to supervise
the loop (in case the line is shorted together). It could be put right
under one of the terminals, and some installers do it that way. The
choice is up to you. As long as the wire comes out of one terminal,
through the resistor, through the motion detector relay (C and NC),
and to the other terminal. I can post or email some crude drawings if
it would help (remove NOSPAM and extra .com from my email address to
write directly)

As far as zone programming, if you don't have an alpha keypad, it
will be tough, but I could try to walk you through it down step by
step. Do you have a copy of the installation manual? I don't recall<g>
Basically, the Zone Desc is the zone number (In your case Zone 5),
Zone Type is whichever you want (a 4 or a 10 would probably be the
best option for a motion) Part'n # would be a 1 (everything else is
probably on one) Report Code has to do with calling into a central
station (leave or set to 00), Input type will be 01 (for zones on the
panel, you cannot change it), response time should be left at 350ms

What about the guy who put it in. Have you tried getting him to
program it for you?

Sorry, I just looked over your post more closely (it's late,
sorry<g>)

Installer Code + 8+0+0+*+56+0+05*+*+10*+*+1*+*+0000*+*+1*+* (OK,
at this point, "06" should come up on the display, which means you
have gone through zone 5's programming, and would be about to continue
to zone 6. When you SEE 06, press 00* to exit zone programming, then
*99 to exit programming altogether. There... simple, right? :)
This caveat... I am doing this ENTIRELY from memory right now (no
visual cues, only the power of my mind.... be afraid... be very
afraid<g>. Honestly, the only field you need to alter is the zone type
(make it a 10), and if you press * after that, it will eventually get
you to the "06" which is safe ground (getting out IS correct, I'm not
sure about every singe * in the zone programming itself<g>)

If you need more help, let me know!

Thanks Michael.. you have been a big help.. but yes i do need help with the zones.. i attached pics
of the way it is hooked up.. i Hooked up Zone 5 with out resistor.. wasn't sure which on to put it
on.. as you may already know zone 5 is Slot 15 (HI) and 16 (LO) .. what I'm really confused on other
than the Resistor.. is programming the zones.. cause as you know that you have
Zone Desc - zone# - Zone type - Part'n # - Report Code (RC) - TYPE - TIME
On Page 4 and 5 of the programming form, it shows how to do it but what zone type should i use..
for Shed part would be 1, report code (HEX) ??? .. Loop Input type Hardwired (HW),, Response time
would be #1 for 350msec or should i use something else?..

Let me see if i have this right..
I would put in Installer Code + 8 + 0 + 0 *56 + 05 + 07 + 1 + 0005 + 1
for Zone 5 + Type 24hr Audible + Part 1 + Hex zone 05 + HW is automatic and response time is 1 for
350msec... would this be correct? and which side do i put the resistor on the Protective Loop or
Closed Circuit?.. Thanks so much..

 
F

Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
0
Mark Leuck said:
Assuming this IS an SE version you missed the first step after entering zone
programming which is either the "Set to Confirm" or "Program Tool?" prompt.

I would never consider walking someone who knows very little about the panel
through zone programming WITHOUT a proper keypad


Too right!!
 
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Police22

Jan 1, 1970
0
Thanks Rory,,
It worked... yippieee.. and i used zone type 3.. cause it is a shed i want it active.. but is there
a way to make it arm even when the system is not armed.. ?.. but anyways.. thanks.. i feel better
now.. that its safer out there.. i still miss my Echo Trimmer...
Thanks again.. you all have been a pleaser to work with.. and i like reading the other posts..
thanks..
 
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