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Discussion in 'Home Power and Microgeneration' started by Leonard Abbott, Jun 8, 2008.

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  1. Your electric car of the future. WILL NOT NEED The massive batteries
    present cars now carry..

    The electric Car of the future will never require being pluged in for
    Charging, Charging will be automatic, At home, at work, or at the
    shoping mall, or visiting a friend. most places where you park your car.
    the "plug in'' and disconnect will be automatic.
     
  2. Vaughn Simon

    Vaughn Simon Guest


    Methinks that Leonard is the eternal optimist.

    Vaughn
     

  3. Well, the way things are going eternal optimism might be the only power
    source we will have left ;~)
     

  4. I think we need a change of mind set regarding electric cars, make them
    "range rated", eg my wife's work
    commute is less than five miles why would she need a car with a range of
    50 miles? If a simple lightweight
    electric vehicle could be made for such limited ranges, surely it would
    be far less expensive. There are
    electric scooters out right now for less than $2000.00 that would suit
    the purpose, but they wouldn't be
    much good for commuting in poor weather, so how hard would it be to
    produce a glorified golf cart
    for urban commutes under 10 miles?
     
  5. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Oh ! WEB TV.

    No further explanation required. Where do they find people this stupid ?

    Graham
     
  6. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Why not buy het a golf cart and be done with it ?

    Graham
     
  7. Because their use is not allowed on public roads in Ontario Canada. Part
    of the reason we don't have such vehicles is because
    of outdated legislation. They finally changed the law to allow electric
    bikes and scooters, but have blocked the use of cars like this:
    http://www.zenncars.com/
     
  8. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    LIES ! There is no such thing as a ZERO emission car.

    Until the EV industry stops LYING I will do EVERYTHING I CAN to SMACK THEM.
    They deserve nothing but contempt.

    Graham
     
  9. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Is this a joke are are you also intellectually dysfunctional ?

    Enquiring minds need to know whether you belong on a black-list.

    Graham
     
  10. The majority of Ontario's electricity is Nuclear or Hydro generated. I
    suppose now you are going to tell us how
    bad batteries are, even though the recycling industry is well
    established......
     
  11. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Local conditions do not change an outright lie.

    How much energy do they take to recycle ? Bet you can't answer that one.

    How about a total environmental impact statement for battery recycling ?

    Grahama
     

  12. Very well put John, thank you. It's the mind set "I want a range of 300
    miles and top speed of 100mph" I find
    troubling, these people are going to be in for a rude awakening very
    shortly. their next vehicle might very well
    be the bus or train if they want those capabilities ;~)
     
  13. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Nice touch noting the download size btw !

    At least they don't claim it's a ZEV ! You know how much they cost ? Around
    $80,000 IIRC.

    Well, I'm a tigger at heart really but I got de-bounced.

    I see they don't include full series PHEVs (table page 3). That makes their car
    look better than it really is. Opel's Flextreme is being quoted as 40g CO2/km
    overall for comparison which is BETTER than the Tesla (table page 4).

    Graham
     
  14. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Phew. My first modem, actually can't be sure now but was maybe 4.8kbps. HOT by the
    standards of the day.

    Graham
     
  15. Karl

    Karl Guest

    I think you can adapt a regular donor car with old fashioned batteries to
    get you 20-30 miles

    Newer batteries are coming...I hope... that could give you lots more.

    And look at the hybrids they already have adapted to become plug-in hybrids.
    THEY get 100+ mpg NOW and
    if you drive them correctly you could in theory never need gas since they
    have about 100 mile ranges on electricity in their stored packs you
    recharged at home.
     

  16. That's still much more than we need, something the size smart car but
    electric would suit us fine.
    Probably a low cost alternative would be a electrified Firefly ;~)
     
  17. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_EV

    Power: 30 kW (41 hp)
    economy 12 kWh per 100 kilometers (193 Wh/mile)
    Range 110 kilometers (62 miles)
    Recharge time (80%): four hours
    Recharge time (100%): eight hours
    Top speed: 120 km/h (74.6 mph)

    http://www.zytekgroup.co.uk/Default.aspx?tid=153

    Ah, a Suzuki Swift.

    Graham
     
  18. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Complete garbage.

    Where are the emissions free electricity wells ? Never mind the emissions
    from its manufacture (and subsequent disposal/recycling).

    Graham
     

  19. Do us all a favor, get yourself a dictionary and look up the word "
    Emissions" . As for the rest of your diatribe,
    everything made has "emissions from its manufacture" and requires
    "disposal/recycling"
     
  20. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Still doesn't make your definition correct.

    And the *ELECTRICITY* itself ?

    Graham
     
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