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Yet another new battery breakthrough

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Martin Griffith, Dec 18, 2007.

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  1. Damon Hill

    Damon Hill Guest

  2. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Yep. I smell a price tag of around $75K to $100K.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  3. I think that is low, if you take 200kW times $0.05/kWH times
    40 years(in hours).
     
  4. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    You are correct. I mistakenly used my own consumption over 40 years
    to do the calculation ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  5. Dunno, the bittorrent of the schmatics/specs haven't been leaked to
    ThePirateBay yet.
    Just hope it's better than Sony LiOn laptop batteries


    martin
     
  6. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    Not if made in China and bought at Walmart.
     
  7. James Beck

    James Beck Guest

    My nose must be MUCH more sensitive than yours. :)
    I would go AT LEAST a factor of 10 higher than that.
    Just think what the licensing and insurance will run ya'.
    Hell, for 75K you could buy one and sell power to the utility. The
    average housing development could install their own power generation
    system at those price levels. If one could be had for those prices,
    I'll bet they will sell like radioactive hot cakes.

    Jim
     
  8. Guest


    I sure hope nothing breaks or corrodes and leaks into the
    groundwater. That would be bad. MTBE from leaking gas station
    storage tanks are bad enough.

    Michael
     
  9. T

    T Guest

    Yeah, the big agri-industry pushed MBTE on us, now they're pushing
    ethanol. Too much corn if you ask me.
     
  10. On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:41:49 -0800 (PST), in sci.electronics.design
    MTBE took a couple of millisex, .....

    Wonder if end of life disposal is included in the purchase price?

    What other things to spec in the purchase order?


    martin
     
  11. MTBE was pushed by the oil refineries, since they could produce it
    cheaply from the petroleum feedstocks they already had and thus would
    not need to buy any ethanol from the agri-business boys. The original
    requirement to include ethanol to improve performance and reduce
    emissions was rewritten due to big oil lobbying (also spelled $$$$) to
    allow other oxygenating compaounds such as MTBE to be used. Besides
    both being effective oxygenators, ethanol and MTBE share another
    important characteristic: they dissolve easily in water. However, if
    the groundwater was being tainted with ehtanol, no one would be
    complaining - they'd be pumping it up and bottling it.
     
  12. Jim Yanik

    Jim Yanik Guest

    One has to remember that this is just the REACTOR,and not the heat-
    exchangers and generators necessary to convert the heat to electricity.

    They left out a lot of details.
     
  13. Jim Yanik

    Jim Yanik Guest

    wrote in
    no security,no protection against vehicles or aircraft crashing into
    it(intentionally or accidentally),no containment dome.
     
  14. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

  15. No useful data also. This thing smells like a fabrication.

    The terms in the article are also fishy. Nuclear reactors do not use
    control rods for anything other than emergency shutdown. Certainly
    not to "initiate" the chain reaction, whatever that means.

    Li6 is rare (7.5% of all Li) and expensive. It's also subject to
    spontaneous combustion in air. Lithium melts at 1300C, which I guess
    is a liquid.
    <http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/periodic/Li.html>

    Also, small nuclear reactors seem to be quite fashionable now that
    energy costs are climbing:
    <http://www.sfreporter.com/articles/publish/outtake-112107-nuke-to-the-future.php>
    <http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/>

    I wanted drop a lump of passivated hot nuclear waste into a water
    heater to help keep it warm. It won't solve the energy problem, but
    it does get rid of some waste, while heating the hot tub.
     
  16. A strange meaning for "get rid of".
     
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