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Noweldrecumbent2

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp basement. This is the
third one to replace in two years. The contacts keep getting messed up from
the moisture. Preferably something ADI sells thats dependable . Thank you in
advance
Dave
 
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Carl Carlson

Jan 1, 1970
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Noweldrecumbent2 said:
I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp basement. This is
the third one to replace in two years. The contacts keep getting
messed up from the moisture. Preferably something ADI sells thats
dependable . Thank you in advance
Dave

http://www.crowelec.com/
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp
basement. This is the third one to replace in two
years. The contacts keep getting messed up
from the moisture. Preferably something ADI
sells thats dependable . Thank you in advance

Dave,

As Jack Stevens already mentioned, Crow has
some reliable outdoor rated detectors. I've used
Crow detectors with good results in outdoor
locations. We sell a fair number of their "D&D"
model online. So far none have come needed
warranty service.

Here's a URL for detailed specs on the unit.
Prices on the site are retail. Dealer price will
be between 20% and 25% less, depending
on your volume.
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/crow_dd_4911_prd1.htm

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Noweldrecumbent2 said:
I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp basement. This is the
third one to replace in two years. The contacts keep getting messed up
from the moisture. Preferably something ADI sells thats dependable . Thank
you in advance
Dave


Genius D&D hands down.


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Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Noweldrecumbent2 said:
I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp basement. This is the
third one to replace in two years. The contacts keep getting messed up
from the moisture. Preferably something ADI sells thats dependable . Thank
you in advance
Dave

P.S. I've got government clients that buy these for some pretty harsh
environments.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob La Londe said:
Genius D&D hands down.

ADI shows 2 in North Phoenix, 3 in Tucson, and 33 of them in the Reno Hub
based on the on-line interactive inventory.
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob La Londe said:
ADI shows 2 in North Phoenix, 3 in Tucson, and 33 of them in the Reno Hub
based on the on-line interactive inventory.

Oops. Meant Crow D&D. Genius is a different motion entirely by Crow, and
yes ADI has D&Ds in stock.
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Clancy Wiggum said:
Enough already. You are the dungeon master.

Jebus.

Ha, my voltage spike inflicts 2000 damage points on your integrated alarm
system welding multiple contacts closed including the relays in your motion
sensors. You earn one experience point.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
.... Dealer price will
be between 20% and 25% less, depending
on your volume.

Your "volume" must suck.
 
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Noweldrecumbent2

Jan 1, 1970
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Thank you all for the help with this. The DSL line crashed , router called
in with a new IP address so it looks like a power failure or surge happened
right before this motion went on the fritz sending a false alarm. Could this
have any effect on this? The motion was also sticking in the activated
state, and going off on it's own when I tested it.
Dave
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Noweldrecumbent2 said:
Thank you all for the help with this. The DSL line crashed , router called
in with a new IP address so it looks like a power failure or surge
happened
right before this motion went on the fritz sending a false alarm. Could
this
have any effect on this? The motion was also sticking in the activated
state, and going off on it's own when I tested it.

Yes, an extreme power surge or lightning strike can cause a motion relay to
stick.


Dave
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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In this area there aren't many basements. I don't
understand how an intruder would gain entry. Are
the basements totally underground or are the small
windows slightly above ground level that would
allow unwanted access?

We don't have many basements in South Florida
either. If you had one it would just fill up with
alligators anyway. :^)

All kidding aside, where I worked in Connecticut
for many years almost every home and business
has a basement. Most have small casement type
windows. They're large enough for an average
adult to gain entrance.

In recent years builders have been using cheap,
snap-in windows for basements. The entire
window can be removed by pushing up on two
small spring clips. Unfortunately, the springs
are so weak that it's often possible to remove the
window from the frame by simply pushing on the
upper stile.

Because these windows are so flimsy and because
of the way they're held in place, installing standard
magnetic contact sensors can be problematic. One
alternative is to use a device from GE Security
called a BB1-GS "Barrier Bar". This is a square
vinyl shaft that looks from the outside like a burglar
bar. It is actually a poressure sensitive switch held
in place by the spring-loaded "bar." Any attempt to
dislodge the window or enter through it will pop the
bar loose, triggering the alarm.

Some companies like to use alarm screens which
can be made to precisely fit the window opening.
When using an alarm screen the window
manufacturer supplied half-screen is discarded.

Both screens and Barrier Bars have the added
advantage over magnetic contacts that they can
protect the window while it's open. In a damp
basement this can be a significant feature for
the homeowner. If you run into this situation you
might want to discuss these options with the
customer.
In any case an outdoor motion like the Bosch
OD 850 (available at ADI) might work.

Though I've used more of the Visonic, Crow and
Paradox detectors, I've sold a fair number of the
Bosch OD850 and they've been at least as good.
I have details on them at the following URL:
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/bosch_od850-f1_outdoor_detector_12150_prd1.htm

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Noweldrecumbent

Jan 1, 1970
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Basement windows above ground. Two got kicked in at our shop here. The
motion caught it before going on the fritz two weeks later
 
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Noweldrecumbent

Jan 1, 1970
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Our company is in a bad area. You would think with six IP cameras mounted
outside, and signs everywhere they would stay out. Three attempted break ins
with four months. They must think we keep gold in their :)
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Our company is in a bad area. You would think with
six IP cameras mounted outside, and signs everywhere
they would stay out. Three attempted break ins with
four months. They must think we keep gold in their :)

A few years ago in Windsor, CT, there was a series of
break-ins via basement windows. There were enough
of them that the police set up a task force to catch the
perps. It turned out to be a father-son team. Apparently
dad was either too big or not agile enough so he sent
his young, teenage son in through the window. The
boy then let his dad in and they would ransack the
place. They finally caught them.

The events caused a lot of people to start calling alarm
companies. We used to foil residential basement windows
(just the utility type windows I described earlier; not
full size, multi-pane windows). I don't recall how many
systems we sold in the area at the time. We were
always busy anyway. I do recall that the town looked
as though it was hosting an alarm convention. It seemed
as though there was an alarm company truck in every other
driveway some days.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Noweldrecumbent

Jan 1, 1970
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It's amazing what they come up with anymore. I remember when a block wall
had a hole punched in it right next to the rear door of a dairy mart account
we had they crawled on the floor to the cigarette rack, the ir tripped
inside fortunately.
Dave
 
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