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  1. I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp basement. This is the
    third one to replace in two years. The contacts keep getting messed up from
    the moisture. Preferably something ADI sells thats dependable . Thank you in
    advance
    Dave
     
  2. Carl Carlson

    Carl Carlson Guest

    http://www.crowelec.com/
    js
     
  3. I'm looking for a motion that will work in a damp
    Dave,

    As Jack Stevens already mentioned, Crow has
    some reliable outdoor rated detectors. I've used
    Crow detectors with good results in outdoor
    locations. We sell a fair number of their "D&D"
    model online. So far none have come needed
    warranty service.

    Here's a URL for detailed specs on the unit.
    Prices on the site are retail. Dealer price will
    be between 20% and 25% less, depending
    on your volume.
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/crow_dd_4911_prd1.htm

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  4. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest


    Genius D&D hands down.


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    Sincerly,
    The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
    Bob La Londe

    The Security Consultant
    Bob La Londe - Owner
    P.O. Box 5720
    Yuma, Az 85366

    (928) 782-9765 ofc
    (928) 782-7873 fax

    Licensed Contractor
    ROC103044 & ROC103047
     
  5. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest

    P.S. I've got government clients that buy these for some pretty harsh
    environments.


    --
    Sincerly,
    The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
    Bob La Londe

    The Security Consultant
    Bob La Londe - Owner
    P.O. Box 5720
    Yuma, Az 85366

    (928) 782-9765 ofc
    (928) 782-7873 fax

    Licensed Contractor
    ROC103044 & ROC103047
     
  6. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest

    ADI shows 2 in North Phoenix, 3 in Tucson, and 33 of them in the Reno Hub
    based on the on-line interactive inventory.
     
  7. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest

    Oops. Meant Crow D&D. Genius is a different motion entirely by Crow, and
    yes ADI has D&Ds in stock.
     
  8. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest

    Ha, my voltage spike inflicts 2000 damage points on your integrated alarm
    system welding multiple contacts closed including the relays in your motion
    sensors. You earn one experience point.


    --
    Sincerly,
    The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
    Bob La Londe

    The Security Consultant
    Bob La Londe - Owner
    P.O. Box 5720
    Yuma, Az 85366

    (928) 782-9765 ofc
    (928) 782-7873 fax

    Licensed Contractor
    ROC103044 & ROC103047
     
  9. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest

    Your "volume" must suck.
     
  10. Thank you all for the help with this. The DSL line crashed , router called
    in with a new IP address so it looks like a power failure or surge happened
    right before this motion went on the fritz sending a false alarm. Could this
    have any effect on this? The motion was also sticking in the activated
    state, and going off on it's own when I tested it.
    Dave
     
  11. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest

    Yes, an extreme power surge or lightning strike can cause a motion relay to
    stick.


    Dave
     
  12. In this area there aren't many basements. I don't
    We don't have many basements in South Florida
    either. If you had one it would just fill up with
    alligators anyway. :^)

    All kidding aside, where I worked in Connecticut
    for many years almost every home and business
    has a basement. Most have small casement type
    windows. They're large enough for an average
    adult to gain entrance.

    In recent years builders have been using cheap,
    snap-in windows for basements. The entire
    window can be removed by pushing up on two
    small spring clips. Unfortunately, the springs
    are so weak that it's often possible to remove the
    window from the frame by simply pushing on the
    upper stile.

    Because these windows are so flimsy and because
    of the way they're held in place, installing standard
    magnetic contact sensors can be problematic. One
    alternative is to use a device from GE Security
    called a BB1-GS "Barrier Bar". This is a square
    vinyl shaft that looks from the outside like a burglar
    bar. It is actually a poressure sensitive switch held
    in place by the spring-loaded "bar." Any attempt to
    dislodge the window or enter through it will pop the
    bar loose, triggering the alarm.

    Some companies like to use alarm screens which
    can be made to precisely fit the window opening.
    When using an alarm screen the window
    manufacturer supplied half-screen is discarded.

    Both screens and Barrier Bars have the added
    advantage over magnetic contacts that they can
    protect the window while it's open. In a damp
    basement this can be a significant feature for
    the homeowner. If you run into this situation you
    might want to discuss these options with the
    customer.
    Though I've used more of the Visonic, Crow and
    Paradox detectors, I've sold a fair number of the
    Bosch OD850 and they've been at least as good.
    I have details on them at the following URL:
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/bosch_od850-f1_outdoor_detector_12150_prd1.htm

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  13. Basement windows above ground. Two got kicked in at our shop here. The
    motion caught it before going on the fritz two weeks later
     
  14. Our company is in a bad area. You would think with six IP cameras mounted
    outside, and signs everywhere they would stay out. Three attempted break ins
    with four months. They must think we keep gold in their :)
     
  15. Our company is in a bad area. You would think with
    A few years ago in Windsor, CT, there was a series of
    break-ins via basement windows. There were enough
    of them that the police set up a task force to catch the
    perps. It turned out to be a father-son team. Apparently
    dad was either too big or not agile enough so he sent
    his young, teenage son in through the window. The
    boy then let his dad in and they would ransack the
    place. They finally caught them.

    The events caused a lot of people to start calling alarm
    companies. We used to foil residential basement windows
    (just the utility type windows I described earlier; not
    full size, multi-pane windows). I don't recall how many
    systems we sold in the area at the time. We were
    always busy anyway. I do recall that the town looked
    as though it was hosting an alarm convention. It seemed
    as though there was an alarm company truck in every other
    driveway some days.

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    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    =============================>
    Bass Home Electronics
    941-925-8650
    4883 Fallcrest Circle
    Sarasota · Florida · 34233
    http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
    =============================>
     
  16. It's amazing what they come up with anymore. I remember when a block wall
    had a hole punched in it right next to the rear door of a dairy mart account
    we had they crawled on the floor to the cigarette rack, the ir tripped
    inside fortunately.
    Dave
     
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