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tnx. you saved me a lot of time.Here's Qualcomm's statement on the Aureate issue:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2220hq.html
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
mike
tnx. you saved me a lot of time.Here's Qualcomm's statement on the Aureate issue:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2220hq.html
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
another thing that works (as long as they don't built decoders into theJim-T@golana- said:On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:53:20 -0700, Jim Thompson
[snip]Although I suppose I could get listed in someone's Outhouse address
book... it's not likely... I have no friends ;-)
...Jim Thompson
Got an addie? J/K
[snip]
- YD.
That's why I stopped using a valid E-mail address on the news groups,
plus my SIG refers you to the website... where the E-mail address is
an *image* thus not harvestable.
...Jim Thompson
chatting with Colin Bloch said:Sendmail is an MTA & whatever security issues its had in the past have had
nothing to do with the spread of worms.
No its not.
No they shouldn't. It spreads through Kazaa, Email, mapped drives, IRC
and yes, will randomly post to newsgroups on your configured news server...
However there is no "targeting" nor any group at risk more than any other.
On the face of it, Challenge/Response sounds marvelous. Then you realize
it will sink the Internet with the traffic density going up astronomically.
I think blacklisting ala SpamCop/SPEWS will ultimately settle the problem.
not to mention - at least as far as Linux is concerned - the kernel teamWindows defaults to least-secure settings when installed. Why?
Apple/UNIX/Linux/VMS/Solaris security lapses are measured in bugs per
year, and often clock in at zero. Windows bugs run several per week.
John
Keith R. Williams said:[...] as long as the world runs on M$
trash, we're going to have these problems.
We'll have these problems for longer than that. Indeed, we'll have these
problems for as long as email does more than convey plain text and the
Internet supports sending of nonsecure messages. May I remind folks that
MSFT didn't invent the bug, and that the first worms were not on Windows?
Virus writers target whatever platform is dominant and powerful enough to
propagate the virus. *All* nontrivial platforms have bugs that can be
exploited given enough interest.
Certainly worms have been around since the beginning of computers
(even before email). However OE makes the propagation totally
transparent. YOY does anyone make attachment auto-execute even a
possibility, much less the default?
Tony said:Swen's size is within 147000 to 161000 bytes.
Are you able to reject on size range?
and said:Not automatically.
Sort the mails by size and tick.
BTW, fitering for the subject should be sufficient.
Rene
Terry said:Rene Tschaggelar threw some tea leaves on the floor
I saw a list of the name variations the viruses generates and its
pretty big, I do not think that filtering on subject will do the job.
I've received only three so far:
SUBJECT: Last Network Critical Patch
SUBJECT: Newest Microsoft Security Update
SUBJECT: Latest Internet Security Pack
However all three contained "September 2003, Cumulative Patch" in the
body, so perhaps that's the key ?
I have received almost 700 copies of worm or virus mail to this
account in the past 24 hours.
This has been the GIBE virus, the new "returned mail" item.
Anyone else?
Keith R. Williams said:[...] as long as the world runs on M$
trash, we're going to have these problems.
We'll have these problems for longer than that. Indeed, we'll have these
problems for as long as email does more than convey plain text and the
Internet supports sending of nonsecure messages. May I remind folks that
MSFT didn't invent the bug, and that the first worms were not on Windows?
Virus writers target whatever platform is dominant and powerful enough to
propagate the virus. *All* nontrivial platforms have bugs that can be
exploited given enough interest.
Except that Windows is crap through and through.
Windows defaults to least-secure settings when installed. Why?
Apple/UNIX/Linux/VMS/Solaris security lapses are measured in bugs per
year, and often clock in at zero. Windows bugs run several per week.
too bad the free Eudora is spyware. not sure about the not free one, if
there is such a thing.
In said:quoting Jim Thompson
Can you point to a web-site where that argument is being made, in
some detail? As far as I know (and can see) various such handshake
Rene Tschaggelar said:Not automatically.
Sort the mails by size and tick.
BTW, fitering for the subject should be sufficient.
Rene
and said:In sci.electronics.design, John Larkin
[...] as long as the world runs on M$
trash, we're going to have these problems.
We'll have these problems for longer than that. Indeed, we'll have these
problems for as long as email does more than convey plain text and the
Internet supports sending of nonsecure messages. May I remind folks that
MSFT didn't invent the bug, and that the first worms were not on Windows?
Virus writers target whatever platform is dominant and powerful enough to
propagate the virus. *All* nontrivial platforms have bugs that can be
exploited given enough interest.
Except that Windows is crap through and through.
IMHO, you're underestimating the problem. :-(
Hahahah!
Windows defaults to least-secure settings when installed. Why?
I was told it defaults to "most feature-laden" but then that was a
MS marketing person talking...
Interesting.
Apple/UNIX/Linux/VMS/Solaris security lapses are measured in bugs per
year, and often clock in at zero. Windows bugs run several per week.
That's not really a fair comparison. If all OS'es had the same
market penetration, then it would be a fair comparison.
Ben said:In sci.electronics.design, [email protected] (Aubrey McIntosh)
wrote:
People are talking about obscene volumes, thousands per day, but
I'm "only" getting a few dozen a day.
Dusty said:Ben Bradley wrote:
I haven't seen so much as single one, at least not the MS scam version. Only
very rarely do I see others. I figured it was due to effective counter
measures at Texas.net, but I'm not seeing it on any of my other accounts,
either. Ah, the benefits of living right, I suppose.
Mark said:It's likely because you munged your reply address
(included "THISPART") right off the bat. When the harvesters
go through the newsgroups and adds yours to their list, it
doesn't work so you get no reflections.
I just wish I'd munged mine earlier. Sigh.
Not said:I'm getting about 100 per day on my regular email address that has
never been used on usenet. They may be harvesting from other locations
as well, as I have use my regular email on bulletin boards. my usenet
address is getting hammered as well, but I expect that all the time in
any case.
It does appear to be aimed at Usenet users. Not only are regular users
seeing higher volumes of the worm via e-mail than others, it's now being
posted to many groups, which strikes me as particularly stupid. If one knows
enough to mung one's return addy, it is very likely one also knows better
than to download and run some alleged MS patch posted to Usenet by random
idiots.